13" Mbp Only 1.5gb Sata ? - SOLVED!!!!!!!!!

[zsnow]

I just send a email to Philip Schiller (schiller@apple.com)and cc to Steve Jobs.
Hope they could give us an answer if this is fixable and when.

 

[bugout]

Source: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/721155/

hopefully we could get 10 or 15 more people to post that here

 

[bcaslis]

You're saying this about a company that released an iTunes installer that would nuke any external drive connected to the machine.

Think about it. Apple releases stuff with bugs all the time. That's why there are firmware updates in the first place.

Yes, I know exactly what I'm saying. There's a huge difference between a software bug for a certain combination and a hardware spec that requires multiple pieces to play together. There's absolutely no way this could be missed in the design and testing of hardware.

 

[Icaras]

Hardmac follows up on SATA issue

Reported through 9to5mac.com:

New MacBook Pro Limited 1.5 Gbits/s SATA Bus: Follow-up

They have concluded that this is probably a hardware issue and non-fixable, but 9to5mac is still remains hopeful that this is correctable via a firmware since just about everyone has confirmed the chipset is SATA 3.0 to begin with.

Oh the confusion. Just out with it Apple. This is getting too much

 

[errol]

Reported through 9to5mac.com:

New MacBook Pro Limited 1.5 Gbits/s SATA Bus: Follow-up

They have concluded that this is probably a hardware issue and non-fixable, but 9to5mac is still remains hopeful that this is correctable via a firmware since just about everyone has confirmed the chipset is SATA 3.0 to begin with.

Oh the confusion. Just out with it Apple. This is getting too much

I read their conclusion a bit differently. I held high hopes on this part:

So, in summary, it seems that it is a hardware issue/choice, and we are particularly disappointed as the recently launched MBPs were really looking as an accomplished and well balanced notebook family. We really expect that Apple will quickly correct this bug with a firmware update, if this is possible or not the result of a hardware design.

 

[glitch44]

New MacBook Pro Limited 1.5 Gbits/s SATA Bus: Follow-up

They have concluded that this is probably a hardware issue and non-fixable

How do you get non-fixable from this: "We really expect that Apple will quickly correct this bug with a firmware update, if this is possible or not the result of a hardware design"?

So both hardmac.com and 9to5mac remain hopeful a firmware fix is possible.

 

[Shao]

Yup 1.3 - but I had the same problem on an ooold firmware too.

Just be sure you're backed up then. Hopefully either OCZ or Apple will soon have a fix.

Brew: Do you have msn? Add me in catbunny@hotmail.com
I just want to know what happened with ur Vertex and see if i can help with anything XD

 

[runen]

The guy on the forum mac1.no (norwegian) has the new MacBook Pro 13" 2.53 GHz, he says that when he puts his 250 GB HDD in the MacBook Pro it reports 1,5 Gbit and when he puts his 500 GB HDD in it reports 3.0 Gbit... not able to get a screenshot from him though...

 

[Poirot818]

Reported through 9to5mac.com:

New MacBook Pro Limited 1.5 Gbits/s SATA Bus: Follow-up

They have concluded that this is probably a hardware issue and non-fixable, but 9to5mac is still remains hopeful that this is correctable via a firmware since just about everyone has confirmed the chipset is SATA 3.0 to begin with.

Oh the confusion. Just out with it Apple. This is getting too much

Here's a comment from the 9to5mac article.

This article (and others like it around the net) is really misleading. The fact is that the SATA I interface is active on MacBooks *without* SSDs, but if you buy a MacBook with the SSD option the SATA II interface is active and the speed is *not* reduced. What you are not clearly stating here is the fact that the user will only encounter problems if the buy a computer *without* and SSD (and thus using the slower interface), and then remove the HD and put in an SSD. In other words this is only a problem if you hack the computer. Obviously it would be better if Apple provided a firmware way of resetting the SATA interface for situations like this where a user *does* want to upgrade a non SSD machine to one that uses an SSD, and (here's the kicker), IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT THEY WILL IN THE NEAR FUTURE. But to take a stock machine off the self, literally a week or so after it's first available, take out the HD and put in an SSD, and then cry foul over the SATA interface speed is a bit much. At the very least, you should clearly explain what's going on here and not just tar and feather Apple for this without any thought about what the situation actually is.

I'm really getting sick of people like this. It's probably Engadget's fault too for spreading misinformation.

At the very least, you should clearly explain what's going on here and not just tar and feather Apple for this without any thought about what the situation actually is.

What are the odds that this guy actually owns one of the new MBPs?

 

[Unprocessed1]

The guy on the forum mac1.no (norwegian) has the new MacBook Pro 13" 2.53 GHz, he says that when he puts his 250 GB HDD in the MacBook Pro it reports 1,5 Gbit and when he puts his 500 GB HDD in it reports 3.0 Gbit... not able to get a screenshot from him though...

I doubt that's legit. Doesn't make much sense. A lot of MBP have the 500 GB HD and still 1.5 gig

 

[MB4me]

I just send a email to Philip Schiller (schiller@apple.com)and cc to Steve Jobs.
Hope they could give us an answer if this is fixable and when.

ZSNOW- I just emailed the Schiller address that you referenced above. Do you happen to have anymore email addresses for the Apple Big Wig representatives, whom we can also send our emails to?
Perhaps, we can all get together and flood these guys with personal emails, in the hopes that we might get some type of response with regards to this looming SATA I vs. SATA II controversy.

Btw, I was reading that this same chipset by Nvidia MCP79 AHCI is capable of 6.0gbps speed, again might this be contributed to a possible firmware upgrade?

http://download.intel.com/technology/serialata/pdf/rev1_3.pdf

located on PAGE 15 you will find it under BITS 23:20 the encoding for the interface speed.

Thanks in Advance,
MB

 

[iphonesrq]

The guy on the forum mac1.no (norwegian) has the new MacBook Pro 13" 2.53 GHz, he says that when he puts his 250 GB HDD in the MacBook Pro it reports 1,5 Gbit and when he puts his 500 GB HDD in it reports 3.0 Gbit... not able to get a screenshot from him though...

Not true.....here's a screen shot of mine w/ 500gb HDD in it

 

[tdream]

I read their conclusion a bit differently. I held high hopes on this part:

So, in summary, it seems that it is a hardware issue/choice, and we are particularly disappointed as the recently launched MBPs were really looking as an accomplished and well balanced notebook family. We really expect that Apple will quickly correct this bug with a firmware update, if this is possible or not the result of a hardware design.

Hardmac expects, Apple have not said anything yet.

 

[zsnow]

ZSNOW- I just emailed the Schiller address that you referenced above. Do you happen to have anymore email addresses for the Apple Big Wig representatives, whom we can also send our emails to?
Perhaps, we can all get together and flood these guys with personal emails, in the hopes that we might get some type of response with regards to this looming SATA I vs. SATA II controversy.

Btw, I was reading that this same chipset by Nvidia MCP79 AHCI is capable of 6.0gbps speed, again might this be contributed to a possible firmware upgrade?

http://download.intel.com/technology/serialata/pdf/rev1_3.pdf

located on PAGE 15 you will find it under BITS 23:20 the encoding for the interface speed.

Thanks in Advance,
MB

I received a email from him 1 min before

"
We are investigating this.
Please "stay tuned".

Phil "

I just google him and get the email then if you google his email addres you can got more people email from apple.

 

[MacModMachine]

i was just thinking, ....this is not new....apple did cap the 6gb memory on early macbook's and pro's right....


just a thought...

 

[MacModMachine]

Did we bring 1.5gbit sata on ourselves?

apple limited the memory in the early macbook pro's much like this 1,5gb sata cap,

remember....only 6gb memory supported.

i wonder if apple thought....hey we got away with this...lets try the sata now....


lets hear some thoughts

 

[zsnow]

i was just thinking, ....this is not new....apple did cap the 6gb memory on early macbook's and pro's right....


just a thought...

this should be consider as a bug already from Apple. otherwise they wont' investigate it. just reply "yes. we designed it 1.5Gb"

 

[MB4me]

I received a email from him 1 min before

I just google him and get the email then if you google his email addres you can got more people email from apple.

Zsnow ... this is the message I just received as well.
P.S. a Google search turned up Steve Jobs email address as being:
sjobs@mac.com

Hi Andrew,


We are investigating this.
Please "stay tuned".


Phil

 

[glitch44]

lets hear some thoughts

I think this didn't need it's own thread. You could've put it in the big 1.5GB SATA thread.

 

[errol]

i was just thinking, ....this is not new....apple did cap the 6gb memory on early macbook's and pro's right....


just a thought...

But they never went backwards...

 

[bcaslis]

Reported through 9to5mac.com:

New MacBook Pro Limited 1.5 Gbits/s SATA Bus: Follow-up

They have concluded that this is probably a hardware issue and non-fixable, but 9to5mac is still remains hopeful that this is correctable via a firmware since just about everyone has confirmed the chipset is SATA 3.0 to begin with.

Oh the confusion. Just out with it Apple. This is getting too much

This is typical web non-journalism.

1.) They did not talk to Apple. They have no info. None. NADA.
2.) Other people in this thread have done the same thing. Of course it doesn't work.
3.) Going from the hardware doesn't give us the right answer to "we really think Apple could fix this" is like wishing for the tooth fairly to swoop in and leave us all a new MBP.

 

[KettyKrueger]

Zsnow ... this is the message I just received as well.
P.S. a Google search turned up Steve Jobs email address as being:
sjobs@mac.com

Hi Andrew,


We are investigating this.
Please "stay tuned".


Phil

If genuine, I would say that this is very encouraging. He could have very easily said something to the effect of 'that's the way it's supposed to be' and the case would have been closed.

 

[kidtronix]

I received a email from him 1 min before

Which email did you receive this from?

 

[zsnow]

Which email did you receive this from?

Philip Schiller (schiller@apple.com)

 

[mikethebigo]

The LEAST Apple could do is say it's either a firmware or hardware issue. Then, even if people just knew it would be fixed sometime in the future, many more people would buy their laptops now, or not return them to the store in a fit of rage (whether the rage is justified is another issue altogether).