Counterpart desktop versions are a lot more powerful and have way more memory. Here you get the same amount of memory just a new type of it. I’m not saying these aren’t good cards but I don’t think they are some kind of a bargain. We should wait for benchmarks and compare them to the Pro range of the iMac.
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There is a small performance hit which is IMO worth if for a laptop, but totally not worth it for a "desktop" Mac Mini. I think the difference (e.g. in FPS in games) is around 20% (there are plenty benchmarks on YT)
If those developers cared about the market, they would program in OpenCL, not CUDA.
And Premiere supports OpenCL.
Drop the AMD vs Nvidia chat, FFS. That discussion's been had countless times, and no one wins from repeating it all over again.
Actually now that I saw the cost of the upgrade, I went and I bought a non Vega version. In Hungary the upgrade is around 350EUR so not worth for a photo retoucher.
I could see this being worth if you do video editing but for the sake of chasing upgrades, not really. It's not that much of a speed bump.
They would need to offer Quadro only in order to get 10bit colour as standard across the range as they currently do with AMD.
How much are these cards being sold for? Although it’s a bit difficult to decipher, Apple is asking around $600 for the 20.
Premiere does indeed support OpenCL but CUDA is much faster and AMD cards are not as fast when it comes to video production, motion graphics or 3D rendering. Don't believe me? Puget Systems test all of this out for a range of different software - you can read it here but below is the important paragraph
"Does Premiere Pro run better with NVIDIA or AMD?
For Premiere Pro, we have seen consistently higher performance with an NVIDIA GeForce/Quadro card than with a comparably priced AMD Radeon/Radeon Pro card. Because of this, we highly recommend that you use an NVIDIA-based card for Premiere Pro."
Developers opt for CUDA because of the huge performance gains. That is crucial for any pro.
CUDA is faster than OpenCL on NVIDIA because they don't care.
NVIDIA is faster at compute than AMD if you pay a lot more.
Wait, you’re on an Apple forum moaning about the price of Nvidia? HA! And how is that a bad thing that you pay more for better performance? #flawedargument
You clearly love AMD, good for you. It doesn’t change the fact that the pro market would like Apple to offer it as an option.
I get that. But you’re arguing with me over the same point - it would be great to have an Nvidia option IF YOU NEED IT
This is hilarious. I get that. But a huge part of the Pro market do and Apple doesn’t give a crap.
But it would have been nice to have a heads up that it is in the planning stage. A year from now, I understand but not in 3 months.
I would think that they actually care about not falling into a monopoly.
I bought in July and I’m not mad. I probably wouldn’t have added the upgrade anyway. I didn’t even upgrade to the slightly better chip for 90 bucks, I figured if I really need great graphics I’ll just get an eGPU and hopefully with an Nvidia card.
That’s almost as hilarious as you saying Nvidia are overpriced in an Apple forum. Apple are monopolistic. They control every aspect of their brand and device and refuse to let a user think for themself. Just look at the repair market and Apple’s aggressive moves. Not offering a choice is monopolistic.
Apple has monopolistic tendencies, but they like to have a choice of GPU vendor. Feeding the CUDA juggernaut does not help.
Worried about heat dialing back performance the most, if only they had an option to use the 2.2ghz model with it I'd probably consider it in a heartbeat. Gonna wait for tests on YouTube, may just go 2.2ghz 560x with an eGPU when needed instead if it looks like the small chassis can't handle the heat.
Keyboard's fine, very easy to get used to and the latest model feels very nice.