Sounds about right given that the most comparable laptop - Sony Vaio Z - starts at $1600 with i5 and 128GB SSD. Or maybe Apple'll be more aggressive by matching Vaio Z's price?
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Sounds about right given that the most comparable laptop - Sony Vaio Z - starts at $1600 with i5 and 128GB SSD. Or maybe Apple'll be more aggressive by matching Vaio Z's price?
I have personally bought a new MBP 13 inch and I wouldn't see myself being pissed at a refresh in September/October, simply because I would definitely expect 1600$ for it which I definitely wouldn't pay for a 13 inch laptop, soldered RAM, performance probably wouldn't be that great for gaming (yes, I do enjoy World of Warcraft and Diablo 3 on my MBP and they run fine) and the fact that I can have 2 hard drives in my MBP while only one in a rMBP makes a big difference for me considering I don't have to bring an external HDD with me.
I think retina is awesome, and seeing the 15 inch model in store definitely blew me away, however, until performance becomes acceptable for integrated graphics with that kind of resolution, I wouldn't be surprised if it easily takes another year or 2, and I definitely will be getting at least 4 years out of my laptop, and at that point when I'll upgrade to a retina model I think it will be cheaper as they will probably phase out the older Macbook Pros, but I also think at that point graphics performance will be adequate. I have seen the 15 inch rMBP run on integrated and performance is definitely lackluster.
I think retina is awesome, and seeing the 15 inch model in store definitely blew me away, however, until performance becomes acceptable for integrated graphics with that kind of resolution, I wouldn't be surprised if it easily takes another year or 2, and I definitely will be getting at least 4 years out of my laptop, and at that point when I'll upgrade to a retina model I think it will be cheaper as they will probably phase out the older Macbook Pros, but I also think at that point graphics performance will be adequate. I have seen the 15 inch rMBP run on integrated and performance is definitely lackluster.
Sony make a 13.3" laptop which is thinner and lighter than the current Pro.
It has a 1600x900 resolution monitor. A hybrid graphics system with 2GB dedicated Nvidia Kepler graphics to complement the intel HD 4000 chipset. It also has a slot loading Blu Ray drive and user serviceable RAM, HDD and battery.
For this reason I believe Apple is treading water a bit with the current Pro. With the removal of the optical drive, even with a thinner form factor, there should still be room for hybrid graphics system.
Sony's miniaturisation expertise might be a bit ahead of Apple, but it won't be that far ahead.
I believe if the retina MacBook Pro does represent the rethinking of the MacBook Pro then it will include discrete GPU. If it doesn't, then it ought to.
It has a 1600x900 resolution monitor. A hybrid graphics system with 2GB dedicated Nvidia Kepler graphics to complement the intel HD 4000 chipset. It also has a slot loading Blu Ray drive and user serviceable RAM, HDD and battery.
For this reason I believe Apple is treading water a bit with the current Pro. With the removal of the optical drive, even with a thinner form factor, there should still be room for hybrid graphics system.
Sony's miniaturisation expertise might be a bit ahead of Apple, but it won't be that far ahead.
I believe if the retina MacBook Pro does represent the rethinking of the MacBook Pro then it will include discrete GPU. If it doesn't, then it ought to.
you mean the chop chop 4000? the ultimate cutting board, chop, chop, chop...chop chop.
Instead of apple buying, implicitly via foxconn, sharp, to make that effing tv, they should have just bought amd to bring these great apu's to market. Sadly apple is just an assembler of components these days...
Software limitation
Here I thought that the 4GB was because of a 32 bit software limitation. Wouldn't the 64 bit system address the other 4 GB? I'm just asking?
Here I thought that the 4GB was because of a 32 bit software limitation. Wouldn't the 64 bit system address the other 4 GB? I'm just asking?
Guessing that the retina Thunderbolt Display will have a MagSafe 2, we would need a MagSafe 2 to MagSafe (1) Connector
(Or they will stuck with a MagSafe (1) at the Display and keep on adding the current converter)
I hope option #2 will be chosen... An angled Power Supply makes more sense while working at a desk!
Yes you are correct about 32 vs 64 bit but OSX is 64bit (has been for years) so it would make you think it's just configured with 4 (which would suck) but is not unheard of as the base 13" has only 4GB.
Just bought a new MBP 13" and I won't be pissed at all if they come out with a retina MBP 13 in the next month or two I knew what I was getting into when I bought my current laptop. $1600 is more than I'd be willing to pay for a 13" laptop, and retina really isn't all that important to me because my current screen looks fantastic. Besides, I'd rather buy a polished product with all its bugs worked out than the first revision of a completely new product, which will inevitably have some bugs. The only thing bugging me is the 1280 x 800 resolution of the 13", which is really small IMO
I knew what I was getting into when I bought my current laptop. $1600 is more than I'd be willing to pay for a 13" laptop, and retina really isn't all that important to me because my current screen looks fantastic. Besides, I'd rather buy a polished product with all its bugs worked out than the first revision of a completely new product, which will inevitably have some bugs. The only thing bugging me is the 1280 x 800 resolution of the 13", which is really small IMO 
This is great! Hopefully an iMac/13 rMBP release coming soon! I'm guessing this will be about $1499-1799. Somewhere in that range.
I personally love my 13 inch. Super portable, I can hook it up to an external monitor and then grab and go if I want too. Not as heavy, fits easily into a backpack or other bag. Plenty fast for my needs. If I need a big screen there's the big monitor/iMac that i can use. I had a 15" previously and going to 13" I thought the same thing.....how the hell can I do this.....I adapted and found I liked it better.
I wondered if I would like this setup but am concerned about using the mb with and external monitor. Do you not find that the mb's display is sorta in the way of the external display?
Maybe if i got an external keyboard to plug into the mb and set it well away from the external monitor....?
What are you going to do tomorrow when the "Retina 13" delayed until January" rumour appears?
I want a beautiful screen, and I want good battery life. Graphics performance to me is very secondary, while CPU performance is quite important. Everyone has different priorities. As long as supply of Retina displays is limited, Apple can build a Retina computer that appeals to a limited audience (because the limited audience still buys every Retina display they can get).
"Pro" means people use it professionally, to make money. I don't need a fast GPU to make money.
On the other hand, a 1280 x 800 Retina MBP would be able to display 1706 x 1066 in a mode equivalent to the 1920 x 1200 mode on the current Retina MBP, and I would find that very, very useful. Much more beneficial for a Pro than the GPU.
Compare the price of the 15" MBP and the Retina MBP - once you picked the same CPU, the same RAM, and the same SSD drive. The Retina MBP is actually considerably cheaper. With a 13" MBP, Apple could use the same case, 2.9GHz i7, 8 GB Ram, 750 GB hard drive, optical drive removed and the space used for more battery, for $1499. Display 1280 x 800 Retina, with optional 1492 x 933 and 1706 x 1066 mode.
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BRING IT ON!!
I would like a 13 retina! Maybe even in matte finish!
yes.... i will for sure get he 13 inch retina MBP in 2 years time.. when my current MBP 13 is obsolete
There are going to be a lot of pissed off people that just bought the 13" MBP
And this makes you happy?