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It's going to be very expensive so I'm hoping that stock is 16GB/1TB. I want to upgrade to 64GB/3TB.

I hope it has upgradable GPU since it has more space now. Would love to have a single workhorse laptop for Logic, FCP, intensive machine learning, and VR work.
 
After releasing the 16” mbp will they introduce all new design in 2020?

Assuming this is a rhetorical question, pointing out the fact that they just released an update 34 days ago, so it's highly improbable that they'll release a completely new generation for the first time in their history against the annual iPhone release. Not only would the iPhone steal its thunder, the new MBP would cannibalize 2019 MBP sales during their biggest sales quarter of every year.

The big 2020 redesign will be in the 1st or 2nd quarter of 2020, will have its own announcement, and deliver a sizable bump to that quarter's sales at the end of the device's regularly scheduled 4-year upgrade cycle. My gut says no sooner than March, and no later than WWDC (mirroring the Mac Pro announcement, "Last year, we showed our dedication to the Mac... and this year we have another surprise for Pro's... ").

Ming's inevitable prediction (whenever it eventually comes to light), and a few early rumors are really fanning the flames of FOMO but we have miles to go before we Escape.
 
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For those complaining about the current keyboard on the MBP. What if Apple releases a 16 or 17” MBP with a virtual keyboard that lights up on a flat panel that provides Taptic feedback as you type. I can see the threads now, I hate the it has no keys it’s all virtual and then others I love it best keyboard ever. Lol

Think about it the Touch Bar and Touch ID are already flat and mostly virtual. Good move or Bad one?
 
Normally I’d be excited but I already know this will probably have a base price of $6000 and come with 128 GB of storage, a mid-range GPU from last year, and won’t include the $500 power supply.

I know it was meant in jest, but as I thought about it, I realized I can actually see this happening: “And since the new MacBook Pro charges via USB-C, we are being environmentally responsible by not including a charger in the box. If you do need a charger, you can order it separately for $500.” Plausible.
 
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Maybe it'll get delayed, but I'm thinking October. A pro-level Mac released a month after the iPhone doesn't meaningfully distract from the iPhone.

Same processors as the 2019 15" (not all of them - I'm betting the 6-core won't appear on the new machine). It'll either be the stock 8-core and the CTO 8-core (2 models), or only the CTO 8-core. Possible (less likely in my opinion) that it's a single model with the stock 8-core stock (and the CTO available as a CTO option only). I don't think they'd go that close to the present configurations, but I could be wrong.

Vega 16 or 20 standard, probably one (Vega?, Navi?) option above the Vega 20.

Either 16 GB RAM standard with 32 and possibly 64 GB options OR 32 GB standard with 64 GB option. If two models, the lower one may start with 16 GB, while the top model starts with 32 GB.

If there's one model, 512 GB standard with 1, 2, 4 TB options. If there are two models, the top model may well have 1 TB standard. Slight chance of an 8 TB option (if you have to ask, you can't afford it...), especially if Apple cuts their flash prices to closer to market rates. An 8 TB option should be around $1500-$2000, which means Apple would like to charge $3000 for it, but the current price of the 4 TB option would push it closer to $5000.

New keyboard (not 5th Gen Butterfly) - I think a numeric keypad is very unlikely - Apple has only once offered one in a laptop... ***What was it? Answer at end of post***

I don't think this will be the Taptic Keyboard Mac (although I think we'll see one soon - on the next MacBook along with an ARM CPU). I think there's some chance that this keyboard will be some sort of super-slim mechanical keyboard - partly to justify having two keyboards (bigger notebooks get a mechanical keyboard to type all day, smaller get the taptic keyboard).

Mostly TB3 ports (4) - slight chance of a single USB-A and/or a single HDMI. I think the chances of one or both improved since the new Mac Pro proves that Apple occasionally backtracks. Some chance of USB 4.0 - Apple's USB 3.1/TB3 ports are most of the way there already - implement faster USB that only a few peripherals know about and it's USB 4.0 (the standard is 20 Gbps USB plus 40 Gbps Thunderbolt in a single port, and Apple is already at 10 Gbps USB plus 40 Gbps Thunderbolt). We certainly won't lose any fast ports to add a convenience port or two, but there's enough reason for one USB-A (memory keys, charging cables for watches and other weird things) and/or one HDMI (projectors, which are often permanently installed) that either one seems possible. The only HDMI that would make sense is full-size, since we'd have to use an adapter most of the time for any small HDMI (and why not simply adapt a USB-C port instead).

Improved cooling.


I think the price will only be around $300 above a comparably configured 2019 15" MBP. The catch will be that all configurations are big configurations. It will probably have a base price around $2999-$3299, depending on how generous the base configuration is. There won't be a 6-core processor, a Radeon 560X or a 256 GB SSD to push the base price down. As for the top configuration? Somewhere between $6499 and $7999, depending on how outrageously it can be configured. If it's at the $6499 end, it'll max out at 32 GB of RAM (or RAM is reasonable enough that 64 GB is only a +$400 option or something) and a 4 TB SSD. If it's closer to $7999, that means it has an 8 TB SSD option.

ANSWER: The 1989 Mac Portable offered a numeric keypad option replacing the trackball to the right of the keyboard (it required an external mouse if the keypad was installed).
 
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For those complaining about the current keyboard on the MBP. What if Apple releases a 16 or 17” MBP with a virtual keyboard that lights up on a flat panel that provides Taptic feedback as you type. I can see the threads now, I hate the it has no keys it’s all virtual and then others I love it best keyboard ever. Lol

Think about it the Touch Bar and Touch ID are already flat and mostly virtual. Good move or Bad one?

Oh I hate the touch bar so that can die in a fire. As for Touch ID that's a completely different use case so it being a touch interface is fine. I'd just move it off the keyboard so a physical delete key can take it's place. Make it like the 2015 MBP with the power button away from the keyboard.

I can see Apple doing a touch keyboard and thinking it's amazing but Christ almighty that would be horrible. It's obviously not hard to do a decent keyboard, other PC manufacturers are doing just fine. It wasn't a problem that needed solving.
 
ALL IPS displays are LCD displays

And the earth is made out of dirt...which is really crushed up rock...and rock is just cold lava.

Word choice is important, and business people are careful about what they say.

If they meant it was a bigger version of the same screen technology, they would just say the new screen is bigger. But calling it an LCD, implies it is a different technology...something is different besides the size.

Everybody knows there is a gaping hole in Apples computer lineup, and i bet this is intended to fill it.
 
Buy a Windows machine.

HDMI will never be on an Apple laptop again. USB-C/thunderbolt does everything HDMI does, only better.
I was one of the people complaining about a lack of ports at the beginning. Personally, 4 TB 3 ports is enough for everything I need. I would not want to go back to USB A, HDMI and SD card. I simply don't need them.

And YES, I AM AWARE NOT EVERYONE IS ME.
 
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And a numeric keypad + cursors. Some folks use laptops for tasks slightly more complex than blogging.

The problem with numeric keypads on laptops is they force the regular keyboard to be off-centered. There’s no way I could get used to that after decades of use with centred keyboards. It’s also an ergonomic nightmare (imo).

Apple won’t do it so long as you can buy external keypads. It messes with the symmetry way too much, and we all know how design-conscious Apple is.
 
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#BringBackHDMI #BringBackSD

I really, really don’t want my MacBook Pro bogged down with stuff that is useless to me when I want other things instead (eg. portable bus powered 3GB/s external storage and multiple 5K or 6K displays) but I understand some people want things like HDMI and SD.

Imagine if we could make everyone happy and allow them to add anything they want to their Macs through some universal protocol that can handle everything. Wouldn’t that be something.

Oh... wait...
 
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HDMI is possible (it has a really common use case - projectors mounted on the ceiling, so you can't use a different cable) - yes, you can dongle it, but that's one more thing to lose and one more connection to come loose.

SD is probably unlikely (most non-photographers don't use it and some newer cameras are using XQD/CFExpress instead)
 
Should we tell him about the apple keyboard program?

Yep, I had three of them in four years on a Gen 1 MB 12" - the first Apple laptop to use the new butterfly mechanism. All three replaced under warranty. Took it to my Apple Store on a Monday and picked it up on Wednesday each time. Of course my Apple Store is 4 miles from my house but it was no big deal. I guess I lost 9 days of "productivity" in four years but I just used my old 17" MBP in the interim. Meh.
 
releasing a new macbook pro after they updated the 2019 pros in may wont sit too well with people. Especially if they drop the 15" model for this 16" i dont see them having around two sizes an inch apart from each other unless this is a completely new thicker chassis pro machine with a 5-800$ increase price point.

Haven’t they done this with their ipad line?
 
Why? Not everybody needs them and they take up space on the MBP. If people don't use those ports then they are a waste of space and cost.

While USB-C may be annoying to you it makes the most sense in terms of the user deciding exactly what they need to hook up to their MBP. Many of us are stuck with MBPs that have old outdated ports and can never get anything better. My 17" for example has FW800, USB2 and an express card slot. All of which are pretty much useless today and take up space. USB-C also provides the best future proof options since TB3 has enough bandwidth to expand to just about any type of device in the future. Any USB, USB3 or USB3.1 device can be adapted and there is still plenty of bandwidth left for a future version of USB.

SD card readers get faster and better and while it is very nice to have one built in I prefer to have the option to choose what card reader I use so I can use different types of memory cards as needed.

HDMI is also nice to have but I just don't see the big deal buying an adapter or two to support the video ports one needs. What if a company has a VGA projector without HDMI or IT plops a monitor on your desk with DVI? By not forcing the use of just HDMI Apple gives the user the option to use only what they need. Besides the HDMI spec is constantly changing and once a port is designed for a specific spec it can't be changed. for example some older HDMI ports only support HD resolution. The HDMI spec today only support up to 4k and they are directly tied to broadcast standards and not the fluidity of computer display standards. For example 5k displays just do not work with HDMI and they likely never will due to 5k not being a broadcast video standard. HDMI is just too limiting to make a MBP stuck with it forever.

Exactly. Thanks for a well written explanation of exactly what makes sense and why.
 
And this tired old rhetoric continues from but a few voices. Please bring yourself into the present. Those ports on any Apple laptop are history, and that’s the right decision. Only you and a dozen other people want them. The rest of us (millions) really, really don’t. This will sell like hot cakes without them.

Yeah nah, the new Mac Pro https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/mac-pro/ has two USB-A ports, and two 10Gb Ethernet ports built in. It also has 8 PCI slots so you can plug in whatever ports, card readers, and headphone sockets you want. I'm sure there's probably even a PCI card with a lightning port if you want it.

So no, bring YOURSELF back into the present. Apple has bent over backwards with this machine to try and halt the flood of heavy pro customers abandoning Apple, and are giving these customers what they have demanded, including backflipping on the ridiculous shelving of USB-A etc.

And of course, there are pro creatives that need real pro laptops that have given up on Apple (For example, this very influential and famous photographer https://stuckincustoms.com/2017/02/10/switching-from-mac-to-windows/). I will be very curious to see if Apple does some backflips on this new laptop too. Fingers crossed.
 
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And the earth is made out of dirt...which is really crushed up rock...and rock is just cold lava.

Word choice is important, and business people are careful about what they say.

If they meant it was a bigger version of the same screen technology, they would just say the new screen is bigger. But calling it an LCD, implies it is a different technology...something is different besides the size.

Everybody knows there is a gaping hole in Apples computer lineup, and i bet this is intended to fill it.
First of all this report isn't even by Apple. It's by some no-name analyst making a prediction & chances are he doesn't even know about the technical specifications of display technology.

"LCD, implies it is a different technology" => It means no such thing. It's all conjecture at this point.
 
It's not even the price that's killing this, it the iPhone thin obsession that's killed the Macbook pro, once the greatest laptop on the market. Fatten the edges back up a bit, same as the 2015 MBP, bring back magsafe and give me an SD card slot, it isn't hard, you can throw as much usb-c's as you like around those two essentials.
 
I guess it is going to be a very good thing (for Apple, of course). It will be the world first 5 digits price tag laptop with sticky keys people are going to buy anyway. Thank you very much ****ers!
 
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