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There's a speed bump upgrade between these:
  • MacBook Pro (15-inch Early 2009, March) Penryn 5,1 * (5m)
Thanks, I got my data mainly from Mactracker and it doesn’t list an Early 2009 15” MBP update (only an update to the 17” model in January). I’ll look for other sources to find more details on this model.
 
The 17" had a resolution of 1920 by 1200. I really don't see the necessity to bring back that behemoth.
I'd rather take a 17" ipad pro for graphics work where the real-estate also translates into the input medium.

Don’t agree on the 17” MacBook Pro, I would really like one, not this 16” whatever.

Ditto on the 15”-17” iPad Pro...starting to feel cramped on my 12.9” 1st Gen.
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Bring back light up apple logo and the chime.
No light, yes chime.
 
Thanks, I got my data mainly from Mactracker and it doesn’t list an Early 2009 15” MBP update (only an update to the 17” model in January). I’ll look for other sources to find more details on this model.

For the 15", the March update kept the same CPU clock for the base option, but upgraded the optional CPUs. The October clock options were 2.4/2.53/2.8 and on March 3rd they went 2.4/2.66/2.93. Several years ago I noticed that Apple had "forgotten" about this speed bump, and hence it is getting hard to find information about it. This is an irritation point for me because I have a 2.66.
 
releasing a new macbook pro after they updated the 2019 pros in may wont sit too well with people. Especially if they drop the 15" model for this 16" i dont see them having around two sizes an inch apart from each other unless this is a completely new thicker chassis pro machine with a 5-800$ increase price point.

The fact is they did that several times including 2018.
 
What are the ports you need on a regular basis? I have 3 dongles on my 2016 and before that i had just one for my 2013 MBP. And that's just my choice, i'm sure i could get different dongles and just have 2 (one of them is ethernet which the 2013 model also didn't have). If you need a lot of ports it would make sense to have a dock, so your laptop doesn't look like an octopus. I think people forget that laptops are meant to be carried around and a lot of people use them as they are, not with 10 things plugged in. Why would a few hundred $ matter for people who do professional work with gear that costs a lot more than these laptops?

Huh?... That last sentence is a bit of a head-scracher... I work freelance as a composer, and am often in rehearsal studios and theatres, passing files back and forth with people, about 90% of which happens via USB-A ports. And yes, a few hundred dollars definitely matters (though I'm not sure what you're referring to).

I have a 2016 MBP, with one of those dock things that plugs into the two TB/USB-C ports, offering 2x USB-A, HDMI, SD card, and two passthrough TBs. It's fine, but the two USB-A ports are permanently "employed" with a Syncrosoft license key and an iLok license key. So the A ports aren't free for anything else. So, of course, I have separate USB-C/A adapters, which seem to have a tendency to get loose over time, making dodgy connections (I have tried different brands, and yes, some are better than others). Because the internal SSD can't be upgraded (I bought what I could afford—512 GB), I have a 1TB M.2 SSD attached to the top panel/back of screen, with adhesive gel, which takes another TB port (at least any time I'm doing audio work... which is much of the time). So I, like many around here, do require more I/O on my machine. At the very least, having one or two USB-A ports would be very handy on a lot of occasions. But actually, ports are much less of a concern to me than internal upgradability. That is a HUGE issue. Huge.
 
All you guys can be as pessimistic as you want, but from what I saw in the mac pro this year, I am willing to be open minded and wait to see what is unveiled about the MBP later this year before being a bsh about it.

All the snarky remarks about the keyboard are just lazy attempts to be an enthusiast. Mainly from people who cannot afford MBP anyways.

Flame on.
 
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I believe that's called True Tone. You can turn it off in the settings.

No, I know what True Tone is, and that's an exponential level of awful. Could explain why it's off by default. Everything I said is with True Tone off and that applies to all the other iPad mini 5s I checked. Color and contrast is noticeably duller compared to my iPad mini 4 and previous iPads, and the color balance is noticeably warm. Yellowish/greenish. White is not pure white.
 
If it has a full travel keyboard, OLED display and USB-A, SD and HDMI ports, this will sell like hotcakes. Of course, it won't have any of that. They'll talk about how "impossibly thin" it is

We never thought we’d get another tower Mac Pro, so yeah, anything is possible.

There will probably be a matte screen option again too.
 
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For the 15", the March update kept the same CPU clock for the base option, but upgraded the optional CPUs. The October clock options were 2.4/2.53/2.8 and on March 3rd they went 2.4/2.66/2.93. Several years ago I noticed that Apple had "forgotten" about this speed bump, and hence it is getting hard to find information about it. This is an irritation point for me because I have a 2.66.
The stealthiness of this update is corroborated by the title of MacRumors article on it:
"Apple Quietly Bumps 15" MacBook Pro Speed, 256GB SSD Option [...]"
EveryMac.com does list it however. I guess Apple doesn't count it as a separate model if the base configuration remains unchanged (and only the built-to-order options change).
 
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Everyone is assuming it's a Pro just because of the size, but Apple just put out a new Pro. There's no way they're coming out with another one right after. This is a MacBook, running on an iPad CPU (which are as fast as some Pro CPUs now). It'll be cheaper than any of the (touchbar) MacBook Pros. It has to be, because it won't run most of the software at first, just Apple software and stuff ported from the iPad with Catalyst (e.g. MS Office and Adobe iPad apps). Everything else will have to be rewritten to run on ARM CPUs, and that will take time.

This will sell because it's cheaper (~$1500) and lighter (~3lb, fanless, smaller battery) with a big screen. (There should be a ~13-inch as well). Apple has been telegraphing the difficult switch to ARM for years, and this 16-inch rumor (if true), just indicates that it's happening now.

Anyone who just bought a new MacBook Pro might want to hold onto it until this new MacBook can run more than just Apple and iPad software.
 
Everyone is assuming it's a Pro just because of the size, but Apple just put out a new Pro. There's no way they're coming out with another one right after. This is a MacBook, running on an iPad CPU (which are as fast as some Pro CPUs now). It'll be cheaper than any of the (touchbar) MacBook Pros. It has to be, because it won't run most of the software at first, just Apple software and stuff ported from the iPad with Catalyst (e.g. MS Office and Adobe iPad apps). Everything else will have to be rewritten to run on ARM CPUs, and that will take time.

This will sell because it's cheaper (~$1500) and lighter (~3lb, fanless, smaller battery) with a big screen. (There should be a ~13-inch as well). Apple has been telegraphing the difficult switch to ARM for years, and this 16-inch rumor (if true), just indicates that it's happening now.

Anyone who just bought a new MacBook Pro might want to hold onto it until this new MacBook can run more than just Apple and iPad software.

I think this is a very interesting possibility, and it is unusual that they’re apparently releasing it at their iPhone event. But every leak has said it’s a Pro, and the Mac Pro is releasing in September too.
 
Because they aren’t oversaturated like Samsung’s are. It’s Apple though they will color calibrate it to look exactly the same as all their other displays.
many Apple Macbooks and premium iPhones use Samsung displays and they look amazing, definitely not over saturated.(this is a very old, cliche thing to say,and it's mainly about Samsung's own Galaxy displays of the past).

many other Apple devices use LG and I know for a fact many hardcore Macbook users actually trying to find out which has Samsung inside because those who care about details almost always prefer Samsung displays.sharper,better ton,better overal image quality .

Apple does its own calibration but at the end of the day each display brands "characteristics" and "DNA" remains different.

I can almost immediately tell which one's which.as I said LG always has this stale,pale,slight bluish tone that I hate.regardless of Apple calibration.and not just on Apple devices..every LG display.
Apple will choose whichever passes their "standard" and supply them enough in time (and cheaper).but that doesn't change the fact they are not equal.
 
I think this is a very interesting possibility, and it is unusual that they’re apparently releasing it at their iPhone event. But every leak has said it’s a Pro, and the Mac Pro is releasing in September too.
I figure the leaker is guessing it's a Pro based on the screen size. There's probably something to the leak, given the source and repetition, but no one can really make sense of the other two possibilities:
MacBook Pro - $2900 (slightly better i7-i9): Targets subset of the same people who already buy 15.4 inch
MacBook Pro Pro - $4000 (i9-Xeon): Targets tiny group of high end users who need portability with their power
The only reasonable possibility is:
MacBook - $1500 (A13X): Initially targets significant group who want nice hardware and price and don't need backward compatibility. Later (as apps are rewritten for ARM) targets everyone.
 
One can dream but, will it come with 32GB standard, and upgradable RAM? As I said, one can dream. Probably go for 5K as well.
 
I figure the leaker is guessing it's a Pro based on the screen size. There's probably something to the leak, given the source and repetition, but no one can really make sense of the other two possibilities:
MacBook Pro - $2900 (slightly better i7-i9): Targets subset of the same people who already buy 15.4 inch
MacBook Pro Pro - $4000 (i9-Xeon): Targets tiny group of high end users who need portability with their power
The only reasonable possibility is:
MacBook - $1500 (A13X): Initially targets significant group who want nice hardware and price and don't need backward compatibility. Later (as apps are rewritten for ARM) targets everyone.

I suppose one potential flaw in that theory is the size; you’d think the first ARM MacBook would be smaller, given that larger laptops are always used by pros in my experience.
 
Everyone is assuming it's a Pro just because of the size, but Apple just put out a new Pro. There's no way they're coming out with another one right after. This is a MacBook, running on an iPad CPU (which are as fast as some Pro CPUs now). It'll be cheaper than any of the (touchbar) MacBook Pros. It has to be, because it won't run most of the software at first, just Apple software and stuff ported from the iPad with Catalyst (e.g. MS Office and Adobe iPad apps). Everything else will have to be rewritten to run on ARM CPUs, and that will take time.

This will sell because it's cheaper (~$1500) and lighter (~3lb, fanless, smaller battery) with a big screen. (There should be a ~13-inch as well). Apple has been telegraphing the difficult switch to ARM for years, and this 16-inch rumor (if true), just indicates that it's happening now.

Anyone who just bought a new MacBook Pro might want to hold onto it until this new MacBook can run more than just Apple and iPad software.

This is an interesting thought, but I wouldn't be so sure about them not releasing another MacBook Pro. They've taken a lot of heat about the keyboard, the Touch Bar, lack of ports, lack of upgradability, etc. on the 2016+ design. And they've shown, with the new Mac Pro, that they have a willingness to listen and respond to the needs of their pro user base, so it's reasonable to assume that this also applies to the laptop line.
 
what would you do?
return 2019 top spec MBP now? ($6k here in Aus), try to use iPad Pro 12.9 for 90 days or hire until this release?
It will be hard to be without a Mac for 90 days, but can't afford to invest in product that will soon HOPEFULLY be bettered.

I'm in your position. I'm keeping my top spec 2019 MBP I bought 2 weeks ago.

It's quite the dilemma. I have the 2016 MBP, also top spec, which I'm handed down now I have the new 2019 MBP. However, the 2016 MBP had a loose hinge. I just got it back from apple care... they replaced the whole screen/top, plus also said, when they opened it up the battery was swollen... so replaced the bottom case as the battery is essentially is super glued in, so also had - new keyboard, new trackpad... even better the keyboard appears to be the 2018 keyboard, and better than the 2016 -- it's almost a whole new machine. One additional reason to return the 2019 MBP.

I will not return it though. New form factor MBP is may have issues initially -- 2008 unibody had graphics / bump-crack issue, 2016 MBP had graphics switching issues causing battery life problems, there may be others. So I wouldn't jump on to a brand new form factor. And, whilst it's sort of driving me crazy, I really don't want to be the person who has to have the BEST possible MBP, dreading any upgrade.

hope this helps you.
 
No, no and no.

16GB for the base model, definitely not 32GB. Also I can't see it being upgradable. The prices should start from $2999
"16GB for the base model, definitely not 32GB"

Not necessarily. Think of it like iMac 5K / iMac Pro. The base iMac 5K comes with 8GB RAM as standard while the base iMac Pro comes with 32GB RAM standard. If this new 16" is a new higher-end tier and isn't replacing the current 15" MBP, it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for it come with 32GB RAM on the base model.
 
Samsung is dumping OLED for microLED. OLED has not panned out as it was sold. Apple's focus is developing microLED, in-house.
I agree. I wish Apple stuck with LCD on its entire iPhone lineup instead of utilizing OLED
 
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