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Does anyone have any info on logic board failure rates, eg have they declined since 2012 or have they increased since Apple went on a soldering frenzy?

Purely anecdotal, but I've not had to have main board replacements on a 2007 and 2011 machine, but not since (in both cases eGPU). So 2 out of 5 of my pre-2012 machines, and 0-5 of my 2012 and up machines.

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And what good is the "fastest drive" when it's full?

Just put all your stuff in the cloud! Duh! :)

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There are plenty of instances where data WILL be lost. Unless you're using a constant replication method (you wont be) there is always the risk of loss.

That is why all data I am working on is always apart of my cloud drive. Every time I click Ctrl+S and I have Internet a copy is uploaded to my Cloud with a max of 10 version history for now. :)
 
I really can't agree with your characterization as "throwaway computers." The simple truth is that the vast majority of computer users do NOT upgrade their computers.
As for upgrade... aren't you not better off just upgrading the whole computer? Unlike PC's... Macs hold great resale value. I would venture to say that you can resell your current computer, and buy the newer model (with increased space) for not too much more than buying the components to upgrade your machine. Problem solved.

I really can't understand this argument at all. Mac's used to hold great resale value - because the desirable models (circa 2012) are the last decent models Apple made. Generally the hardware would last for a long time, and they could be picked up on eBay and given a new lease of life by upgrading the RAM and fitting an SSD. Or some sellers upgraded the RAM and SSD themselves, installed a fresh new OS and had a nice machine on their hands to sell. It's no coincidence that second hand 2012 Mac Mini's are going for the same price (or higher in some cases) than the brand new Mac Mini models - because they are very desirable machines compared to the neutered Mac Mini's Apple is selling these days. Only time will tell what the resale value of these 2016 MacBook Pros will be. We won't know this until 3-5 years down the line, when these things start popping up on Ebay. The only reason they will be desirable, is if Apple decides to yet-again dumb down the next version of the MacBook Pro and make another stupid design decision, like removing the keyboard and trackpad, and replacing it with a holographic projection that responds to gestures on your desk (preventing it from being used on your lap, or on the train...)
 
That is why all data I am working on is always apart of my cloud drive. Every time I click Ctrl+S and I have Internet a copy is uploaded to my Cloud with a max of 10 version history for now. :)

That's great for small documents and when you have internet access. Sadly, internet access is not available all the time for all people, not to mention fast access.
 
You lose all your data (that you have been working on)

It's implied, but thanks for trying to manipulate what I said.


It's not implied at all.

ALL my data and "data I've recently been working on" are not the same thing at all. Not even close.
 
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That's great for small documents and when you have internet access. Sadly, internet access is not available all the time for all people, not to mention fast access.

If you have no continuous backup, you lose data regardless of whether the drive is soldered or slotted.

Back up your stuff, using a comprehensive strategy.
 
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So I guess Apple isn't giving you a credit for the 256gb drive they took out?
You do understand Apple doesn't actually remove a 256GB drive from a computer and recycle it to add your1 TB to your BTO laptop, right? I like how you round numbers up and down and yeah, perhaps here in Canada we are seeing better prices. I was, admittedly, looking at the upgrade on the 15" from 512GB to 1TB. No matter how you manipulate numbers the Apple drives are not, as so many are saying, costing an extra Apple Tax but rather include an Apple Discount.
 
If you have no continuous backup, you lose data regardless of whether the drive is soldered or slotted.

Back up your stuff, using a comprehensive strategy.

We aren't talking about a drive loss. We are talking about a logic board failure which now means you also will "lose" the data. Tons of instances that I have personally removed a disk from a "failed" system, connected it to another and recovered the data. In fact this is a frequent concern of some of my clients. This would mean that data is gone but the SSD itself is fine.
 
Wait, so now because it's a portable computer it should not have the ability to add external storage.


Good one.

No, really.

If you have carry the external storage with you (along with all the dongles), it ruin the point of having a more portable computer.
 
Forget the SSD stuff, why is there so much empty space around the batteries? Apple has terraced batteries in the MacBook since its launch last year, no reason to port the tech over to the other devices.
 
If the logic board fails and the SSD is soldered, I would be losing data.

Now, the argument that Apple apologists would make is: "Well, why don't you backup your data more often?"

That is completely irrelevant.

If the SSD isn't soldered, I could put the SSD in an enclosure and recover the data.
 
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If the logic board fails and the SSD is soldered, I would be losing data.

Now, the argument that Apple apologists would make is: "Well, why don't you backup your data more often?"

That is completely irrelevant.

If the SSD isn't soldered, I could put the SSD in an enclosure and recover the data.

Again, comes down to your lack of ability to responsibly manage your data. That's totally on you. 100%.
 
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