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So, everyone complaining has, in fact, previously replaced the SSD on their Apple notebooks, right? You're not just whining about the inability to do something you've never previously done, right?
Yes, I have. It was finally economical and easy.
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I think they return the boards to Apple who refurbishes them, or that is what they do with the 2011's.
Not from what I have seen.
 
Londer heathrow always stop me for an extra few minutes for the MBP , lol
Weird, never had a problem with mine at Heathrow but the boys at JFK were very wary of it. Maybe these new emoji bars will allow me to more effectively express my dissatisfaction with the TSA.
 
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Really starting to hate Tim Cook's Apple. These new MacBook Pros are overpriced consumer level trash. I really wish there were better options in terms of Hackintosh laptops because that's where I think I'm heading. I still have the 2012 Non-Retina MBP and I have a 1TB SSD, a 2.5TB HDD, 16GB RAM, and a fairly decent video card. Nothing Apple has offered lately has seemed like an upgrade from what I'm already using and it doesn't look like that's about to change.
 
When my Asus C300 Chromebook's 16GB eMMC failed a couple months back... I thought no problem ill just open it up and replace it...to my dismay it to was onboard! I was forced to hunt down a $$$ motherboard on ebay.

Might give Macbook Pro Touchbar buyers pause!
 
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An interesting early review from Casey Neistat who is a big Apple fan but thinks the whole USB C thing is too far too fast. Video uploaded today and its already had 750,000 views! This guy is influential.

The negative vibes about the design choices Apple have made are not going away any time soon! Wonder when they will respond to this by actually listening to their customers needs rather than keep feeding us the rainbows and unicorns view of the world!?!
 
An interesting early review from Casey Neistat who is a big Apple fan but thinks the whole USB C thing is too far too fast. Video uploaded today and its already had 750,000 views! This guy is influential.

The negative vibes about the design choices Apple have made are not going away any time soon! Wonder when they will respond to this by actually listening to their customers needs rather than keep feeding us the rainbows and unicorns view of the world!?!
Thanks for joining just to provide this deep analysis.

Apple is selling a ton of these. Lots of people love them. Your needs are not necessarily the majority's needs. And every single complaint is identical to complaints that have been made about every apple product for years, and yet they seem to be doing fine.
 
Interesting thread.
I used to do all kinds of repairs and upgrades on my cars/trucks years ago. Spark Plugs, coils, carbs, etc. Now I look under the hood of today's cars and I'm happy to not worry about tinkering because for the most part, I can't. Thankfully, this tinkering is no longer necessary and engineers keep you out of areas you may not need to be. In the mean time they have made it more efficient for the task it was made for.

That is the sort of engineering there is on computers these days. Many notebooks from all manufacturers have adopted fixed memory and/or storage. Apple is not unique in this regard. But usually it's faster, more efficient, more reliable and much smaller than what we are used to. It's progress in technology. The TV tube people had the same arguments 30 years ago about solid state. Rest assured you prefer solid state to tubes (audiophiles are an exception :)).

I suggest you buy the best configuration for your needs, buy the extra warranty if it makes you comfortable, and know that within a few years, your purchased has devalued a ton and it may be time to upgrade, whether it still works or not. Can't stop progress. I'm not sure you want to either.

I don't give Apple a pass though. The Mac mini "improvements" were not needed in that form factor. Same applies to non upgradable memory/storage (without opening) of the iMac of recent. No need to have done that. At. All. It's liberating to know how much I can expand my new Dell XPS desktop. But I expect that in a desktop. My MacBook Pro with soldered ram and pretty much fixed SSD is fine for how I use it.

My two cents.
 
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Apple does business in cloud computing, y'know. You can always pay an extra $1-20/month for 50GB-2TB of iCloud storage. :D


Share how you would store a virtual machine and my local test SQL database within in and all my work tools and development platforms (which my apps are linked to) will save on the iCloud.

Please enlighten me, this is where the 'Pro' label comes in. The laptop is far from a Pro laptop.
 
Thanks for joining just to provide this deep analysis.

Apple is selling a ton of these. Lots of people love them. Your needs are not necessarily the majority's needs. And every single complaint is identical to complaints that have been made about every apple product for years, and yet they seem to be doing fine.
Well thank you for your sarcastic response to why I joined and the reality that I am not providing any analysis (which seems to be lost on you) but simply providing a link to a Youtuber who has well over 5 million followers.

So when you say the complaints he raises are the same complaints that have been made about every Apple product for years, really.....? That's funny because I don't remember the adapter / dongle issue coming out about the last generation MB Pro which had 6 different kinds of connectors including mag safe, display port, USB A, headphone (with optical out), SD slot and HDMI. Did people gripe, sure but they also realized that there were enough ports to make it work in the now. The reality for anyone buying one of these units now is that they have to buy at least one and probably a handful of adapters just to do what they need to do everyday in connecting to USB A devices, cameras (SD Card), TV's, projectors, their current Apple displays, and the list goes on and on and on.

If you actually watched the video you would see him putting this point across pretty forcefully. So if you think that someone like Casey who has over 5 million followers is talking BS, you are deluded! This guy is mainstream and very influential in forming opinions. It doesn't matter what my opinion is, just people like him and if he is saying that Microsoft is being more progressive than Apple (which he does when talking about using touch interfaces) then there is a big issue!!
 
Thanks for joining just to provide this deep analysis.

Apple is selling a ton of these. Lots of people love them. Your needs are not necessarily the majority's needs. And every single complaint is identical to complaints that have been made about every apple product for years, and yet they seem to be doing fine.


The Dual-Core downgrade for the mac mini was a surprise.

Did they have a current contract they didn't want to buy out of? Or had a surplus of dual core processors? Why they downgraded and refuse to upgrade their hardware is beyond me.

Or is it their notion that the "MacOS" is so optimized we don't need more powerful processors nor the ram?
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Thanks for joining just to provide this deep analysis.

Apple is selling a ton of these. Lots of people love them. Your needs are not necessarily the majority's needs. And every single complaint is identical to complaints that have been made about every apple product for years, and yet they seem to be doing fine.

Lots of people love them because this is what the 'Macbook' should of been, not the Pro
 
Not true at all. The damage being repaired can't be your fault (or the cost is higher). I've had mainboard and a screen replaced for $310 where I've had a dent and chips in the case. (two different occasions). I'm sure it helps to be polite.
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Suddenly, after all these years, they are going to stop it? Ok.
Businesses tend to pass cost increases on to the consumer, while Apple has just created a very expensive single board without any replaceable components. So yes, I expect flat rate to go up as a result.

OK?
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So, everyone complaining has, in fact, previously replaced the SSD on their Apple notebooks, right? You're not just whining about the inability to do something you've never previously done, right?
Replaced and upgraded anything from MacBooks to data center equipment for years. Thanks for asking.
 
Don't worry. Buy their new book for 300$ and you will understand why all of this.

lol. I just saw that!
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OMG. People. Failure of your SSD is such a minuscule possibility that it is completely not worth worrying about. Odds are you and 10,000 of your friends could buy this machine and never experience a SSD failure.

For the last time, that's not the issue here.

The issue is that if any component soldered to the logic board fails, you are SOL.

The SSD might be fine, but Apple will probably replace the LB, so there goes your data.

You better have FileVault on for sure too, and encrypt EVERYTHING.

So now we're talking about compounding the failure rate of every single component on the LB.

That's a whole 'nother ball game.

Still, as someone else pointed out, this is not stopping anyone. Apple knows their sheep well.
 
Businesses tend to pass cost increases on to the consumer, while Apple has just created a very expensive single board without any replaceable components. So yes, I expect flat rate to go up as a result.

OK?

They've had this issue to some extent for a long time. This is not the first device they make with stuff soldered to the mainboard. They price it such that between the markup on the machine and the failure rates of board components, and the money they can save on salvageable board parts, the $310 is enough.
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Lots of people love them because this is what the 'Macbook' should of been, not the Pro

Says who? We bought two to replace existing MBPs. You don't get to define what "Pro" means.
 
They've had this issue to some extent for a long time. This is not the first device they make with stuff soldered to the mainboard. They price it such that between the markup on the machine and the failure rates of board components, and the money they can save on salvageable board parts, the $310 is enough.
Possible and hopeful but not certain. iPhone component parts list pricing is a long ways away from the new MBPs. Beyond my personal dis-satisfaction with the current model in its present form, I hope you're right.
 
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