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"Shipping out to Boston"; a most excellent tune by the Dropkick Murphys. Enjoy your new Mac!
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FYI everyone. If you head over to Amazon's web site - in the U.S. anyway - they have the 2019 15" base model with an i7 processor, 16GB RAM and 256GB SSD for $1,999 (normally $2,399) or $400 off! I was just going to order the new 16" and pick it up at my local Apple Store but after seeing this deal on Amazon I'm going for that instead.
Not bad a all, that pays for Applecare for three years on the machine and it still is a good computer.
It wouldn't make any sense to switch back to integrated graphics when they have dGPU's that are many times more powerful now. Your linked article basically says Ice Lake isn't much faster at all in the real world.
Ice Lake is only important for the 13" MBP, not the 16"
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backlit apple logo...really? i guess some people really want the world to know that they bought a mac...
I mainly frustrated about the SSD not even for personally upgrading it but just because even Apple themselves can’t sell you an aftermarket upgrade for it.
It’s not unreasonable to expect you might buy a 512/1 TB model and down the road realize you really need a lot more storage for your work or some needs change or something.
It’s totally nuts that you would have to buy a completely new laptop just to address that.
A socketed SSD connection would be really nice. Even if it were a proprietary socket, it’d be better to have the optionality down the line.
(sorry, externals suck and I exclude that from this as a defense)
It’s not unreasonable to expect you might buy a 512/1 TB model and down the road realize you really need a lot more storage for your work or some needs change or something.
It’s totally nuts that you would have to buy a completely new laptop just to address that.
A socketed SSD connection would be really nice. Even if it were a proprietary socket, it’d be better to have the optionality down the line.
(sorry, externals suck and I exclude that from this as a defense)
😬 Well, the turbo boost is 5.0GHz vs. 4.8GHz so there’s that.
But with the improved cooling, especially at less than 100% load we might end up being surprised. The thermal performance hasn’t been characterized, it really is workload specific. For instance we may find out the 2.4/5.0 will hangout at 3.4 where the 2.3/4.8 will be 3.0 or 3.2 Or there may basically be no difference.
Can’t say yet, maybe it’ll turn out to be a happy mistake... glass half full and all
If nothing else it'll likely help with resell value
External SSD drives are so small, when i am going to need more storage, i am going to get a thunderbolt 3 external unit. Plenty of transfer speed and can move large files from one computer to the other very quickly.
Right, for most tasks. But Ice Lake offers more graphic speed (increasingly important) for crunching 4K video. And it’s optimized for H265 4K — meaning, among other things, faster color correction and rendering. If you’re into 4K video, Ice Lake is definitely worth waiting for. If you’re not into cut-edge video, Ice Lake isn’t so important.
Ice Lake should run cooler with its 10mm architecture. Coupled with the new and better thermals of the 16in MacBook Pro, there should be less throttling, and that sucker should really fly for all processor-intensive tasks.
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Sorry that’s not a defense of soldering everything down
It would be nice to have upgradable drive, but they are not cheap to upgrade. And Apple's soldered on drive prices dropped a lot in a since the 2019 15". Working off memory I believe the prices to upgrade drives size on the 2019 16" are about 50-60% of what they were for the 2019 15". I am not seeing that sort of price decrease on NVMe modules.
6 months from now AMD will have even a faster mobile processor than the integrated graphics that is how it goes. There is always something new every 6 months. But the 5500M with 8gigs is fantastic and with a Razor EGPU box you can upgrade the desktop graphics with AMD or maybe Nivida with their super duper card desktop graphics card to have more longevity with your current laptop system you own.
Yup, they do. Just saw one in an Apple store this morning.
This is focusing on the wrong point.
It has nothing to do with price but rather simply the ability to do it if you need to.
When the only alternative is use external or buy a completely new machine it’s just ridiculous.
And other manufacturers have shown us that it is not a necessary thing to be at this thinness level. Apple is choosing to do this, not being required to do it.
I’m not even arguing for it on all machines but on the pro oriented 16 inch model that is thicker and bigger than before, this would’ve been a nice change.
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Apple is apparently waiting for Intel 10th gen CPUs, which include integrated support for WiFi 6. Anyone who thinks they need it should not buy the 2019 16”.
If Apple does a 2020 summer/ fall refresh with Comet Lake the 16” will have it.
It’s not really a matter of playing the waiting game. Video producers face a real bottle neck with today’s Coffee Lake processors. Ice Lake promises dramatic improvements for video editors. That‘s certainly, for us, worth waiting for.
We’re not talking about an eight or ten percent increase in crunching power, like this new 16in design squeezes from the same processor appearing in the last model. The speed improvements released in a few months with Ice Lake promise to be much more dramatic, and worth the wait.
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Screen sizes are almost always measured in inches all over global markets. It's like wheels and tires and their global standard for measurements: Wheels diameter and width are inches, mounting offset is in millimeters, backspacing is in inches. Tires width is millimeters, sidewall height is % of width, center / wheel opening diameter is inches. Here in the USA we live in a blissfully ignorant wonderland of mixed standards of measure.
Actually, thats exactly the point. If SSD is smaller, cheaper and faster then why it only makes sense to make it internal (or even user replaceable).
BTW. Im not arguing because that external SSD is the setup I had. A base model MBP13 128GB and a $100 1B SSD that I velcro on the lid. While the setup works, its pretty ridiculous.
Or you buy one now, use it for 6 months and sell it, Macbook Pro units hold their value in the resale market.
What's your definition of "hold their value"?
(certainly you'll want to get a great deal up front also, because you'll be selling against 3rd party authorized sellers having discounts on new ones all the time)
What i would do it put in a request for a new Mac Mini Pro system where you could add interal PCI devices and upgrade SSD drives. Something that is around the price of a higher macbook pro but lower than a macpro. Apple does not read your mind, that is why they have the Apple feedback page. https://www.apple.com/feedback/
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Apple never let me down in almost any launch of new product to replace the old one. This one is not exception. Very great new feature.
However,
Well... if I ever have the right to navigate some aspect of the new product development (just in my little dream, of course), I would try to make the current MacBook Pro lighter and smaller. Reason is I often move my Macbook a lot. (lol I m too selfish, improve just for me ) The previous generation have an improvement of reducing 10% weight compare to the old one. When this new MacBook Pro come out, I would also expect of another improvement of about 10% again. So it would be about 1.65kg ~ 3.6 lb . But... OUCH ! ! ! Seeing the new weight like a punch in my head, and my heart lol. 2kg. But it is what it is. I can't change.
My little boy that I use every days, even every hours is a 15 inch late 2013 (old USB port) and I really love it. Been waiting to make a big jump to skip 1 generation (Touch Bar) to go for this new one 16 inch. But the weight just make me stand back and thing again.
Apple never let me down in almost any launch of new product to replace the old one. This one is not exception. Very great new feature.
However,
Well... if I ever have the right to navigate some aspect of the new product development (just in my little dream, of course
), I would try to make the current MacBook Pro lighter and smaller. Reason is I often move my Macbook a lot. (lol I m too selfish, improve just for me ) The previous generation have an improvement of reducing 10% weight compare to the old one. When this new MacBook Pro come out, I would also expect of another improvement of about 10% again. So it would be about 1.65kg ~ 3.6 lb . But... OUCH ! ! ! Seeing the new weight like a punch in my head, and my heart lol. 2kg. But it is what it is. I can't change. My little boy that I use every days, even every hours is a 15 inch late 2013 (old USB port) and I really love it. Been waiting to make a big jump to skip 1 generation (Touch Bar) to go for this new one 16 inch. But the weight just make me stand back and thing again.