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Remind me - which are the bad and good configs of the new-gen (M2) Air? It was that the base model out of two models (256Gb) had storage split across two chips, making it slower and calling on swap memory, right?

So, this is likely to carry over to the 15-inch, you reckon?
Wrong. Calling swap memory is mostly on RAM, not storage. Unless you live in Max tech Clown world.
 
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Apple needs to make this! But Apple also needs to be less stingy with I/O. Not having any USB-C on the right side of their MacBook Airs is less than what paying customers deserve.
 
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Could not agree more (for a change lol). What is the difference between the MBP 16" line and the MBP 14" line? 2 inches. The screen size (and the bigger battery that comes with that). That's really about it.

Anyone expecting/hoping a MBA 15" to have radically different technology from the MBA 13" are setting themselves up for disappointment. It's just going to have a bigger screen.

No M3. No Promotion. No Fan. Not this one.
I agree completely on the M3 and ProMotion. But...what if it's not an Air? I don't see the point in a larger, heavier thing with "Air" in its name.

But I do see a spot for a larger (15") Air-like (same ports) notebook (with a fan) that bridges that gap between the $1,199 M2 MacBook Air and the $1,999 M2 MacBook Pro, and takes the place of that 13" old-design MacBook Pro currently sitting in that in-between space.

Not saying that's going to happen, I'm just saying it's a valid option/possibility worth considering. That would make it a more enticing, interesting device vs. just slightly enlarging the existing Air, IMO.
 
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It's honestly just the Midnight color for me. It's stunningly gorgeous. Something MacBook Pro lacks.

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And a fingerprint magnet 🧲👎
 
My partners and my Mom all have various 13" MBAirs... they already have more than enough power for the tasks they do but they have all expressed wishes for larger screens. A 15" MBAir would be perfect for them.

My daughter has an older 13" Intel MBPro.... it has sufficient horsepower for her but she's often wished for a larger screen too. A 15" MBAir would be perfect for her too.

I've tried using 13" M1 MBAir for a personal machine and it also has more than sufficient power for my needs... but I found the screen size just a bit too limiting so went with a 14" M1 MBPro instead. A 15" MBAir would also be perfect for me.
 
And that's cool for you. But I own a MBA 2, and 16" MBP Max, and I would get rid of both of them for a 15" MBA 2. Why? The MBA2 handles 95% of the work I do with no problem, but I find the screen to be small. Conversely, I dont enjoy traveling with the 16" MBP because of its weight. So for that 5% need for heavy lifting while in the office, I would just rather have a Mac Studio and Studio Display, and a 15" MBA 2 while on the road.

Choice is a good thing.
Exactly. I have used 13" M1 MBAirs, and 14" and 16" M1 MBPros.... all three have plenty of horsepower and storage and battery life for my daily needs. I found the 13" displays just a bit too cramped for my workflows and my old eyes, and the 16" MBPros just a bit more weight and bulk then I wanted to carry around. So I purchased a 14" MBPro for my daily driver for personal use and absolutely love it. I have found myself wishing for a slightly larger display and a slightly lighter weight though... I imagine a 15" MBAir would hit that sweet spot perfectly for me.
 
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Sure, and then when it gets to that the same text below applies to M5. This cycle is never ending.

Meanwhile, you could have a machine that you enjoy now. I get it though, having the false sense of "security" is probably better hence the wait game is chosen :p


Its all about what you need when you need it. My 2010 MacBookPro is still usable after I doubled the ram and put an SSD in it. 😂 Knowing I'll probably keep my next one at least 5-6 years I'd rather wait for the M3, which by all measures will be a bigger jump than the M1-M2. I'd be willing to be the M3 would last an additional 3 years over the M2. Just my guessing though. That M2 is a hot boy.
 
according to the verge’s review, that laptop has “Terrible battery life for an ultraportable”, a “mediocre” webcam, and sound thats “not that great.
Also from the review, the computer came filled with bloatware, the reviewer only got around five hours of screen on time and directly mentioned that Apple’s entire line of M1 computers beat it, said it had a limit of only 395N brightness peak, which is lower than either the MacBook Air or the MacBook Pro.
Also, there’s plenty of mention across the Internet that this laptop has absolutely horrible PWM.
When I said earlier that no one cares about your 16tb OLED 250hz mega ultra whatever, its reviews like this that are the reason why people will buy Apple for more:
“My final note is on bloatware. This device shipped with a big load of annoying software preinstalled, including several McAfee programs that insisted on scanning everything I downloaded before I could open it, and that required me to close all my Chrome tabs and restart the computer in order to be uninstalled. This stuff shouldn’t be on a laptop that costs $1,400 — it just shouldn’t.”
Yeah, I think I’ll pass thanks.
I mean it’s nice and all that you quote the verge. But the user above is speaking from their OWN experience. Not some review. Each users own experience with the device is a trillion times more valuable than any review from a tech website. To each their own. That’s why there are tons of products to choose from. Quoting the verge doesn’t really do much though.
 
Pro line: Macbook Pro 13, 14 and 16 inch.
Air line: 13, 15 inch, consumer oriented.

MBA should come in 13.6” and 15.6” display sizes.

MBP should come in at 14.6” and 16.6” display sizes which should round up the sizes with a 1” difference overlap 13.6”, 14.6”, 15.6”, 16.6” while the Touchbar MBP should be discontinued.

At present the display size difference is just too close with some of these rumoured pipeline products.

Problem with an MBA between the 14 and 16 MBP is it potentially canabalize sales of those 2 models, reducing margin.
 
Assuming they set the price at +$200 over an equally specced 13.6", it would be $1,799 for 1TB with the 8 core GPU and 8GB RAM. There's precedent for the larger screen to be a +$100 modifier too (11.6" -> 13.3" non-retina MBA) or it could be more if they don't offer the 8GB GPU (like how the 16" lacks the 16 core GPU option that the 14" has). So bare minimum $1,699, more likely $1,799, possibly more than that! :)
Unless they drop the price of the base, they did just do that with the mini
 
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Even if Apple would release a 15" MacBook Air, I have a feeling it would be priced too close to the MacBook Pros just to nudge people to just get the Pros, in a typical Apple way. Ie the 15" MacBook air will probably start from $1699, but with measly 8/256 config, making the base 14" MacBook Pro more appealing (having 16/512 for just $300 more, along with the better SoC and display).

And the. Just like the iphone Plus, Apple would show how it's not selling well and it will discontinue it few years later (while seeing a nice boost in MacBook Pro sales).
 
Late did I realize that I should upgrade per use case or after final Security Update is released.

My use case has not changed since 2015. So the Macs since 2011/2012 were adequate. Just put SSDs to get ~500MB/s throughput.

Intel computers from 2014-2020 stagnated at 14nm. So it wasnt worth buying anything more than once within those years.
With OCLP 2012 machines across the whole line are still surprisingly solid - especially the 13" MBP and the Mac Mini QC Server (know those firsthand, I have one of each of those kicking around, I use them for as workbench machines in my garage)
 
Wrong. Calling swap memory is mostly on RAM, not storage. Unless you live in Max tech Clown world.
I mean I guess you could stretch the logic to note that a slower disk means slower swap, but yeah, the better way to avoid that particular problem is more ram, the disk being faster with 2 chips still doesnt come close to the speed of ram, so swapping is still going to suck relative to just avoiding the need to begin with.
 
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Unless they drop the price of the base, they did just do that with the mini
True, I assume eventually they will want the M2 to take the $999 slot from the M1, though maybe not until the M3 launches? I can see them maintaining the price of the latest model at $1,199 and having the last gen cover the $999 point. I'm expecting the entry level 15" to be $1,399 with 8 graphics cores, 8GB RAM, and 256GB storage. $1,299 would be a nice surprise, while OTOH there's also the possibility the base spec will be higher along with the price of admission.
 
While I'm not the target market for this, my wife 100% is. She's still rocking her 2014 15" MBP and has always preferred the 15" MBP solely because of the bigger screen. She doesn't need the power at all, but uses her laptop nearly 100% "like a laptop" w/out external screen, so really values the extra screen real estate.

Given the higher cost, she's been fine keeping her older 15" laptops for longer (just replaced it with a new battery / topcase last year to give it some new life). But I think she'd be a Day 1 buyer of a new 15" MBA that I would fully support.

That sounds right, at minimum. The Pro models have a $500 difference between the base 14” and 16” as well.

While that's true, that's really because the base 14" at $1999 has been priced at a great "value" with 512gb SSD and the double-binned 10-core CPU / 16-core GPU. To jump to the standard 12-core/19-core M2 chips + 1TB SSD = $500 ($200 for +512gb SSD and $300 for the "full-fat" chip with all cores activated).

Other than the base 14" model, Apple charges +$200 for every like-for-like config to go from 14" to 16" MBP. I agree with others that with a 13" M2 MBA at $1199, a 15" would mostly likely be $1399 or $1499 (my money would be on $1499, or +$300 from the 13").

Then +$200 for 16gb and +$200 for 512gb, eg. $1899 for a 15" MBA 16/512. Still cheaper than the base 14" MBP. And $600 cheaper than the base 16" MBP (with 16/512 at $2499).
 
The only laptop model that needs to see an update is the M2 MBP with its 720 P FaceTime camera and plain stereo speakers. Will a M2 15" take its place we'll see as this rumor has been going on for a long while.

While I was excited about updated M2/Pro Mac minis, the rest of the desktop line up is confusing. A M1 24" iMac, M1 Max/Ultra Studio, Intel Mac Pro.
I'm not sure if a non-confusing lineup is a priority for apple. The priority is the next thing is the best thing apple has put out and everyone must have it.
 
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