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13" Mbp Only 1.5gb Sata ? - SOLVED!!!!!!!!!
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I prefer this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA
SATA II misnomer
Popular usage may refer to the SATA 3 Gbit/s specification as Serial ATA II (SATA II or SATA2), contrary to the wishes of the Serial ATA International Organization (SATA-IO) which defines the standard. SATA II was originally the name of a committee defining updated SATA standards, of which the 3 Gbit/s standard was just one. However since it was among the most prominent features defined by the former SATA II committee, and, more critically, the term "II" is commonly used for successors, the name SATA II became synonymous with the 3 Gbit/s standard, so the group has since changed names to the Serial ATA International Organization, or SATA-IO, to avoid further confusion.
already covered....
were not worried about hdd's were worried about ssd speeds...which will destroy 100mbs
I was just airing my view. To be honest if they were going to do such a thing which would be 'bad business practice', a Microsoft type PR move, then maybe it wouldn't be in the beta.
Why on earth would they downgrade the hardware or limit the hardware, it just seems silly especially when they are pushing SSD'S!
Hope they don't do some kind of 'certified' Apple Sata 2 SSD support where you have to buy the SSD'S from apple to get the SATA 2.
Look over here then - I bought a uMBP13" and I can't even get through a Leopard install on my OCZ Vertex SSD which runs beautifully on my old uMB.
An install through a USB-dock works flawlessly ..but it beachballs horribly when connected to the onboard SATA.
That's a little more than perception for ya..
Best wishes to you, when you receive your SSD..
Exactly, non-SSD drives and those not wanting to upgrade will notice no difference and this really won't affect them. However, with the industry making a gradual move to SSD, it will become more important for those wanting to upgrade after-the-fact.
I can't believe there has been no word from Apple yet.
Look over here then - I bought a uMBP13" and I can't even get through a Leopard install on my OCZ Vertex SSD which runs beautifully on my old uMB.
An install through a USB-dock works flawlessly ..but it beachballs horribly when connected to the onboard SATA.
That's a little more than perception for ya..
Best wishes to you, when you receive your SSD..
*insert whip cracking sound here*
Here is my original post:
And your irrelevant responses:
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You still haven't answered my question.
And in answer to the responses, I have an Intel SSD coming in today for the new MacBook Pro 13", and will be testing it for day-to-day use. Absolutely, I will upgrade. Did you file a bug report? What do you folks have for equipment? Do you have this setup?
DOES IT AFFECT YOU?
Practically no one has answered my question, save for one:
THANKS!
And your irrelevant responses:
1.
2.
You still haven't answered my question.
And in answer to the responses, I have an Intel SSD coming in today for the new MacBook Pro 13", and will be testing it for day-to-day use. Absolutely, I will upgrade. Did you file a bug report? What do you folks have for equipment? Do you have this setup?
DOES IT AFFECT YOU?
Practically no one has answered my question, save for one:
THANKS!
I hate to repeat myself, but shouldn't we try to find a solution and pressure Apple as group instead of having a go at each other (trolls excluded)?
The fact is that whether you feel the difference or not; whether it applies to you or not; we are all speculating at this point since there is no official answer from Apple...
I believe and correct me if i am wrong, we at least deserve an explanation and hopefully a solution to this issue from the company that built these notebook and sold them to us...
And until that happens we should try to collect as much info as possible, not fight each other....
The fact is that whether you feel the difference or not; whether it applies to you or not; we are all speculating at this point since there is no official answer from Apple...
I believe and correct me if i am wrong, we at least deserve an explanation and hopefully a solution to this issue from the company that built these notebook and sold them to us...
And until that happens we should try to collect as much info as possible, not fight each other....
I don't get the point of your replies. You seem to be one of those criticizing those who are upset by the issue.
You have an Intel X25M coming? Will it affect you? Yes. How much? Well it depends on what you do, for example compiling source code if the project is big enough you will see a slow down. How much? Depends but it could be around 25%. If you are routinely reading and writing large files you will see a slow down. Does it matter? Depends on your expectation but after spending $600 on the drive and having it work fine in the previous model, yes it matters to me and I'm not very happy about it.
For those not affected by this or don't care that's fine. But I don't understand this "you have no right to complain" attitude. I would understand if it was a spec that was understood, like no removable battery or no expresscard slot. Those are readily visible. But who would have expected the SATA bus to be reduced in speed for no apparent reason.
Here's your answer. Because what is the point of even buying a SSD when the performance is just BARELY increased over a mechanical HD. Why spend $200-500 for no increase? Even when you buy it from Apple? That's what this is about, paying for an (already) overpriced option (courtesy of Apple), for no gain. This is Apple's fault and responsibility. That said, the post you quoted was talking about transferring or downloading off of a network? Well that's going to be limited by the network speed most likely.
I'm still waiting to hear back from apple, but of note the contact that asked in an email for my number is from apple Canada. Just thought it was weird that an email to steve jobs would end up at executive relations in Apple Canada. But In my email my sig does say canada.
I guess it's because of the same philosophy of crippling hardware that leads to the removal of firewire & expresscard ports, no HDMI, no multi card readers, no BD, no matte screens, low rez 15" screens, last generation video cards, no options for "Pro" video cards, only one up to date ACD, low rez iSight and on and on.
The thing that's so infuriating, is that it doesn't have to be that way, yet Apple consistently chooses to hobble their own computers in this absurd and aggravating fashion.
Why do they do this ?
I totally agree with you. I already send a feedback to Apple from their support page since the first day I found this issue. I also make a call to apple technical support. He said he will report to his supervisor for this situation. I don't know what else I can do?
Maybe we should send an email to every VP in Apple? until they give us an answer.
I would just like to say thanks to everyone that reported this.
You guys just saved me 1500 of my hard earned cash.
It was either the new MPB or the upcoming Tosh U500. I think i'll stick with the Tosh.
Tks again.
You guys just saved me 1500 of my hard earned cash.
It was either the new MPB or the upcoming Tosh U500. I think i'll stick with the Tosh.
Tks again.
I'm as pissed off as one could be about this, I work a lot with large PSD files - but passing up on a MBP for a Windows machine for this - bad move.
Look over here then - I bought a uMBP13" and I can't even get through a Leopard install on my OCZ Vertex SSD which runs beautifully on my old uMB.
An install through a USB-dock works flawlessly ..but it beachballs horribly when connected to the onboard SATA.
That's a little more than perception for ya..
Best wishes to you, when you receive your SSD..
I wonder if they are making it more difficult now for buyers to upgrade their SSD's on their own..