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Ugh, if they do this, if they reintroduce magsafe in some form I hope, like others have said, that it’s either built into the USBC port or in addition to (fully! No iPhone “slower charge on third party devices that dont license our chip” crap) supporting regular USBC charging. Also magsafe 2 sucked, so I’m not eager for a return; I understand they needed to make the magnets weaker as laptops got lighter to get the same advantage but the result was I was endlessly accidentally unplugging my MBA!

I do wonder if it’ll be some sort of mat you can just plop your laptop down on, that might be cool assuming you dont need to plug anything else in (at that point a TB or USB dock like I’ve got scattered around already makes way more sense)

I’ve gotten very used to single cable docking, to having common cables across the apt for most devices and common chargers for all my devices, and to the general convenience of all purpose, industry standard, ports!

Also, in terms of other ports, not sure what they could introduce that would keep a slim profile and make it so most folks who use dongles wouldnt need them. The three major ports they could bring back are USBA, HDMI, and ethernet/RJ45. All of those are too thick to fit on even a slightly fattened MBP, even older USB or HDMI are tough and an RJ45 jack is right out without a folding mechanism like some Lenovo laptops have that’s subject to mechanical strain that I doubt Apple would go for. If they went with micro-HDMI for video it would fit but almost everyone would still need a dongle, and one less common than USBC ones no less.
 
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No Touch bar might even lower the prices, MBP's had been starting at 1799-1999 for base models before, then came the overpriced Touch Bar models.
Hopefully also cheaper because lack of expensive Intel CPU's.
Yup.. That stupid, useless touchbar adding like $200 was ridiculous.

Same with the iPad Pro's and Face ID..

Apple. This garbage isn't worth your price hikes.
Give me a choice or I choose not to buy at all.
 
Count me as one of many that does not want a return to the function keys of the 1970s. While the Touch Bar is not revolutionary, I almost never use the function keys.
I used them a lot for play, pause, forward, back, brightness and sound control. I believe I'm not the only one. The great thing was that they always worked pretty much instantly. With the touch bar, you never know if the computer responds or not, and when it does, there's often a significant lag (not to mention that you can't just use it based on muscle memory). So annoying.
 
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I wonder what the final day I can order a fully kitted Intel Mac will be?

Does anyone have any experience buying a Mac from the Apple Store just before they remove them?
 
I used them a lot for play, pause, forward, back, brightness and sound control. I believe I'm not the only one. The great thing was that they always worked pretty much instantly. With the touch bar, you never know if the computer responds or not, and when it does, there's often a significant lag (not to mention that you can't just use it based on muscle memory). So annoying.
Also I can change volume, brightness, etc without having to look down at my keyboard!

I have a 2020 Intel MBA without a touchbar for personal use and a 2016 15” MBP for work. I’m really hoping the replacement for my work machine this year doesnt have a touchbar, not only can’t I stand it when using the laptop as a laptop but, for anyone who docks their laptop at their desk with an external keyboard, displays, etc, it’s just an expensive addition to and potential failure point on the machine that doesnt get used at all - and as a result if you typically switch between docked and mobile use you’ll never incorporate it into your workflow even when you are using the laptop away from your desk.

If Apple were going to do anything newish with a keyboard I really wish they’d release an external keyboard with a fingerprint reader, that would actually be handy
 
Complaining because a few, lowest common denominator ports, that can literally be reproduced for $25, are sacrificed to allow more external bandwidth and expandability than has ever been possible before, is whining.

Those who complain about the use of TB3 "just want" their own personally useful ports back, and **** anyone who doesn't use those ports. That's what these posts are really saying: "**** anyone else who doesn't use those legacy ports, and gets better use from TB3 - the single use legacy ports should be added back"
My comment had nothing to do with being able to "reproduce". The lack of ports is a common criticism. No one is "whining". If you have no issue with it, great! Others do, they are not whining. Move along.
 
Apple has no choice but release their entire line of Macs with Apple silicon this year. The current M1 line has been so successful that hardly anyone is even remotely interested in buying Intel Macs right now.
There is a somewhat significant population of people that are some combination of young, dumb, stupid, loaded- that insist on using Macs for things PC's are far superior at, and they need Intel Macs to do that.
 
If you have no issue with it, great! Others do, they are not whining. Move along.
I have a problem with people demanding legacy and single use ports are “required”, ignoring the realities of how that affects functionality others use.

some people want a few specific I/o ports they specifically use.

Other people want flexible, adaptable ports that can provide essentially any i/o anyone could use.
 
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Let's begin the ritual of creating concept art of what these redesigned Macs will look like and then when the production units actually ship, let's all be disappointed at what could've been!

Remember the rumors about the iPhone X and the just enormous amount of concept art that floated around on the internet before the iPhone X was released? Let me share some of my favorite iPhone X designs:

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I have a problem with people demanding legacy and single use ports are “required”, ignoring the realities of how that affects functionality others use.

some people want a few specific I/o ports they specifically use.

Other people want flexible, adaptable ports that can provide essentially any i/o anyone could use.
Are you that worried about what other people "demand'? You have a "problem" with people "demanding"? What a strange thing to be worried about. Do you have family members that are part of the design team? Why would you take something like that personally that you spend time having a "problem" with what others think?
 
Not a big fan of going back to Magsafe. I don't want to carry a special cable to charge. Hopefully, if they do add Magsafe you will still be able to charge via USB-C so I can carry just one type of cable and charger for all my devices.
 
Are you that worried about what other people "demand'? You have a "problem" with people "demanding"? What a strange thing to be worried about. Do you have family members that are part of the design team? Why would you take something like that personally that you spend time having a "problem" with what others think?

Tell me some more how I’m wrong to take issue with people whining and making self cantered demands for 4 years.
 
I said it was odd, and it is. Perhaps find a hobby.
As a mass manufactured product, there is always going to be something individuals don't like.....
But the Touch Bar does seem more universal than most things.
Magsafe, I personally don't care either way, but it must be TB4 compatible so monitors can use the same port to charge.

All I really care to see in these new machines is :

quiet running
fast speed [CPU and GPU]
low heat
great design
SD card slot

everything else is secondary
 
I'm really curious about the either a USB-A port or SD card slot, because that would allow expanding storage again, even if not ideal, it was pretty nice having that option especially for so many people buying the 128gb and 256gb models, and then having so much pain with lack of space.

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Yup.. That stupid, useless touchbar adding like $200 was ridiculous.

Same with the iPad Pro's and Face ID..

Apple. This garbage isn't worth your price hikes.
Give me a choice or I choose not to buy at all.
good choice
 
Being both a Mac and Surface user I have never seen so much whining and crying in life. Folks want DVD drives back and DVI ports and FireWire.

it’s not 2007 and I don’t see why folks are this stuck in the past and expect Apple to support this old ass hardware until the end of time.

I mean will people be attempting to sue Apple because their Apple QuickTake camera from 1997 does not work?
 
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Being both a Mac and Surface user I have never seen so much whining and crying in life. Folks want DVD drives back and DVI ports and FireWire.

it’s not 2007 and I don’t see why folks are this stuck in the past and expect Apple to support this old ass hardware until the end of time.

I mean will people be attempting to sue Apple because their Apple QuickTake camera from 1997 does not work?
Apple NEVER goes backwards. I hope people realise this. They may remove a feature, but not add in old ports.
There wont be USB A, 100% guaranteed, and I doubt a SD card slot [but I would like one].

The magsafe will have to be integrated into the TB4 ports, and hopefully to each side. The great thing about the current models is being able to charge from either side - if this is lost for magsafe I will be a bit pissed, as to me magsafe does not take priority over convenience.
 
Apple NEVER goes backwards. I hope people realise this. They may remove a feature, but not add in old ports.
There wont be USB A, 100% guaranteed, and I doubt a SD card slot [but I would like one].

The magsafe will have to be integrated into the TB4 ports, and hopefully to each side. The great thing about the current models is being able to charge from either side - if this is lost for magsafe I will be a bit pissed, as to me magsafe does not take priority over convenience.

Sure they go backwards. They’re back to scissor keyboards, for example.
 
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Sure they go backwards. They’re back to scissor keyboards, for example.
Not the same keyboard as the 2015 models though, and was more amending an engineering detail, is not the same as including dated ports.
 
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