I really wanted magsafe to return. I simply don't understand why apple wouldn't bring it back. My 2012 15inch is hanging in there but if it dies I may try to get a 2015 or another 2012.
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16-Inch MacBook Pro Available Today at Apple Stores in United States With Pickup Reservation
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The 16” uses a dedicated GPU, not the integrated Intel video that the 13” MBP uses.
From what I can tell, 45W 10nm parts are in the 2021 or even 2022 timeframe. The next upgrade for the 16” will be Comet Lake, due next summer.
Wouldn't this would only be a major benefit for MBP 13" (14"!?) laptops with no discrete GPU? Surely today's AMD Radeon Pro 5500M in the MPB 16" will wipe the floor with Intel's forthcoming Ice Lake chips – so even if we had Ice Lake in today's MPB 16" no one would use its video crunching abilities?
I don’t need one but I want to buy one, even just as a way to thank Apple for caring about the MacBook again
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Apple never let me down in almost any launch of new product to replace the old one. This one is not exception. Very great new feature.
However,
Well... if I ever have the right to navigate some aspect of the new product development (just in my little dream, of course), I would try to make the current MacBook Pro lighter and smaller. Reason is I often move my Macbook a lot. (lol I m too selfish, improve just for me
My little boy that I use every days, even every hours is a 15 inch late 2013 (old USB port) and I really love it. Been waiting to make a big jump to skip 1 generation (Touch Bar) to go for this new one 16 inch. But the weight just make me stand back and thing again.
Go buy a MacBook Air or iPadPro.
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Yep, the more users who make their voice heard about the Mac line the more Apple will pay attention to it. That is why i use Apple feedback page to let them know what i like and what i don't like. Apple make so much money on the iPhones that they can take the extra money they make for R&D for Mac systems. Want a Mac Mini Pro, ask them for it. Want to be able to replace SSD storage tell what you think. Why did Apple fix the keyboard and make it better? Why did Apple increase the memory to 64gb?, why did Apple work with Nvidia to put in the latest GPU? Whey did they make larger internal SSD storage? The answer is users feedback to Apple what they wanted to see in a computer.
So it IS Apple who is making the decision to hold off and not Intel. The technology is available now.
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I don't understand the continued obsession with magsafe in a day where you can charge from a ubiquitous USB port. Apple is 100% right to nix it.
They won't bring it back because:
1) It's a dedicated port.
2) It added cost and weight to the machine.
3) It caused way too many customer service cases (dirty ports, broken chargers).
Consumers shouldn't want it back because:
1) The chargers were proprietary, fragile, and expensive.
2) It was only on one side of the machine.
3) You can add it back for $20 with an adapter if you really want it.
I never said it wasn’t lol. Of course the technology is available now, Apple has it on iPhone 11. But no, Intel doesn’t offer it on the 9th gen CPUs.
Like I said, if you think you need it, don’t buy the 2019 16” MBP. There are some nice PCs you can buy, that might be your best option.
I have a WIFI 6 router and yes it would have been nice to have it but it did not have me hold back. Most users only connect to the Internet so having a super duper fast WIFI connection would be cool, it is not a show stopper. It has DFS channels which you still has a great speed with WIFI and you get a less crowded DFS WIFI channels. Will get it on my next Macbook Pro in 5 to 6 years or if I want it bad enough i will just get a external adapter 3 years down the road or more.
Just unboxed the premium in store model. One store in the area got them...the others are showing nov 27. That's the 2.4/8gb gpu/32 ram/2tb model. while its migrating, here are some initial thoughts comparing to the 2018 its replacing.
Noticeably heaver...not a complaint, and not bad, but you can tell it's beefier. Ditto on the power supply. The thinner is always better jony era is over.
Still no 3 prong extension cord....cheapskates.
love 👍👍👍 the new keyboard. like an old friend coming home. The keyboard well is deeper and the keys smaller, so there will be an adjustment, especially going back and forth with my work machine (2019 13").
screen feels bigger and crisper
migration via target disk mode running at 90meg/s over thunderbolt 3 so they still haven't fixed that problem, but it's not something I do everyday so not that big a deal.
ill post back on performance and sound when the migration is done.
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and shorts. I've pulled a number of staples out of MagSafe sockets sockets that showed clear signs of arcing. With all the fire issues, ill lay dollars to donuts that's the real reason it's gone.
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exactly, unless you're moving large files around your home WiFi, or running in a very congested area, it won't make a difference, even with gig internet. And the congestion only really gets better once almost all the other networks and clients have it.
Noticeably heaver...not a complaint, and not bad, but you can tell it's beefier. Ditto on the power supply. The thinner is always better jony era is over.
Still no 3 prong extension cord....cheapskates.
love 👍👍👍 the new keyboard. like an old friend coming home. The keyboard well is deeper and the keys smaller, so there will be an adjustment, especially going back and forth with my work machine (2019 13").
screen feels bigger and crisper
migration via target disk mode running at 90meg/s over thunderbolt 3 so they still haven't fixed that problem, but it's not something I do everyday so not that big a deal.
ill post back on performance and sound when the migration is done.
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and shorts. I've pulled a number of staples out of MagSafe sockets sockets that showed clear signs of arcing. With all the fire issues, ill lay dollars to donuts that's the real reason it's gone.
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exactly, unless you're moving large files around your home WiFi, or running in a very congested area, it won't make a difference, even with gig internet. And the congestion only really gets better once almost all the other networks and clients have it.
This does not apply to customizable versions. I selected the base model with 32gbs of ram and I have a delivery expectation of Nov. 25-27th.
Depends what you’re up to really. We threw on a 4k FCP project, left background rendering on for a laugh and it ate it up! Keyboard/Display are both awesome.
It's Apple's implementation overall that makes it unavailable. Putting the blame on Intel seems to shift the blame. It's unreasonable to expect Intel to have the technology, which is rather new in final format, to be in the current CPUs. Apple sticking soldered on components and not offering a M2 slot for WIFI is on Apple not Intel.
If people buy these laptops to last for years, the lack of it will matter in a year or two as the standard is rolled out.
There are indeed a great number of PCs which offer stack up quite well against the Macbook Pro. I don't suffer the delusion that Macs are unreasonably priced when comparing equivalent specifications.
What is generally lacking in the PC world is a decent working ratio for screens. Most makers have embraced the bad for most work scenarios 16x9 aspect ratio. PCs do however handle MST MUCH better than Apple who ignores it. As far as I can tell there are two makers who offer machines that don't use it, Apple and Microsoft. Google seems to be embracing 16x9 in their new laptops.
Hopefully Microsoft will include TB in the next iteration of their lineup. I appreciate their use of AMD, but that choice limits the acceptance of TB until it's more widely implemented.
I have no antipathy towards Windows and Windows 10 has been solid for me. My experience with Apple has been frustrating. The bad taste in my mouth the Mac mini is giving me makes me leery of buying anything else out of Cupertino. Currently, there is ONE aspect of using my Mac that I prefer over Windows. It's a great oversight on the part of Microsoft but Apple did it well.
At some point MagSafe might return but don't count on it anytime soon. USB-C charging is here to stay.
I'm still rockin my mid-2009 13-inch MBP. It's 2.53GHz Core 2 Duo with 8GB ram, Nvidia GeForce 9400M graphics, 1Tb SSD, and beautiful chicklet keys. This machine is still amazing and has PORTS GALORE. Apple offered me $40 trade-in for it. Haha! no.
This 16" MBP is a good move in the right direction though. Bring back MagSafe, illuminated apple logo, and at least one USB3 port and you'll get my money.
This 16" MBP is a good move in the right direction though. Bring back MagSafe, illuminated apple logo, and at least one USB3 port and you'll get my money.
MagSafe won't be back unless they can make it work with USB-C. The Apple logo is cosmetic and serves no actual function. USB-C is backwards compatible with USB3.
screen sizes are always reported in inches no matter the country, unless it’s France where it’s the law.
little known fact is that the UK still uses the imperial system, especially for driving.
Apple store in Cincinnati had them on display, I tried. And then pulled the trigger.
They actually had one sitting right next to the 13’ MacBook Pro so I could test the differences very easily. It’s night and day IMO. Much quieter and satisfying.
Took them long enough!
How many times I avoided that my MacBook should crash to the floor thanks to MagSafe!
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This release I so close to Black Friday. Isn’t it worth waiting to see whether apple discount the 16 inch then ? Or offer a sweetener of some kind
Received mine a few hours ago, migrating from a Macbook Pro 15 Mid 2014.
Keyboard feels great, a little less travel compared to my old keyboard. Screen is great, trackpad is massive.
But the speakers... the speakers are so great. Watched some trailers on YouTube, they sound amazing!
Keyboard feels great, a little less travel compared to my old keyboard. Screen is great, trackpad is massive.
But the speakers... the speakers are so great. Watched some trailers on YouTube, they sound amazing!