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only thing about this which doesn't make sense the MacBooks are still marked as "new" on Apples site
 
I'm surprised by all the peeps talking about changing the 2012 retina MacBooks etc. I find mine to still be pretty fast and find that anything with a SSD in is pretty decent.

The only time I find a comp painfully slow is when going back to the normal hard drives etc.
 
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Sad that there's been no change to the Mac mini since October 2014. fish or cut bait.

People that buy computers are no longer Apple target demographic. Apple is interested in fashion, style, and popularity, not cost, functionality, and performance. The engineers have left and marketing has taken over. Get over it. Its better for Cook to be on magazine covers and in the news than Apple products.
 
I'm surprised by all the peeps talking about changing the 2012 retina MacBooks etc. I find mine to still be pretty fast and find that anything with a SSD in is pretty decent.

The only time I find a comp painfully slow is when going back to the normal hard drives etc.

My 2012 MBA is still pretty fast, I bought the maxed out model with i7 and I'm still happy with the performances.
It doesn't have a retina display though, and that would be the only reason for me to upgrade but since they're so pricey I may wait for another year or two.
 
Not unless they fire Ive and get rid of this thinness obsession for high end "Pro" products.

I feel that Ive has overplayed his stay at Apple. He always needed someone with a stronger vision (certainly not Cook) to challenge and keep his "preciosity" in check and next to that, he also feels like he's been losing interest in the past few years. Certainly something has gone flat since 2011.

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Bye bye headphone port, hello $100-200 price increase ;)

This will most probably be a processor upgrade to Kaby lake.

What I would like to see, but don't expect to... clear direction for the Macintosh.

Cheers
 
17 inch MBP/A? :D
24 hour battery...
Technically, with the footprint of the current 15" model, you could fit a 17" display if you completely remove the bezel. I can see this happening in the future as bezels disappear. They might make it slightly bigger than the current 15" model so it has a protective rim, but functionally it wouldn't be noticeable and such a future device would probably be thinner and lighter.
 
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The Radeon Pro 460 is in fact the full size Polaris 11, which was not available to the general public or OEMs until the RX 560 was released recently.

The RX 460 for the PC was a cut down Polaris 11. The full Polaris 11 die is only now available on PCs as the RX 560.

RadeonPro 460 = Radeon RX 560

AMD gave Apple almost a year's head start with their top-of-the-line mobile GPU, exclusively. Clearly AMD and Apple are very close. Not surprising, seeing as Raja Koduri, head of AMD Radeon Group used to work at Apple. So did Mark Papermaster the AMD CTO.

The RadeonPro 460 is slower than the RX 460.. which itself is level entry GPU at best. For a desktop GPU, its an absolute turd. $150 GPU ( at most ) inside a $3 to 4K laptop.
 
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All if not all then most. I use my laptop for creating software and have literally never needed what these so-called professional users claim they needed.

Well if you don't need it, clearly nobody could possibly need it, right?

On that note, they should get rid of cameras on the iPhones, iCloud, Apple Pay, Apple Watch, Apple Music, and Siri because I have literally never used those things. It will be a much more streamlined easier to use product with a lower cost/higher margin and if I don't use them, obviously nobody else does either, right?
 
I thought the 2017 MacBook Pro was to have 32 GB. of RAM? The two on the UK Apple store only have 16 GB.
 
How much change do you honestly expect?

Just an updated cpu/gpu and updated memory/SSD options would do it for me. On the 2015 model. Without increase price just to switch to the same value of modern components. And leave the same battery so I'd actually get a benefit out of Kaby Lake's more efficient design. I know that's a lot to ask for from Apple, right.

On the 2016...I'd want magsafe, a better CPU on the non-emojibar model, a 15" without an emojibar, a better keyboard with more travel, removable SSD (at the very least for data recovery purposes), SD Slot, USB 3 ports, optical audio, larger battery, lower price, light up Apple logo (hey I care how my computer looks, unlike Tim Cook). AND A LOWER PRICE.
 
For anyone who has followed Apple for any amount of time, this will come as no surprise.

Apple pricing remains fairly consistent among resellers until a month or two ahead of a product update. Apple likely relaxes its MAP rules, so they can clear inventory out of the channel.

Numerous resellers have been offering discounts on MacBook Pro models (both 13- and 15-inch models) for a while now, intensifying leading up to Memorial Day weekend. It seems pretty obvious to me that Kaby Lake updates are coming.
 
Apple pricing remains fairly consistent among resellers until a month or two ahead of a product update. Apple likely relaxes its MAP rules, so they can clear inventory out of the channel.

Numerous resellers have been offering discounts on MacBook Pro models (both 13- and 15-inch models) for a while now, intensifying leading up to Memorial Day weekend. It seems pretty obvious to me that Kaby Lake updates are coming.

So can I take hope from the fact that Best Buy has the same discount on the 2015 MBP as they do on the 2016? Or are they just going to discontinue the older one to try and push people into buying the worst mac ever made?
 
I'm not a "Pro" by the usual definition on this forum, but I really like the 15" screen. I would love to see a 15" offering that wasn't so much money. I also prefer a 512 SSD at least. But that means my web surfing, mail reading, Excel spreadsheeting notebook is $3k (with Applecare that I consider a must).
 
Maybe this has been discussed already. The newly introduced 13" Macbook Late 2008 Aluminum Unibody did not have FireWire but the Polycarbonate Macbook continued to have the Firewire port until the late 2009 release.

In Mid-2009 Apple released the 13" Macbook PRO which included Firewire.

I know, I know.

Yeah, but at that time there wasn't a 13" unibody MacBook Pro. So for all intents and purposes, the unibody MacBook was the 13" MacBook Pro. And people freaked out that it didn't have FireWire. So Apple added FireWire back and rebranded it as a "Pro."
 
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