15-Inch MacBook Pro Delivery Estimates Slip Ahead of New Models Expected Next Week

[Smeaton1724]

I wonder how many 2012 Quad Core Mac Mini's are still in use by Apple internally, you would think that software devs within Apple would be getting annoyed at the hardware themselves. Do they use any of the base models of iMac and Mac Mini, any of the machines that still ship with hard drives?! It really interests me the internal hardware arrangements they have. Surely it can't be overpriced Mac Pro's and discontinued Apple Cinema Displays?!

 

[simonmet]

#BringBackSDCardSlot

And #bringbackopticalaudio

 

[8692574]

#bringbackfloppydisk oh wait....

 

[Zarniwoop]

If AMD could add support for GDDR5X memory for Radeon Pro 560, it could give quite a nice boost with same thermal envelope. But there was no sign of that in the desktop 5x0 series. So highly unlikely.

 

[ggibson913]

Still not worth the money.

 

[gnasher729]

You guys are incredible. If apple doesn't update you complain. If apple does update, you complain. You might be happier with a windows machine.

In this case, I suppose "you are incredible" means "you have no credibility whatsoever".

Still not worth the money.

Take Larry's advice.

 

[asiga]

Hopefully they'll update the Macbook 12". I'm in need of replacing my Macbook Air 13" 2012 model.

I'm in a similar scenario (with a late 2010 MBA), but, however, I feel there's no successor for the 13'' MBA which would really tempt me. My 13'' MBA weighs 1.3 Kg. It's been 6 years from that, so I'd expect that I could buy a display bigger than 13'' with a weight of 1.3 Kg, or at least that a 13'' display would be lighter than 1.3 Kg.

But the only options are either the 12'' MB (yes, only 1 Kg but you lose 1 inch of display), or the 13'' MBP (which has the same weight as my MBA, but has no magsafe, no standard USB, and no CUDA-compatible GPU -my MBA has an NVIDIA GPU that can run CUDA code).

I'd really love a 15'' MB (if the 12'' MB has a weight of 1 Kg, I guess a 15'' MB could have a weight very similar to my 13'' MBA, and that would be a really worthy purchase).

Alternatively, if they add an NVIDIA GPU to the next 15'' MBP, I could consider it interesting even if it's not as light as my MBA, because it would allow me to write and debug CUDA code.

 

[simonmet]

When was the last time Apple brought back a feature they removed?
I'm serious. I don't recall.

Backlighting on the MacBook Air keyboard for one!

 

[shaunp]

I'm not hoping for much other than another thin and light laptop that wouldn't suit my needs. I think my money will be going on a Lenovo P51. I've had it with thin and light laptops as they just don't perform - Apple don't have enough RAM and the Dell XPS 15/5510 supports 32GB, but doesn't like to be pushed that hard.

 

[gnasher729]

Bought one literally on this day 6 months ago. My first time ever buying a computer. 2 and a half grand. 3 hour battery. Half a year into it's life, cast aside by the company that made it.

For the first thing: Open "Activity Monitor", select the "Energy" tab which will tell you exactly what apps are eating your battery. For the second thing: Yeah, Apple are evil. The moment they release a new model, the old one just stops working. If you take it to an Apple Store, they just kick you out. Wait, no, it doesn't stop working, and you get the same service as everyone else, for many years. My home MacBook is now six years old. Works better than when it was brand new.

 

[MH01]

Was a time I would have unreservedly recommended the Mac, today I pretty much discount it, becoming more and more compromised fashion orientated devices...

Q-6

Agree with you mate. I'm sorted with my current macs for the next 5 years. Though I have little interested in the overpriced fashion accessories they are becoming.

I gave up waiting for a new Mac mini and bought a skull canyon with a core, it's a real computer capable of doing so much while the current Mac mini is such a gimped machine.

Also can't recommend a new mac to my friends , still recommend an older one, that is value for money, not Cooks overpriced offerings

 

[dan9700]

to me wwdc is software only I think everyone is gonna be upset, and they just released the MacBook Pro 6 months ago

 

[gnasher729]

Im gonna say it...but I have to say it....


I JUST SPENT 4 THOUSAND DOLLARS ON A TOP OF THE LINE VERSION OF THIS MACBOOK TWO MONTHS AGO!

AND IT GETS DEVALUED ALREADY?!?!?!?!

Oh no, you didn't. You went to the App Store and checked that the most expensive version (with 2TB SSD and so on) costs $4.299. And then you looked at your bank account and saw that you needed to save another $4,298 to buy one. So instead you went on eBay and bought a "picture of a 4 thousand dollars top of the line MacBook"
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Apple doesn't care because MBP sales could drop off a cliff and Apple would still be doing very well, especially compared to most/all of their competitors. Apple has a primary priority and the MacBook isn't it and probably never will be again.

Actually Apple cares, because they make more money from MBP sales than all the other manufacturers combined, and more money than all other phone manufacturers combined.

The problem with the average MacRumors reader is that they are not the average Mac customer. They complain about things that the average customer doesn't complain or care about. You can see that from their crazy comments how the MBP is a total failure, while in reality it is selling great.

 

[Christoffee]

Better yet, update the 2015 chassis with Kaby Lake. Leaving all the ports, slots, and connections alone.

Macbook SE! Keep the old form factor and upgrade the internals.

 

[SAIRUS]

32 gig ram, and I'll be there...

...watch them make it a dual core CPU.

 

[mattopotamus]

My guess would be a spec bump and a no TB version.

 

[Pangalactic]

while in reality it is selling great.

Not really.

Apple sold a record 78.3 million iPhones during the quarter, up slightly from 74.8 million a year earlier, while Mac sales rose slightly to 5.4 million units from 5.3 million units in the year-ago quarter.

So basically a brand new machine of a model that a lot of people wanted and which hasn't been updated for a year and a half (so a huge amount of customers would be looking forward to an upgrade) is selling only a 100,000 copies more then the year-ago quarter. That is not what is called great. Combined with the fact that Apple doesn't disclose the proportion of the sales that the old macbooks comprise.

 

[Zarniwoop]

Macbook SE! Keep the old form factor and upgrade the internals.

Macbook SE sounds like the new name of the next Macbook Air.

 

[bobob]

Was a time I would have unreservedly recommended the Mac, today I pretty much discount it, becoming more and more compromised fashion orientated devices...

Q-6

What do you recommend now that offers better pro-rated annual value (including lost time for troubleshooting)?

 

[576316]

You mean a Hackintosh build? I'd pay really good money for one with a Thunderbolt 2 equipped MOBO.

I was gonna build a Hackintosh, but I need too many Windows-only programs, and I don't want to be restricted on game titles. Dual booting is a bit of a pain, so I'll probably keep it as a Windows 10 machine for time being. Depends if anything announced at WWDC, in terms of macOS, really appeals to me to the point I just need to run macOS.

 

[Atlantico]

It's a 35W TDP chip. There's no other option available. Not even from Nvidia. Apple wont redesign the case, they just released it and they cannot shoehorn anything stronger there...

Only thing they can do is lower the price. The Radeon Pro 460 is not a bad chip. For 35W, it's quite remarkable.

What I expect is that AMD will rebrand Pro 460 --> Pro 560 and lower the price.

The Radeon Pro 460 is in fact the full size Polaris 11, which was not available to the general public or OEMs until the RX 560 was released recently.

The RX 460 for the PC was a cut down Polaris 11. The full Polaris 11 die is only now available on PCs as the RX 560.

RadeonPro 460 = Radeon RX 560

AMD gave Apple almost a year's head start with their top-of-the-line mobile GPU, exclusively. Clearly AMD and Apple are very close. Not surprising, seeing as Raja Koduri, head of AMD Radeon Group used to work at Apple. So did Mark Papermaster the AMD CTO.

 

[jaredm1]

Phil Schiller & co.: let's see if you try to fob everyone off again with battery life and logic board redesign BS.

Here's one thing I hope they remember:
MacBook - for consumers - go sell them the super thin, great battery life machines
MacBook Pro - for professionals - why try to fob this segment off with the same?! Only a nut job would do that - its like Mercedes bringing out a new S-Class that's exactly the same shape and size as an A-Class and telling customers 'well we had to do it like that so you'd get good gas mileage and can park in tight spaces easily'. I don't have strong enough words to explain THAT kind of stupid.

Here are examples of 'Pro' notebooks: http://www.dell.com/uk/p/xps-15-9560-laptop/pd?oc=cnx95605&model_id=xps-15-9560-laptop and http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=T7W06ET&opt=ABU&sel=NTB

I switched to Macs in 2001 and the only Windows PCs I touched were the occasional ones I'd be given by work clients. However, after over 15 years of being a happy Mac customer I don't buy into their delusions.

If they want to dumb down and forget about the MacPro and MacBook Pro and retarget them as over-priced nonsense aimed at more-money-than-sense consumers then go ahead. They can do it without my money! My 2011 MBP has been due for a replacement since last year (I replace all my Apple hardware every 3 years) and I've held off long enough (let's face it, no Mac user really wants to go back to Windows). But I'm left with no choice, I need more RAM and compute to run increasing number of virtual machines for work and the Windows laptops can handle that.

 

[ThunderSkunk]

The big reveal @ this even will be a $6000 iMac w/ touchbar keyboard.

Can't wait.

 

[satchmo]

I wonder how many 2012 Quad Core Mac Mini's are still in use by Apple internally, you would think that software devs within Apple would be getting annoyed at the hardware themselves. Do they use any of the base models of iMac and Mac Mini, any of the machines that still ship with hard drives?! It really interests me the internal hardware arrangements they have. Surely it can't be overpriced Mac Pro's and discontinued Apple Cinema Displays?!

#bringbackquadcoremacmini

 

[NinjaHERO]

Excited to see the new machines. I wonder if these will be too "soon" to show Apple's recommitment to Pro users. Maybe we have to wait until the next refresh?