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15-Inch MacBook Pro Delivery Estimates Slip Ahead of New Models Expected Next Week
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Same, I rotate my hardware out every 24 months, equally I refuse to pay premium for hardware employed professionally that will actually result in more inconvenience and reduced usability. Replaced my 13" Retina MacBook Pro last year on the release of the new MBP design, nor was it by Apple. Just spinning up a new project that will likely need a more powerful portable, again highly unlikely to be provided by Apple give the current state of affairs.
To me reducing the battery capacities for purely aesthetic reason was asinine, as was dropping highly relevant ports. Whole thing to me revolves around Apple serving Apple, reducing component & build cost, to extract higher margin. Keyboard is subjective, eqaully poor when held in comparison to notebooks where extended use of the keyboard was part of the design philosophy, not making it an 1/8" thinner.
Back to the power situation, personally I will always consider the MBP to be coming up short as Apple deliberately reduced the capacity, that's less runtime I will see in the field. Also gimped it with a maximum charging capacity of 100W thx the USB C solution, so the path is firmly laid for these weak AMD dGPU's. As some others have stated MBP is purely designed for the consumer and the ease of Apple...
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Cannot agree enough. The top photo especially bothers me so much.
I will give them credit that the new Pro's are great and I really think they are great machines, minus forcing the touchbar on the 15, but the rMB has always bothered me so much in having one port. You can't even charge the thing and plug in an iPhone, a pretty basic mac functionality, without an adapter, just seems crazy to me. That portion is very weird to me. Too many asterisks with their current ecosystem.
I can't recall either. I also don't think an SD card slot is necessary, I'm all for lighter, faster and wireless when possible. Apple pushes the industry forward which is good in my opinion.
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Cannot agree enough. The top photo especially bothers me so much.
I will give them credit that the new Pro's are great and I really think they are great machines, minus forcing the touchbar on the 15, but the rMB has always bothered me so much in having one port. You can't even charge the thing and plug in an iPhone, a pretty basic mac functionality, without an adapter, just seems crazy to me. That portion is very weird to me. Too many asterisks with their current ecosystem.
Why would you want to plug in your iPhone to your computer?
- magsafe
- Not likely, unless they figure out a way to add MagSafe to a standard USB-C port.
- a better CPU on the non-emojibar model
- That's a pretty sure bet.
- a 15" without an emojibar
- Would be nice, but seems unlikely Apple would add another SKU for this.
- a better keyboard with more travel
- Not gonna happen in this generation. The whole chassis would need to be redesigned to accommodate greater key travel. Besides, "better" is subjective. Many people (myself included) really like the feel of the new keyboards. Not everyone is a fan of long-travel clacky mechanical switches.
- removable SSD (at the very least for data recovery purposes)
- A reasonable request for a Pro machine, but given how much effort Apple put into the "thin and light" spec of these machines, there probably isn't much room for connectors on the logic board. Maybe in the next generation, but the whole industry seems to be moving toward soldered-on storage.
- SD Slot
- I've never used the slot. I just plug my camera in via USB. More cameras are coming with WiFi, so physical media seems like less of a priority every year.
- USB 3 ports
- At least ONE would be nice, but you know how Apple is when it comes to trying to drive innovation/adoption of new standards.
- optical audio
- This doesn't seem like something that's used very often, even by Pros. I'd rather see them put an HDMI port back on.
- larger battery
- If the space and thermal performance can accommodate it, absolutely.
- lower price
- Not likely. That's never been how Apple works. They just add speed, capacity, and features at the same price points.
- light up Apple logo (hey I care how my computer looks, unlike Tim Cook).
- Not gonna happen. And am I alone in thinking light-up logos feel kind of dated?
- AND A LOWER PRICE.
- It can't hurt to dream.
Man, if that's the price of the GPU, then whence cometh the price of laptop?
Oh right...Apple tax...forgot
That $150 is the retail price to the consumer.. not B2B bulk....
It feels to me like Ive is designing more for design aficionados than actual working designers, musicians, and media professionals over the last few years.
Exactly zero users have requested making Pro laptops ultra-thin at the expense of features and performance. And not one desktop user has said, "You know what I really need in my next high-performance machine? A cylindrical case. That would totally help make my business faster, more efficient, and more profitable."
Dear Jony: Stop focusing on getting your work into the design collections of museums. That's not helping.
I sync my entire media library, everything from iTunes including all of my music, videos, movies I might want to watch, and photos with my MBP. And to charge the phone when you are at a coffee shop hotel room, or any other list of places you might go while on your computer. The wireless sync doesn't do the trick. Slow, cumbersome, and buggy Been there, tried that. It is awful, and still wouldn't solve the charging problem. I do agree that I couldn't care less about the SD card slot however.
Still getting terrible battery life unfortunately. I managed to use Sketch on my (fully charged) MBP for about 2.5h on the plane last week (with one brightness level below max) before the battery dwindled to 5%
I think the 3D stuff kills it. Runs decently for me designing sites using PS and safari, but not anywhere near my 2013 retina 15"
Good call, I forgot about that completely. Although, that is 2 years between refresh, were talking 6 months with this one.
Actually, isn't the big surprise from the leaks that a processor bump to the Air is in the works for the same time?
Though that doesn't address its bigger flaw, the screen. Even without retina, that with an IPS screen would be grand.
I hope they make an option with full specs with NO touch bar Macbook Pro. Deliberately handicapping the non-touchbar version is a kick in the face. I'd rather put that money to spec increases to equal the same specs as the fully decked out touch bar version.
If the touch bar such a "must have" option/upgrade, surely it would be "courageous" to have it stand alone and compete on its own merits than force feed us something we don't want.
If the touch bar such a "must have" option/upgrade, surely it would be "courageous" to have it stand alone and compete on its own merits than force feed us something we don't want.
Yes and no. The GPU itself is clocked down to fit the 35W window of the MacBook Pro. The hardware itself is a full Polaris 11. It is extremely effective for what you get at 35W. What you are asking for is 75W performance in a 35W laptop. That's not happening.
An RX 460 desktop GPU is a 75W TDP item, because of its higher clock and is not going in any laptop at that clockspeed. But because the RadeonPro 460 is a full Polaris 11, it's way more effective than a similarly clocked RX 460. That is my point. If you had an RX 460 clocked the same as the RadeonPro 460, you'd understand.
There was and is AFAIK no better GPU available in the world today than the RadeonPro 460 for the TDP required by the MBP, which is dictated by the form and design of the MBP. So, no it's not trash and it's not an entry level GPU.
LOL why would I NOT want to plug my iPhone to my computer?
Here's a few off the top of my head: charging, iOS upgrades, making a full encrypted backup and restoring in case said upgrades brick the device, transferring my music library, patchy wi-fi connection to iTunes, and so forth. Are we really debating that question?
Indeed since I was stranded with the junk 2016 MBP I've been plugging my iPhone less and less. Not because I don't want to, but because it's cumbersome to reach out for the hub/dongle.
What's sad about these pictures is that 10 years ago people would have laughed at Apple's competitors had they designed them.
Nowadays the Sheeple praise them as "innovative".
In regard to the MBP yes, in regard to the MB, it is pretty much two years now. And I would argue that adding a second port to the one-port MB adds more utility than adding another port the on four-port MBPs. Note, that the precedent I was citing was about adding a second USB port of the same type that already existed (USB-A/USB2).
You have a vision problem here. Go ahead, and put a handle to your 10Kg workstation. It'll become a mobile workstation. Just add a 5Kg UPS, and it'll work anywhere 30 minutes.
With a hyperbole: Laptop is a car (Apple's Ferrari), workstation is a business jet. Switching the engines in-between makes one out of place machine. Although it would be fun to have a 10k hp engine in a car, with a 60 l tank it hardly starts up. And a jet airplane with 5.0 litre petrol engine doesn't fly. Neither does a workstation with a mobile chip.
PS. I know, iMac is kind of wannabe airplane... but that is another thread.
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LOL. Your funny. If Apple didn't comprise performance for the star bucks crowd ( form over factor ), Apple would be able to put a more beefy GPU inside.
You read like you've got tunnel vision - you can't think outside of Apple's ( Timmy's and Jonny's ) narrow box.
I'd argue that the zenith of Mac was the 17" MacBook Pro. I've added RAM, upgraded to SSD and larger SSD's, replaced 3 magsafe chargers, and it's still running reasonably well. I love that machine - luxuriously huge display, great sound, upgradeable, multiple ports, etc. I'm surprised they've abandoned this form factor, but I guess power users are too niche for them now. I probably only have a few years left in my 2011 17" MBP before it's simply too slow to use without aggravation.