Same model. No way were they going to do a new model a month after the 13” update. This will hold until December at the earliest. Maybe earlier to coincide w a new OS but unlikely I think.
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16-Inch MacBook Pro Now Available With Up to 75% Faster Radeon Pro 5600M Graphics
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Welcome to Apple update heartbreak.
Looking forward to my shiny i9 iMac to look like a museum piece in a week.
This is probably it for the MacBook Air and Pro lineup as far as Intel goes. No point adding 10th gen to the 16". Apple will only need to compare any new Macs with their own CPUs to the previous gen Mac, not whatever CPUs Intel has put out since then. It'll be easier in 2021 to compare to 2019s 9th gen CPUs.
Peculiar upgrade when other components are left untouched.
Also, it's quite an extra expense - $1200 AUD.
Also, it's quite an extra expense - $1200 AUD.
10th gen for mobile has slightly faster memory 2933MHz vs 2666MHz which has very little practical gains and a couple extra 100MHz on turbo boost and same base clocks. I really can't blame Apple for sticking with 9th gen. They likely even get a discount for helping clear out stock. 10th gen on desktop at least re-introduces Hyper-Threading which does have real world impacts.
Up to 75%*
I‘d imagine you’ll only see that 75% boost on tasks that are extremely memory bandwidth reliant.
And unless you need that much power truly mobile, you're well into eGPU territory, which are vastly faster...and upgradable!
Well duh obviously.... I knew it would be refreshed at some point this year, but I was just hoping it wouldn't come right after I got the most current version. My current 16" might not be slower, but it sure could be a hell of a lot faster for the same money I spent on the fastest graphics upgrade available at the time a month ago.
This move actually makes me feel good about my recent refurb purchase 2.3/32/1tb because hopefully it means there may not be an imminent 2020 update that I would feel buyers remorse about not waiting.
Also, appears that you can't do Apple Card payments on the refurbs, just new.
Also, appears that you can't do Apple Card payments on the refurbs, just new.
You have to pay an additional €1000 (in EU) for a 5.3 Tflop 5600M, hahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahah!
Tim is smoking low quality American crystals for sure!
Tim is smoking low quality American crystals for sure!
Why do they cheap out and still refuse to switch from the 5 or 6 year old Broadcom BCM 4360 based WiFi chips. The Intel Dual antenna 9265 and AX200 are both much faster and have better signal at long range, I updated my old Dell Latitude 7450 and XPS 15 (XPS came with the BCM4360) with an AX200 and they can hit 1200-1400 Mbps in real world transfers to my NAS and 1.1 Gbps on the internet side (CAX80 modem with a 2.5Gbps port + Comcast over-provisions their Gig profile.) My 16" on the other hand while not slow hits around 800 Mbps peak stabilizing at around 700-720 Mbps, and much worse than the Intel WiFi based laptops close to signal edge. Considering an AX200 costs end users/individuals $20-30 dependng on seller I'm sure Apple probably could get them cheaper on mass orders, especially for the cnvio versions (ie just the RF module aka 9265/AX201) since the WiFi chips are built into the CPU anyway and cnvio would work.
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Because we have an XPS that had an equivalent BCM4360 based WiFi card that performed similarly to the MBP'16, but the Intel card made it have better range and speeds overall. I mean why would you not want a better WiFi card in general like the AX200 especially in such a high end product. Considering it's $20-30 for end users it would actually be even cheaper for Apple due to bulk order, probably even cheaper if they got just the RF module instead of the full fledged chip since the 9th gen Intel CPU's have the WiFi chipset integrated anyway.
I think the problem is he's not catching your sarcasm lol
If you spend over 8K Euros for a laptop, I feel no sorry for you for the wi-fi. I am sure you will be able to afford an external solution (if there is one).
I would want the better WiFi card. I was asking why you like that Apple is staying with the older one.
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Yeah that's what I thought at first, but I always thought sarcasm was supposed to have a modicum of wit.
Oh that was sarcasm when I said "I like", sorry maybe I was not clear.🙁 EDIT - I de-sarcasmed that post now lol.
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Just realize that by October there will be another revision that will be substantial. I suggest everyone wait to upgrade until the very last Intel MacBook Pro is released which is around 2025.
Documented thread with benchmark scores since MBP16,1 release with RX5700XT in eGPU:
MBP16,1 with RX 5700 XT via eGPU (Reports, Issues & Benchmarks)
Been running some tests with an MBP16,1 configured with 2.4GHz, 5500M 8GB, 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD. Currently on 10.15.2. Have a Sonnet eGFX Breakaway Box 650 GPU-650WOC-TB3, which is the OC model that provides 100W power delivery (newest model). Been running a Sapphire Pulse RX 580 8GB in that...
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Get an eGPU instead! I wouldn't touch this 5600M with a 10ft pole. Probably even worse heat, fans noise, etc etc. No way no how...no thank you. Razer Core X + 5700XT !!
Honestly, that was my first thought. Unless I am mobile so much that lugging an eGPU around is prohibitive, I would go with the 8GB 5500M option and spend $700 on an eGPU box and either a Radeon VII, if you can find one, or a 5700XT until RDNA 2 GPUs are introduced and Apple includes support in a future version of macOS. $700-$800 just seems a bit ridiculous to me. I guess benchmarks and real world testing will tell us if it’s worth the extra expense.