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13" Mbp Only 1.5gb Sata ? - SOLVED!!!!!!!!!
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This thread has become really ridiculous. Anyone who claims that this is nothing to "whine" about, obviously didn't just buy one. Everyone in this thread who just bought one, is - and rightfully so - pissed off. I don't understand why people unaffected about this downgrade, come in here and share their opinion about why it's not a big deal. People have the right to be pissed off. If you can't see that then you should probably stay out of this thread.
In the poll I see many unibody macs with 3.0, but is here at at least someone with an 13 inch MacBook Pro with a SATA 3.0GBit controller?
Kudos on this. I am so tired of the elite posting on here when someone asks a perceived redundant question. The links to the ************************** SITE are stupid. If there is another discussion, just post a link and move along.
There are those of us who can afford expensive SSD and RAID them, SATA I limit would be a bottleneck.
What I find interesting, is that 140 people voted "Positive" on the story on the front page. Seriously? I mean, I get someone thinking it's no big deal and not being bothered by it... but who are these 140 people who think moving backwards from 3.0 to 1.5 is actually a "Positive" move?
They're called trolls... the same dummies that said they have a 3.0 controller in the poll.
Guys, the new 17 inch macbook pros still have the 3 Gb interface. That's why some are responding with 3.0.
which is what i wanted...to know how many people this effect's, makes great data.
i can safely say, that 75% of people who bought a new macbook pro from apple bought macbooks with 1.5gb sata connectors, i dont know for sure what notebooks have what connectors, neither do i care.
i just wanted the data.
This is a question which will solve the problem for many people: Let's say I have a SATA II 3.0GBits HDD and I use it in a MacBook 13 inch unibody with Sata II and afterwards in a MacBook Pro 13 inch unibody with Sata I connector, will there be a difference?
If yes, which one?
If yes, which one?
So people are not entitled to their own opinion/feelings about this change? Believe it or not, not all customers are "pissed off" about this. Some do not really give a rat's ass and that is their right...just as much as it is your right to be pissed off. It is their right to feel either way and one or the other should not be discouraged from sharing their viewpoint on the situation.
I am one of those people that recently purchased the new 13" MBP with 1.5Gb and I could really care less. However, if the thread was initiated as some sort of petition or flag to Apple about the "problem" then I could see how those who feel indifferent should be refrained from posting..this thread is still more of a discussion on the "issue" though as none of us have official statements from Apple to make any solid conclusions off of.
I understand where you're coming from, but by now I think it's pretty safe to say that 100% of everyone who bought early 2009 17" has 3.0 and 100% who bought mid 2009 13" and 15" have 1.5. I have heard rumors of the contrary, but no substantial evidence.
My comment wasn't aimed towards people who felt indifferent about it the issue.
Yes, there will always be those that just care to have an apple on the computer, not what's in it. Kudos to you for saying that. Me, i care what I spend my money on.
I think you missed my point. I was just responding to a comment that seemed to try to convince people that don't really care to care and all I am saying is that is just as futile as getting people that do care to care less.
I care what I spent my money on as well and I am enjoying what I spent my money on. Is it kind of lame what Apple did? Sure. However, it is not something I plan on losing sleep over. I wish the current main problem in my life was the downgraded controller on my SATA HDD...
With that attitude they will get a backlash. Apple dropped the ball on this one.
Hi, I just thought some of you might find the post I wrote for the corsair forums interesting since it is related to the 1.5 gbps SATA issue, so I copied it below:
I installed the P256 SSD on my brand new MBP 13" 2.53 Ghz on Friday 06/12/2009.
First I booted on the stock 250gb HDD to and downloaded all updates, in case I have to return the notebook, so I can just install the factory drive in perfect condition.
After, I replaced the stock HDD with the P256 SSD; it is fairly simple to do the install if you have some technical skills. I am a dentist, so you don't need to be an engineer to do the swap...
Anyway, did a fresh install after the swap and downloaded all updates and installed all my software. Everything went without any issues.
Once the machine was setup and updated, I tried running it side by side with the MBA Rev. A 1.8 Ghz 64gb SSD it replaces and boy was I in for a sweet surprise... IT IS FAST, VERY VERY FAST... And I was happy like a kid on Christmas morning!!!
Yesterday I found out about the 1.5 Gbps SATA restriction and was obviously bummed about it, ran X Bench and the results are 135 MB/s Read - 95 MB/s Write which are less than spectacular for this drive, although it is not a problem with the drive itself, but the motherboard... FYI my workstation runs the same P256 at 210 MB/s Read - 190 MB/s Write benched from the drive itself which is not ideal.
Now for my opinion, and I apologize in advance if I offend anyone or if I say something technically incorrect. I currently have three P256 SSD's, two of them power my workstation and my wife's workstation which are identical machines: core i7 920, 12gb DDR3 RAM, NVIDIA QUADRO FX 3800 GPU's, dual 30" monitors, running 64bit Windows 7 RC. The third P256 is on my MBP 13" as mentioned before. Obviously all three machines are extremely fast. The workstations are faster when it comes down to very resource hungry applications like AutoCAD and 3DS Max, but they have $900 graphics cards and where built for that kind of work and are full size workstations comparable to the new MacPro Tower, albeit running windows because of software compatibility.
As far as regular activity (Word, Excel, file copying, downloading, copying within the network) I can not tell the difference between the $5000 workstations and the $1399 MBP 13" with the P256 SSD except when I copy large files from one workstation to the other which is a bit faster; however the workstations are wired while the MBP is wireless into the same network.
The last thing I did was install the stock HDD back into the MBP and try it around, and I can honestly say, you can feel the difference without the SSD; so I happily installed the P256 SSD back into the MBP 13" and typed this post. I would have to test a machine like my MBP 13" with a 3.0 Gbps interface to see if there is a noticeable difference, otherwise I would just be speculating. The point is the MBP 13" with the very fast Corsair P256 SSD is very fast for everything I have thrown at it, although I guess it could be faster if it had a 3.0 Gbps enabled SATA port to connect to...
Hopefully the 1.5 Gbps issue is firmware correctable by Apple and not hardware related. Personally I do believe labeling this machine a Pro without a 3 Gbps interface is unfair specially when the previous non-pro model had a 3 Gbps interface, but at the end of the day I will still be reading replies to this post from a machine that I personally think is spectacular!!!
Maybe Apple will give us a surprise update and make this machines beyond spectacular and into the realm of perfect by magically enabling 3.0 Gbps through an update thus rewarding those of us who are earlier adopters and spent considerable amounts of money on their products...
Just my two cents...
P.S. I will probably get flamed for this, but I see a lot of people arguing over technical issues and the fact that some may care about the 1.5 Gbps cap and others would never notice, etc..
I though we where all here because we care and want to find solution? Shouldn't we unite and confront Apple instead of fighting each other?
I installed the P256 SSD on my brand new MBP 13" 2.53 Ghz on Friday 06/12/2009.
First I booted on the stock 250gb HDD to and downloaded all updates, in case I have to return the notebook, so I can just install the factory drive in perfect condition.
After, I replaced the stock HDD with the P256 SSD; it is fairly simple to do the install if you have some technical skills. I am a dentist, so you don't need to be an engineer to do the swap...
Anyway, did a fresh install after the swap and downloaded all updates and installed all my software. Everything went without any issues.
Once the machine was setup and updated, I tried running it side by side with the MBA Rev. A 1.8 Ghz 64gb SSD it replaces and boy was I in for a sweet surprise... IT IS FAST, VERY VERY FAST... And I was happy like a kid on Christmas morning!!!
Yesterday I found out about the 1.5 Gbps SATA restriction and was obviously bummed about it, ran X Bench and the results are 135 MB/s Read - 95 MB/s Write which are less than spectacular for this drive, although it is not a problem with the drive itself, but the motherboard... FYI my workstation runs the same P256 at 210 MB/s Read - 190 MB/s Write benched from the drive itself which is not ideal.
Now for my opinion, and I apologize in advance if I offend anyone or if I say something technically incorrect. I currently have three P256 SSD's, two of them power my workstation and my wife's workstation which are identical machines: core i7 920, 12gb DDR3 RAM, NVIDIA QUADRO FX 3800 GPU's, dual 30" monitors, running 64bit Windows 7 RC. The third P256 is on my MBP 13" as mentioned before. Obviously all three machines are extremely fast. The workstations are faster when it comes down to very resource hungry applications like AutoCAD and 3DS Max, but they have $900 graphics cards and where built for that kind of work and are full size workstations comparable to the new MacPro Tower, albeit running windows because of software compatibility.
As far as regular activity (Word, Excel, file copying, downloading, copying within the network) I can not tell the difference between the $5000 workstations and the $1399 MBP 13" with the P256 SSD except when I copy large files from one workstation to the other which is a bit faster; however the workstations are wired while the MBP is wireless into the same network.
The last thing I did was install the stock HDD back into the MBP and try it around, and I can honestly say, you can feel the difference without the SSD; so I happily installed the P256 SSD back into the MBP 13" and typed this post. I would have to test a machine like my MBP 13" with a 3.0 Gbps interface to see if there is a noticeable difference, otherwise I would just be speculating. The point is the MBP 13" with the very fast Corsair P256 SSD is very fast for everything I have thrown at it, although I guess it could be faster if it had a 3.0 Gbps enabled SATA port to connect to...
Hopefully the 1.5 Gbps issue is firmware correctable by Apple and not hardware related. Personally I do believe labeling this machine a Pro without a 3 Gbps interface is unfair specially when the previous non-pro model had a 3 Gbps interface, but at the end of the day I will still be reading replies to this post from a machine that I personally think is spectacular!!!
Maybe Apple will give us a surprise update and make this machines beyond spectacular and into the realm of perfect by magically enabling 3.0 Gbps through an update thus rewarding those of us who are earlier adopters and spent considerable amounts of money on their products...
Just my two cents...
P.S. I will probably get flamed for this, but I see a lot of people arguing over technical issues and the fact that some may care about the 1.5 Gbps cap and others would never notice, etc..
I though we where all here because we care and want to find solution? Shouldn't we unite and confront Apple instead of fighting each other?
the question persists, does anyone know what 500gb hdd drive does apple use in the online store?