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15" macbooks could never really cannibalize the sales of MBP's. Pros that require a computer with an express slot, higher RAM support and a dedicated GPU that can support larger cinema displays will still go for the pro. When I purchase my next Mac laptop, these are the things I'll need, the size of the on-board display is not as big a deal to me since I find the size of the MB's 13" pretty decent. I live with mine just fine, but I want to get a pro machine as an upgrade, not the same consumer laptop with a larger screen.
 
Apple should jump into the 600-800 laptop market.

So that we have a harder time deciding between computers.


I personally feel like apple have an excellent pricing structure going on.
They appeal to the middle class and high class only.

Wheres the 500 laptop man? we poor people count 2
 
I want the 12" MacBook (pro or not)

The current MacBook (yes, I've got one) is way big for those of us used to the 12" Aluminum Powerbook, especially if you do any real travelling.

This is exactly the way I feel. I've held off on buying a MacBook simply because after using my sister's, it still doesn't compare to the 12" Al in portability. A 12" MacBook, pro or not, is what we want. (The preceding does not say we do not want a 15" MB. We'd just like a 12" MB more.)

Edit:
In reply to those that want a low-end laptop, the thing with Apples is that you get a computer you can hold onto and use for a while. The $500 machines are typically crippled in one way or another that won't be nearly as future proofed. Plus it would kill resale on existing machines.
 
when the macbooks were first introduced last may, I wrote many times that there should be both a small MBP and a large MB. There's simply no reason to think that "pro" users want only large screens and "consumer" users want only small screens. I think that the 17" should stay "pro" only, but I'd really like to see both a 12" MBP and a 15" MB. It's not one or the other - there's a market for both.

This seems more likely. I agree with everything:D I just see a widescreen 14.? inch instead of 15 inches.

I don't know.... something like that
 
Exactly - let's talk about prices. Here's my guess...I guess, :D

13.3" MB (white) | $999 - $1099
13.3" MB (black) | $1199 - $1299
15" MB (white) | $1299-1399
15" MB (black) | $1499

12" MBP | $1699 (if it happened)
15" MBP | $1999
15" MBP | $2499
17" MBP | $2799



I don't think the price scale that your guess is ..

And I don't think that :apple: will make 12"MBP or a 15"MB ..

:apple: got away from the Multi-Price scheme e.g. G4 PPC line they had 12"/14" iBook and 12"/15"/17" PB line .. The price difference between 14"iBook and 12" PB was so slim..

Now :apple: has price gap between the lines .. i think this scheme will work for a while
 
My personal feeling on the 15.4" MB is that this is a great competitive move on Apple's part for couple of reasons. First, all Dell, HP, Gateway, etc. laptops all come in the 15.4" size, so this will finally give Apple a comparable model in terms of size and specs, assuming they keep the price reasonable (there aren't too many consumer oriented Windows laptops that start at $2000 like the MBP). Second, this model will certainly appeal to certain demographic groups that look at the 13.3" MB screen and say "it's too small, I can't read it". I can tell you right now that it would be very difficult to get my 62 year-old father to buy a 13.3" MB when there are Windows laptops with larger screens for quite a bit less money.

Apple needs to offer comparable products at similar prices and then continue promote the advantages of OS X and the whole Apple experience.
 
I don't think the price scale that your guess is ..

And I don't think that :apple: will make 12"MBP or a 15"MB ..

:apple: got away from the Multi-Price scheme e.g. G4 PPC line they had 12"/14" iBook and 12"/15"/17" PB line .. The price difference between 14"iBook and 12" PB was so slim..

Now :apple: has price gap between the lines .. i think this scheme will work for a while

Agreed! :D I always loved the PC G4 laptop line. But I thought the 12" iBook and the 12"PB were always in competition with each other. My girlfriend debated over the two machines for months before she bought the powerbook. She decided that the book would last a lot longer than the 1.33Ghz iBook. Her 1.5Ghz PowerBook is still kicking strong running photoshop and illustrator. She didn't like the $500 price increase though. And it was a bit more confusing for her with the 14" iBook at the same price.
 
I personally feel like apple have an excellent pricing structure going on.
They appeal to the middle class and high class only.

Wheres the 500 laptop man? we poor people count 2

I'm poor and have 3 Macs. So i guess Apple appeals to all markets.
 
Agreed! :D I always loved the PC G4 laptop line. But I thought the 12" iBook and the 12"PB were always in competition with each other. My girlfriend debated over the two machines for months before she bought the powerbook. She decided that the book would last a lot longer than the 1.33Ghz iBook. Her 1.5Ghz PowerBook is still kicking strong running photoshop and illustrator. She didn't like the $500 price increase though. And it was a bit more confusing for her with the 14" iBook at the same price.



Thanks for that ..



The 13.3" Mac book is a 16:10 screen already .. the screen is shorter in height but wider in width :D



So no need for your idea of an 14.4" Mac book
 
I would love a 12" MBP or similar. Something small, light and powerful. As a companion to a larger desktop machine or to a large screen.

A large MB does nothing for me. Why do people want to lug around 15" laptops? If the resolution is the same then this is a no brainer. Literally.
 
But people's main complaint about the MB and the reason I will not buy one is the screen. It is to small and lacks an anti-glare coating.

I know some people who would buy a MB - if it hadn't that glossy screen. Apple should at least offer an anti-glare option.

Graefe
 
If this is indeed true I'll be curious to see what the specs and price point are on this bad boy. My wife was thinking about buying a new MacBook Pro once Leopard and iLife 07 were released (along with a general refresh to the line), primarily for the 15" screen. If there is a 15" option in the MacBook that might be better suited for our needs since we don't need some of the MBP's "pro" features... :cool:
 
most ppl don't care about that. In lecture halls at school, everyone has big ass dells and HPs and Compaqs and Acer and blah blah, hard;y anyone has a smaller laptop. Even the 13.3" dells look huge compared to my Macbook so size isn't a factor.

If Apple wants more people to buy their laptops, make an even cheaper one. $1k is still a lot for most people to throw down on a laptop especially when you can get a (crappy) HP one for like $500 bucks...

Don't you think the large bezel gives Apple almost the amount of space they need to plop a larger screen in it, significantly reducing that bezel (like they would do with PB's bezel for bigger screens)? They may need to do some slight resizing to the whole thing, but not much internally. I think if they come out with a 15", what's the point in keeping the 13"? I have a 13" MB and it's great, but the height is left to be desired. Would be nice to have the 15", then the MBPs, and perhaps a 11" MB for ultraportability (more like a Mini's specs to fit, and would be a nice price!).
 
I'd rather see a smaller MBP or an "inbetween" MacBook (14.1" maybe), but this will do for me. If it's true, I won't be buying a 13.3" MB after all. :p
 
Even if apple adds a 15" MB, it still won't compete with a $500 laptop. The $500 laptop and the any of the MBs or MBPs are completely different markets.
 
One of the things holding me back from a macbook is the 13" size (too small for me). I am not hopping around the world with a laptop under my arm so i don't mind a little extra size. The 15" real estate would be nice but I don't need the Pro features in a laptop and I certainly don't need the extra hit on the wallet.

If this ever happens it would be a laptop i would buy.
 
Ugh.. I hope this is not true. I want a small MBP way more. THis is like going back to the old 12" and 14" iBooks. The 14" iBook was the worst choice of all the portables.
 
As has been pointed out, it's a Digitimes rumour. I wouldn't pay to much heed to it.

Ditto...Digitimes is as reliable as MOSR...nothing more. Besides, it would make MUCH more sense for Apple to release a C2D 12" MBP, instead of creating more confusion between a 15" MB and a 15" MBP...

My vote? This rumor is TOTALLY BOGUS.
 
Apple should jump into the 600-800 laptop market.

So that we have a harder time deciding between computers.


I personally feel like apple have an excellent pricing structure going on.
They appeal to the middle class and high class only.

Wheres the 500 laptop man? we poor people count 2

Nothing against the financially challenged, but as others have said, you are getting what you pay for with the $500 laptops. If you take that same $500 laptop and customize it with the same or equivalent specs/parts as Apple offers, you will find that your price is usually within $100 (either higher or lower) of Apple's price point.

Now, I'm not saying that those without funds don't deserve to own a Mac. Everyone deserves to own a Mac. But anyone buying a Mac can usually rest assured that they are getting a quality machine. By dipping into the lower price range, your Apple purchase no longer has that kind of guarantee.

Just to illustrate, consider buying an engagement ring. A diamond is a diamond, chemically (or whatever) speaking, right? But almost everyone knows that there are different levels of quality when talking diamonds. You may be able to buy your diamond for $300 from any discount jeweler, but what quality are you getting? However, those who know nothing about diamonds can walk into Tiffany's and feel assured that what they buy will be quality. Granted, you will spend more in Tiffany's, but you will also know exactly what you walk away with.

:D
 
Regarding the trackpad on the blackbook, I am not sure what Apple could do there really. Most every laptop I know of that uses a black trackpad ends up with similar "wear" issues.
-Zadillo

I have a dark grey one and I never had this problem. I think my black dell trackpad may have had it.. but never as bad as the black MB does.
 
13"MBP would be the better choice for me

I'd rather a replacement for the 12" PowerBook filled the gap instead.

I agree on you there, for me personaly i'd rather see a 13 " MBP instead , but i guess that will not come otherwise it would have been here already.
 
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