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16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September With LCD and 3072x1920 Resolution
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and only just updated, every 5 months a new model, hard to know when to invest.
If it just works! Keyboard, kernels and thermals.
Rule #1 - never buy a first gen apple product!
I would probably expect this is going to be pitched as the “real pro” laptop. I’d expect Xeon CPUs, workstation graphics, ECC memory, maybe TLC NAND and of course a price to match
The iMac did have a redesign between the Mid 2009 and the Late 2009. The 20" and 24" became the 21.5" and 27" from March/April of 2009 to October of 2009.
Late 2008 - October 14, 2008
Early 2009 - March 3, 2009
Mid 2009 - June 8, 2009
Mid 2010 - April 13, 2010
Early 2011 - February 24, 2011
Late 2011 - October 24, 2011
Mid 2012 - June 11, 2012 (Original 15-inch with Retina Display)
Late 2012 - October 23, 2012 (Original 13-inch with Retina Display)
Early 2013 - February 13, 2013
Late 2013 - October 22, 2013
Mid 2014 - July 29, 2014
Early 2015 - March 9, 2015 (13-inch Only)
Mid 2015 - May 19, 2015 (15-inch Only)
2016 - October 27, 2016
2017 - June 5, 2017
2018 - July 12, 2018
2018 VEGA 15" - November 14, 2018
2019 - May 21, 2019
I hope it is the same size as the 15" with smaller bezels. Anything bigger or heavier is too big and heavy. If so, I would like upgrade from my 2018 15".
Agreed. With Apple pushing 4K movies in iTunes now I don’t get it either. Competitors have had 4K options for a long while.
4K should’ve been a priority; along with the keyboard, cooling (a decent heat sync for a change) and ports: SD and optical audio return please!
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Many of us Pro's still use USB-A devices! And likely will for quite a few years. Even in the engineering space 10's of thousands of dollar devices still use USB-A interfaces and no one is going to trash them! Wired keyboards and mice, security keys are still mostly USB-A. In some environment you need wired keyboards & mice and using Dongles are not permitted! The risk of (Man in the middle) security risk. We really need built-in USB-A back. Yes USB-C is good and the future for high speed I/O it doesn't make sense for slow speed I/O.
Yes, Apple fixed the firmware in the 2018 models for the sawtooth issue they had with the thermals. That did not fix the basic issue with the CPU as the i9 chip would not run at the claimed base clock. The i7 was a better model to get if you needed the raw power.
The newer 2019 models do offer a bit more thermal head room. At this point I can only guess what Intel did to fix the i9 chip. In any case Intel's current generation of chips still run too hot for the current frame to allow the CPU to ramp up into turbo for any length of time. Basically, the system is constrained by the CPU with its lack of cooling as the case is just too thin to offer then needed cooling solution.
We've been in a holding pattern waiting for the 10 nm chips. Will they deliver the needed improvements so the chip runs cooler so a larger cooling solution is not needed? I don't think it will offer enough as we ramp up the performance of the chip will likely use up the gains.
As far as adding more USB-C ports Intel's i5/i7/i9 CPUs & PCH chips don't offer enough PCI lanes! Yes, you can plug on a PCI hub to extend the lanes but these lanes are not full I/O lanes to the CPU! The Xeon workstation series CPU's which use a Socket P (LGA-3647) socket can!
Doesn't look like Ice Lake in 45W will be ready in time for this, so likely Comet Lake or something 14nm++++. I'm glad for the screen size expansion but being 14nm warmed over a bit tamps down excitement a bit for me.
It's absurdly expensive if it's not using ECC memory, mobile Xeon, and comes with a paltry 256GB soldered-in SSD (or in other words is simply a successor to the current MBP lineup). If it does debut as a mobile iMac Pro, maybe an $3K+ starting price is warranted.
Not likely! First Apple just renamed the iOS for the iPad to iPadOS so in my mind that set it!
MacBook/MacBook Pro (macOS) systems will stay CISC Intel or other (AMD?) No A series chip for them.
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I agree about making the resolution up to integer scaled 1680x1050, though I would like to see the screen get a little bigger, just to see if it makes 1920x1200 scaled more usable (currently it's just a smidgen to small to be comfortable).
Two words, Jony Ive. The only worthy Apple customer wants a computer that is thin, light, small, underpowered, but using beautiful finishes. They finally got Ive out of, or mostly out of, the Mac Pro design loop, but obviously not the MacBook Pro.
Now I am not saying there is no market for underpowered fashion accessories. In fact, that is a big market for Apple and Ive should focus on the MacBook and MacBook Air. But it's not the only market. Jony, please leave the MacBook Pro alone and let us have some portable power.
Funny!
In truth the currently lineup is still thermally constrained. This newer system hopefully fixes this! Going back to a plumper case!
I want a Tara Lynn not a Twiggy
Give it the needed girth so the system can leverage its ability to turbo!Lets call it the MacBook Pro EX
EX for extreme!
$3,999 would be for the lowest processor, lowest graphics, 8GB RAM, and 256GB storage. IF we're lucky
A decent one will be $6500+
Given the butterfly keyboard, the new rule is: never buy a Mac no matter where in the product cycle it is. Those who have been holding off since 2016 due to the bad keyboards might not be able to wait yet another year... This one better be good on the first try at this point.
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Lets focus on the Input side of the issue. USB-C has its place but USB-A is still needed and many hate the dongle solution when in the field. When one is home then a USB-C hub makes sense! That offers the time one is likely to need a HDMI or other external video output.
A portable system should not be encumbered with lots of loose pieces, i.e. no dongles! Apple missed it! If they had kept 2 USB-A ports things would have been different. I still would like to see both a SD slot and Ethernet.
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Apple seriously need to redesign their cooling for this Macbook. I just bought a top model 2019 version and I want to sell it again. I can't use it for anything that I intended to without the fans spinning up and making it unbearable to sit with for hours. Returning to my older 2015 iMac.
Yes!
But, the backlight system could be zoned like the new XDR display. In this case it won't as advanced a system. More likely similar to how many of the TV's now have zoned backlights using mini LED's.
Yes, why would they? If this is Apple's successor to the old 17" MacBook Pro, the display resolution would be 3840x2400 (4K), not 3072x1920. 3072x1920 is too small even for a 15" model. The notion of having to run a 16" MacBook Pro at a non-native screen resolution because the physical resolution is too small is ridiculous, hence I've been waiting for them to finally bump up the PPI to match the software resolution. If this report is true, I'm going to be disappointed.