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Very enticed to buy this when it comes out, but I can't be the only one that's still bothered by the notch on these new machines.. Am I? Yeah? Oh okay.
I have a feeling that notch will stay for quite a few years, going by earlier presedence for design refreshes.

Just have to learn to tolerate it. Though it does suck and nobody will miss it when it's gone.

Not complaining about the increased vertical space (which is nice) but the notch is artificially big when just housing a camera.
 
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Gurman doesn't know anything. He just regurgitates things we already know. If he was a meteorologist, he would wait until it's already raining to tell us there's a 100% chance of rain.
How varied the 15" MBA rumors are per MacWorld

15-inch MacBook Air: Ross Young of Display Supply Chain Consultants first claimed the display would measure 15.2 inches, then later 15.5 inches. Ming-Chi Kuo said it would have both M2 and M2 Pro options, while Digitimes saying just an M2 (with 8-core and 10-core options) and Mark Gurman is entirely unsure, speculating that it could get the M3.

See listen to multiple rumor spinners and they all talk the talk but walk different directions.
 
"M2-like"? "On par with M2"? "Or a very similar chip"? What is THAT?

M2+? M2.5? M2 Junior Pro? (Or borrowing from AT&T 5G marketing before actual 5G) M2 Evolution? M1 Nitro/XL/Deluxe/<other marketing suffix>? ;)
Meaning with the same core count for cpu and GPU. As opposed to an M2 Pro-like chip with more cores.

The status tell you the core count but don’t tell you which chip generation this is.
 
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I have a 14” pro for work and I’m quite surprised at how similar the displays are (unless you’re watching hdr content which is impossible to find on the Mac). The contrast, colors, and brightness blow me away compared to even my old 13” M1 Pro I had before the 14” for work, and unless you’re in a pitch black room you won’t be able to tell which one is miniLED. I esp love how dim it gets compared to older macs. You only notice the resolution difference if doing pixel-perfect art, which you’ll want the better chip for anyway. All that said, I do wish it had promotion. And the air is dramatically lighter than the pro, I can stick it in my messenger bag and forget it’s there but my pro is a hardcover novel. Unelss you really need the performance of the chip, I wouldn’t let the display stop you from getting the air until OLED comes around.
Thank you. I appreciate the real world comparison. Sounds like the Air would still be a better choice for me.
 
Not at all. It's a blemish on an otherwise beautiful machine. And an intentional, boneheaded engineering decision.
It was a clever solution that allowed them to increase the size of the screen without increasing the size of the case. They did a good job of setting up app sizing and menu layout to work with the notch. As they are able to reduce the size of all those components, they will be able to reduce the notch. In the meantime, a lot of people who are bothered by a dark notch in a light menubar have used the several apps that are available to make your menubar dark to make the notch not stand out.
 
A 15" MBA isn't going to be any lighter than a 14" MBP though


13" MBA is 2.7 pounds (1.24 kg)
14" MBP (M2 Pro) is 3.5 pounds (1.60 kg)
16" MBP (M2 Pro) is 4.7 pounds 2.15 kg)

15" MBA = 3.6 to 3.9 pounds???
A 15” would like not be any heavier than the 14” MBP. While it will be wider and taller, it will be a lot less thick and have less battery.

the other comparison is to the 16” MBP and a 15“ Air will be at least a pound lighter than that one.
 
If it runs macOS 14, it wont release in WWDC 2023 cause macOS 14 wont be ready till October.
 
Ok. So you think Apple can do some magic and make a 15" MBA 2.75 lbs?

2.75 lbs is between 2.7 lbs and 3.5 lbs


Right. And that's why I said going up 2-inches from 13" MBA to a 15" MBA would add about 1.0 lbs (plus or minus 0.2 lbs) instead of the 1.2 lbs like on 16" MacBook Pro.

And do you not think a 15" MBA will have a larger and therefore heavier battery than a 13" MBA?
  • If you did a uniform scale from 13.6” to 15” you’d get 2.98 pounds. (15/13.6)*2.7=2.978
  • If you did a uniform scale from 13.6” to 15.5” you’d get 3.07 pounds.(15/13.6)*2.7=3.077
A uniform scale would make it thicker than it probably would be. If they kept the same thickness as the 13” Air, then the result would be a little lighter.
 
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Very enticed to buy this when it comes out, but I can't be the only one that's still bothered by the notch on these new machines.. Am I? Yeah? Oh okay.
You're definitely not the only one. I didn't buy the Air M2 because of the unibrow. There will be a day when Job's zen-elegant simplicity returns... Maybe it'll take a new CEO that disparages gimmicks.
 

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BTW this latest Mark Gurman report also says the following besides discussing his view on 15" MBA
Finally, the report indicates that Apple is also working on new versions of the 13-inch MacBook Air, the 24-inch iMac, and the entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro. Apple is also reportedly planning an update to the 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros for the first half of 2024.
 
How varied the 15" MBA rumors are per MacWorld

15-inch MacBook Air: Ross Young of Display Supply Chain Consultants first claimed the display would measure 15.2 inches, then later 15.5 inches. Ming-Chi Kuo said it would have both M2 and M2 Pro options, while Digitimes saying just an M2 (with 8-core and 10-core options) and Mark Gurman is entirely unsure, speculating that it could get the M3.

See listen to multiple rumor spinners and they all talk the talk but walk different directions.
Gurman never says anything with certainty unless it's already known. When he makes predictions, they're always vague so he can backtrack or he's just flat out wrong.
 
The current M2 products are as follows:

Mac14,7 - 13" MBP M2
Mac14,5/9 - 14" MBP M2
Mac14,6/10 - 16" MBP M2
Mac14,2 - 13" MBA M2
Mac14,3/12 - Mac Mini M2

And this is Mac15,3? Yeah, I'm sure Apple just incremented the major version number for no reason and it's totally staying with M2. ;)


(and before someone asks, the Mac Studio is Mac13,1/2).
It’s a completely new size of a model they’ve never done, regardless if chip they’re not gonna keep the same version number.
 
Apples computer sales dropped 24% in the first quarter of this year alone.

I thought their Q1 drop was even higher at 40.5%.

Since these are worldwide figures I think it shows the impact of Apple's price increases over the last year.

The M2 Air, for example, is a fine machine, but ÂŁ250 more expensive than the M1 it sort of replaced (Apple kept the M1 around at the same price but really it's a price increase in disguise for the Air) and RAM and storage prices are still ludicrous.

Add in generally how Apple has passed on exchange rates and inflation through price increases in many product categories and it's more than understandable that sales are down globally.

I'm not sure a 15" Air will be enough to at the moment to stop the bleeding for the moment. This is, btw, not an Apple doomsday post. Everyone is down, but Apple more so right now and I think pricing is a key part of that. The other, probably, that there is just no reason to upgrade from an M1 after the pandemic boom.
 
I would love a machine like this but only if it supported two external displays.

I just had to buy a new MacBook for work. It would have totally been the M2 Air with 16GB RAM, except for the fact that an M2 cannot support more than one external display. I went for a 14" M1 Pro base model (refurb) instead.
 
Ok. So you think Apple can do some magic and make a 15" MBA 2.75 lbs?

2.75 lbs is between 2.7 lbs and 3.5 lbs


Right. And that's why I said going up 2-inches from 13" MBA to a 15" MBA would add about 1.0 lbs (plus or minus 0.2 lbs) instead of the 1.2 lbs like on 16" MacBook Pro.

And do you not think a 15" MBA will have a larger and therefore heavier battery than a 13" MBA?

Yea and 3.45 lbs is also between those ranges, and would still be a lighter machine. If the screen indeed is 15.5” as rumored, it’s reasonable to see it as a competitor to the 16.2” MBP, not the 14.2” MBP, making weight even more of a selling point. The difference between the 11” and 13” Airs was only .58 pounds. A dated comparison for sure, but shows that it doesn’t take much to increase the size of a MBA screen.
 
Mark Gurman knows less than me, he's not even a good speculator. I've been tell you for the last 6 months nothing this year is going to ship with anything other than an M2 based processor. You're all trying to jump three steps ahead, you won't see M3 until M1 Ultra isn't the most powerful processor in Apple's line up.
 
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