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So it's a software issue? Because those aforementioned devices never got smoothened out, even after software updates.

Could be at different levels in the pipeline, without knowing what HiDPI entails (converting from a 1:1 point/pixel to a 1:4 point/pixel system) as far as algorithms goes and what impacts it has had on Apple's Quartz model, we can only speculate. Something that is sure, it's not the actual GPU itself, since those have been capable of these pixel fill rates from a while, and obviously, 30" ACDs were running off these IGPs 4 years ago with the introduction of the mini Display Port, finally enabling higher than 1920x1200 resolution for external monitors.
 
Could be at different levels in the pipeline, without knowing what HiDPI entails (converting from a 1:1 point/pixel to a 1:4 point/pixel system) as far as algorithms goes and what impacts it has had on Apple's Quartz model, we can only speculate. Something that is sure, it's not the actual GPU itself, since those have been capable of these pixel fill rates from a while, and obviously, 30" ACDs were running off these IGPs 4 years ago with the introduction of the mini Display Port, finally enabling higher than 1920x1200 resolution for external monitors.

That's mostly cryptic to me, but it sounds like we need to make our software more efficient.
 
Its been an exciting year hasn't it? I wonder if Tim Cook will say that on stage..

Very interested to see what the 13incher will have in store..
 
I sincerely don't care anymore if the HD 4000 can power the 15" display efficiently + 2 more daisy chained Thunderbolt displays. The thing is that it CAN'T do so right now, and that's what matters. The 15" can rely on the discrete to handle the job, but a 13" without a discrete will be royally ****ed. And how can this new 13" retina pro be even called pro anymore if it does not have a discrete gpu. Apple really needs to step up their game and provide what the pro users want, and not what consumer with money want. Be it for video editing or gaming. It should have the same base as the 15" just less of it, not a component taken out completely.

Give us a discrete gpu Apple!
 
no discrete graphics chip means this thing should have a good price. im predicting $1500 and a exclusive all black unibody.
 
Apple busted the OpenGL driver in Mountain Lion, that is why a lot of games run like crap. It is also one of the reasons there is lag on the rMPB.
 
How much of an impact with the HD4000 have on me?

I will not use the machine for gaming.
I will use it occasionally for photoshop/illustrator/xcode for app programming.
I will use it regularly for analyzing large data sets in Stata, R, and Excel.
I will use it all the time for web surfing and microsoft office.

I usually have 9 desktops with R, Stata, Excel, Word, Preview, Acrobat, Chrome, and Safari with 20-30 tabs running simultaneously.

Any other questions/thoughts about 13" rMBP specs I should go for? I am definitely buying this thing barring a big issue.
 
but with only one contact pad indicating that it will not include a discrete graphics chip.

WTF :( They could have easily put a discrete GPU there with all the space saved by removing the optical drive.

So basically it is 15" or bust. How extremely disappointing!

We are now back to laggy UIs because Apple is cheapening out on the GPUs. Wow! This would be useless to anyone who does more than browse the web.

And all of you here justifying Apple not putting a GPU! I'd personally go with a low TDP CPU + discrete GPU. What was OpenCL designed for if Apple is skimping on GPUs now?

How can a $1500 Pro machine have integrated graphics?
 
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The GPU does not struggle. Really folks, we've been pushing higher pixel numbers for years through sheer multi-pass rendering of lower resolutions. It's something else in the graphics stack.

Maybe it doesn't struggle for you. But there are plenty of others who have commented otherwise. These are people who have been working with Apple products, reviewing and commenting on them professionally for a decade. I think I'll trust their opinions, and my own experiences, than sweeping statements made on here.
 
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If integrated then no purchase. I would go with the early 2013 updated 15 rMBP.

Also how exactly do we get so much info on the stuff before it's released. Is it really THAT hard to keep a secret?
 
But will it come with Image Retention? Cause I really can't live without seeing a ghost of every app for 5 minutes after it stays two minutes on screen.
 
It's no different than driving the 27" Thunderbolt display, as the resolution of 2560x1600 is the max the hardware scalar can do before you have to involve slower software algorithms to deal with anything higher.

Yes it is, because on the retina displays they actually render a much higher res than the screen supports and scale it down. It's why the scaled graphics (1920x1200 for ex on the 15 rMBP) looks good, but it's also is very graphics intensive to do

Why? Apple has been taking more and more control over the design of their chips. Look at the A6, it has incredible graphics processing capabilities. Would it be a stretch to think that they can't build really powerful integrated graphics into their laptops now? Eventually, we'll see Apple-designed processors powering our laptops and the rest of the computer industry won't be able to match the capabilities of a Mac :dreaming:.

Apple isn't likely to be designing x86 chips, so yes, it's quite a strecth
 
Is this suppose to be clever marketing so people think design = life? I could care less how they "design" the battery... I want it to last... A long time.
 
From the other thread:

My predictions based on the existing 15" retina vs. non-retina and "aggressive" Apple pricing rumors:

8GB RAM 128GB SSD, i5 = $1299
256GB SSD: +$299
i7: +$99
16GB RAM: +$199

Quad core and dedicated graphics are exclusive to 15".
 
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