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14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pros: Everything We Know
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Where do they get this stuff from? Apple might kill the Touch Bar, but does anyone really think they are going to add back in Magsafe, USB-A or HDMI when USB-C does all these things.
They might have been 4 years early launching a machine only with USB-C ports, but it is the right decision today. I hate buying anything now that isn't USB-C.
They might have been 4 years early launching a machine only with USB-C ports, but it is the right decision today. I hate buying anything now that isn't USB-C.
Want for 14/16" MBP: For them to both offer the same features (not driving me to the 16" for more RAM/storage) an SD card slot and MAGSAFE! I think that's the killer feature there.
I'm quite obviously in the minority of my other opinions; I actually use & like the Touch Bar. When I'm using the MBP by itself (which is quite often) I use it a lot. When it's on a stand & I have a BT mouse & keyboard connected, then it's obviously out of reach and I don't use it, but guess what? So would the praised FN keys that everyone wants brought back. (of which I personally don't know a single person that uses them.)
And as for all the complaining about dongles for the last 5 years? Jesus, get over it. Yes, in the beginning it was a PITA, but now, there are so many choices. I have NEVER carried a bag full of dongles, & no-one else should either. I have 1 Hyperdrive hub that allows me to connect EVERYTHING! That's it. If you're still complaining about it, you're just looking for something to complain about.
I'm quite obviously in the minority of my other opinions; I actually use & like the Touch Bar. When I'm using the MBP by itself (which is quite often) I use it a lot. When it's on a stand & I have a BT mouse & keyboard connected, then it's obviously out of reach and I don't use it, but guess what? So would the praised FN keys that everyone wants brought back. (of which I personally don't know a single person that uses them.)
And as for all the complaining about dongles for the last 5 years? Jesus, get over it. Yes, in the beginning it was a PITA, but now, there are so many choices. I have NEVER carried a bag full of dongles, & no-one else should either. I have 1 Hyperdrive hub that allows me to connect EVERYTHING! That's it. If you're still complaining about it, you're just looking for something to complain about.
There are plenty of 3rd party USB - C magSafe like cables that work just fine and do not damage the port when the separate; the key is the USB-C male connector stays in and the cable disconnects from it. I doubt Apple would implement such a design and that is why the rumors have a separate MagSafe port. As long as USB-C charging still works I have no issue with adding MagSafe.
USB-A is a legacy port that will not come back; and since various video formats can be had via USB-C there is no reason to add an HDMI port at the expense of USB-C. Less functionality, more space and not compatible with all displays.
If they get rid of the Touch Bar, I will never upgrade my MacBook Pro. The Touch Bar is to do things faster. Plus, it a slick design to the MacBook Pro.
The Touch Bar was a function of the integrated T2 security chip that ran a “baby iOS” version. Since an Apple Silicon will have those security functions built-in, they won’t replicate another chip for a tiny Touch Bar screen.
I can’t see Apple going too crazy on ports.. maybe they add USB-A and HDMI back. MagSafe doesn’t make sense after they’ve pushed everyone to USBC/TB. Especially because the new ones shouldn’t need 100W chargers this time.
Yea, it makes no sense to have to build a separate chip just for the Touch Bar; although with the M1's iOS layer if tehy wanted tehy probably could adapt that for a Touch Bar interface. What would be interesting is to combine the Touch Bar's display with programmable physical keys so the keycap changes based on the programming.
USB-A is a legacy port and Apple has never brought one back AFAIR; and USB -C already provides video out so there is no need to take up space with a dedicated video port. Better to add USB-C than dedicated ports, except MagSafe. Adding MagSafe lets Apple build a charger to their specs with the bonus of the break away connector; as long as USB-C charging is available there is no real loss unless Apple deletes a port for MagSafe.
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How is it faster to have to look down at the keyboard instead of the screen where your work is?
How is it faster to have to look at a touchbar to see where the key you want to hit lives at the moment, instead of reaching for a key that is always in the same place and which you can hit without looking at it?
How is it faster to have to undo things that happen over and over again when you accidentally brush the touchbar with a stray finger, because it doesn’t require any pressure or provide any tactile feedback?
I really like being able to plug-in to power my 2018 MBP on the right side since that's where my charger resides. I'm usually sitting in a recliner and the table and thus the charger is on my right side. I hated having to drag the power cord across my lap with my old 2013 MBP.
Every other computer I own is a pain re: charging ports - left vs. right vs. rear.
Apple deserves credit for charging via all four ports - and port replicator on any of them (or, if you have a two-USB-C replicator, on either side).
They brought back the scissor keyboards because users wanted it.
They brought back the tower-style Mac Pro because users wanted it.
They started making monitors again, because users wanted it.
I certainly hope that they are going to make routers and decent Cinema Displays again.
Have you noticed that in the latest Apple Creative tv commercial, almost all of the famous people are using pre-2016 MacBooks with the backlit Apple logo?
and becasue of failure issues with the previous keyboard
and becasue it allowed more design flexibility and fewer cooling issues
and because users will pay a significant premium
and none of those added in legacy ports.
Wrong ‘going back’
They mean legacy technology. And they never ever have gone back.
I'll bet you are wrong. Maybe in 3 or 4 years, when software developer have caught up. But not this year.
The Touch Bar may be replaced with something else. Also, it adds significant cost to the price of the laptop.
Except for the BILLIONS of USB-A devices that still and will continue to exist for years. A single USB-A would be useful.
It won't take 3 or 4 years for tools to be updated,. Developers will be able to comfortably upgrade way before then. Progress is already underway.
Of course, I don't know what tools you require.
Just a few:
Golang support for Apple silicon is due February,
Docker preview is out, Python, Java, C, C++ ( of course these two ) already have native support.
Other tools such as Postgres can be run under Rossetta 2.
Brew is going to take a while, but there are alternatives.
Ther are people who won't buy anything other thn Intel, for various reasons. Apple isn't dumping Intel yet, especially for its business customers.
What is the requirement for something to be considered "legacy"?
People keep bringing the floppy and later CD drop. but don't remember things used to de adopted way faster back then.
When they were dropped clearly superior alternatives replaced them and were forgotten in around 5 years. USB-C adoption has been a complete mess, no wonder most things still come in USB-A
People keep bringing the floppy and later CD drop. but don't remember things used to de adopted way faster back then.
When they were dropped clearly superior alternatives replaced them and were forgotten in around 5 years. USB-C adoption has been a complete mess, no wonder most things still come in USB-A