Yeah, they probably won’t be updated until November. Just curious, as I’m on my last day to return too, you don’t have a use for this new dGPU or you don’t think it’s worth the upgrade price?
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Yeah, they probably won’t be updated until November. Just curious, as I’m on my last day to return too, you don’t have a use for this new dGPU or you don’t think it’s worth the upgrade price?
There is next to no demand for such a device.
Same... Typing this on an UltraFine 21.5" 4k right now, CPU is at 60C (I9 2.3) with fans at minimum.
Guess my waiting continues. This doesn't really qualify as a refresh, though. Just a single BTO option upgrade. This is still a 2019 16" MBP. They did something similar with the Vega 16 and Vega 20 options they added in November 2018. Then they refreshed it in May 2019. So we can likely expect a refresh this autumn.
These are the specs I'm hoping for:
These are the specs I'm hoping for:
- 8-core CPU, 10nm, would be even better if AMD 7nm but who am I kidding?
- 64GB RAM - done
- New Mini LED display - lots of rumors about this
- ProMotion display 120Hz refresh rate - if I can't get Mini LED, can I at least get this?
- Latest AMD GPU, high-end config with the high bandwidth memory like this new GPU, preferably Nvidia but who am I kidding?
- 4TB SSD, preferably with a price drop on SSDs, but probably not given the state of things. Might have to go 2TB if it's too expensive.
- WiFi 6. Should be easy enough to add at this point. Hoping to upgrade my home WiFi before the end of this year.
- Can we get PCI Express 4.0 yet? Then we could have Thunderbolt 4 80Gbps. Or is Thunderbolt dead? Will USB 4.0 be a thing by this autumn? Will USB 4.1 be 80Gbps if Thunderbolt isn't a thing?
- Would like a darker space gray or even black option. Solid white with white keys could also look slick.
- Make it a little thicker for ventilation and larger heat sinks, but who am I kidding?
- 4K front camera, but who am I kidding? We'll be lucky to get 1080p, and pumped to get 2K.
Intel performance is not closely related to ram speed. Only AMD is due to their chiplet architecture.
9th gen and 10th gen H are basically identical. A few 100 Mhz isn't doing you any good when you've got an even hotter chip.
These are silly things to complain about.
If you're a FCP user, maybe not impressive. DaVinci Resolve is significantly more performant. And, personally, I care about the impact of heat on the lifespan of the 16". With the eGPU, heat is dramatically lower.
Another "issue"...using Lightroom for his eGPU / photo tests. Capture One Pro does a far better job of utilizing multiple gpu's.
Also, it's extremely likely that the driver for the 5700XT has been updated since that video, due to the W5700X option now being available for the Mac Pro.
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Exactly, eGPU is great when playing a game or something, it has been less impressive with something like Final Cut. To be clear, that's with a 5700 eGPU too.
The RAM on the MBP 16 has twice the bandwidth compared to the RAM on the MBP 13" 2020 TB4. So, no, it is not that slow. Only AMD currently has PCIe 4.0. Four lanes of PCIe 3.0 is plenty for a GPU. Thunderbolt is a bidirectional electrical protocol, so it should not matter whether data goes forth-and-back. Said this, you will get better results with most apps if you connect the monitor to the eGPU.
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That’s a misleading oversimplification. How much an eGPU boosts performance depends on the application and what you’re doing.
looks like the Mac Pro SSD kits are in the store.
No pricing mentioned, but I full expect them to be priced high.
www.apple.com/shop/product/MXNN2AM/A/1tb-ssd-kit-for-mac-pro
No pricing mentioned, but I full expect them to be priced high.
www.apple.com/shop/product/MXNN2AM/A/1tb-ssd-kit-for-mac-pro
Well, the idea of TB4 is to make TB more mainstream by rolling it into into USB 4.0 - not to add speed to PCIe lanes or supporting more than the four lanes it support today. Btw, 40 Gbps is combined throughout, PCIe 3.0 carries only 8 Gbps per lane, hence you get 32 Gbps max, in both directions at the same time, through the TB3 connector. The rest can be used for instance for Display Port.
They have a super secret return policy that sometimes authorizes returns for up to 90 days from purchase if a customer is really unhappy. You could try that. You need to have purchased directly from Apple, however.
Could that mean AMD is going to give a liiiiiittle attention to those 100 years old boot camp drivers too?
Helps up out here, AMD, c'mon!
Helps up out here, AMD, c'mon!
That’s what I want to know— will this new GPU solve those issues or exacerbate them?
Sorry if maybe I didn't get the irony here, but Wi-Fi 6 is about to begin in real life, actually.
I agree that resale will be garbage, especially given the imminent Arm transition.
The $700-$800 BTO option cost is just exorbitant for the value you’re getting, in my opinion. Some may see an actual advantage or benefit...but my opinion is stick with an eGPU unless you simply can’t have one at your disposal and wait for the Arm-based MacBook Pro OR a Tiger Lake-based MacBook Pro, should Apple release one more intel-based update.
I can't afford the regular 16" and I can't wait not to buy this one, too.
So I have to answer this, I can’t simply scroll past it anymore. Lower Nanometer CPUs/GPUs does not mean it will automatically beat a higher nanometer part. There’s other more important things within a CPU. Intel are currently using a four year old architecture with their mobile CPUs, yet, it’s highly competitive and in most cases, better. Furthermore, actually has a denser fab process, meaning Intel 14nm is similar to 10nm TSMC, and Intel 10nm is similar to 7nm TSMC.
With the hopeful introduction of Tigerlake this year or next year, Intel will have a new architecture.
In terms of Thunderbolt 80Gbp/s we won’t be getting it soon. USB4 doesn’t automatically mean Thunderbolt, and USB4 only supports 40Gbp/s, we have no idea if USB4.1 supports higher bandwidth since it’s not been taped out.
if the 5600M is clocked slower ( but more CU (streams ) units ) and the HBM2 consumes less power then may not be a huge jump in battery consumptions. slower clocked but wider computation and feed data at a more power efficient rate would offset some the increase in active cores.
The HBM2 5600M isn't there, but AMDs "normal" 5700M , 5600M , 5500M ...
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The 5500M has a higher clock rate. The 5600M listed there isn't the same as what Apple is using (Apple is the "Pro" version which may mean it is custom. ). The power consumption is incrementally higher, but probably not anywhere near 75% higher. ( especially if this is a "re-optimzed" 7nm+ implementation. )
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the "normal" 5600M runs with a lower memory bus width. 192-bits versus 256-bit witdh versus the 5700M .
Same number of units won't matter as much if can't feed them data fast enough.
With HBM2 though, it may be faster. ( depends upon the HBM2 implementation. Either about the same in overall bandwidth of regular 5600M or closer to that of the 5700M's with the wider bus). Lower power and less board space is probably the trade-off here.
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