Looks very real to me, certainly an add that would fit in the German market, and probably right on the spot on price and date. Its out of Apple's hands now so we will have much more leaks on the iPhone than a pure Apple product.
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16GB 3G iPhone in Germany on November 12th?
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3G is one of the things I'm waiting for to get an iPhone in the US. I've got mixed thoughts on what the price drop for the current iPhone meant-- was that a signal that there will be no new models this year and reconciling the price with the iPod Touch, or was it clearing a space for a higher priced 3G iPhone. The other big variable for me personally is what the monthly rates are for 3G service-- the current iPhone plans are already pushing what I'd be willing to spend.
I tend to think we won't see 3G in the US until next year-- given the outcry over the price drop, I don't think they'd sell hundreds of thousands more Edge phone and then "obsolete them" (as I'm sure the Edge buyers would scream).
Ironically this may just mean that a 3G phone is available and selling in Europe but Apple won't bring it to the US to avoid disappointing US buyers-- as backwards as that sounds to me...
I tend to think we won't see 3G in the US until next year-- given the outcry over the price drop, I don't think they'd sell hundreds of thousands more Edge phone and then "obsolete them" (as I'm sure the Edge buyers would scream).
Ironically this may just mean that a 3G phone is available and selling in Europe but Apple won't bring it to the US to avoid disappointing US buyers-- as backwards as that sounds to me...
I don't know... if they release an iPhone in the US with 3G data (falling back to Edge) & 16GB for $599 while keeping the current phone at $399, they may find that works fine for them for a short while. So why not?
However - AT&T does use a different frequency to European 3G. So it might not be that simple.
Duden Online also doesn't list "Apfelpfannkuchen" or "Lakritzschnecke", but I am pretty sure these exist, as I just had some of them last week.
Not being listed doesn't prove anything.
Thing is though, we're not very WiFi friendly over here. My nearest free WiFi spot is... well I really don't know! I had a Widget that told me that, but there wasn't one for a 10 mile radius (which includes the city of Manchester). Soon as I turned on the "paid network" button - the list exploded.
This is why I can see the iPhone being 3G here, regardless of what has previously been said. To compete in Europe with a (potential) price like the iPhones you need 3G. 16gb is clearly the next step too. With it being in the iPod Touch already, I wouldn't doubt for a moment that the US would see a 16gb upgrade before Xmas and it launching here. Steve would probably say something about "This is your treat for waiting".
Arun Sarin - head honcho of Vodafone said in an interview yesterday about the iphone :
"That includes taking hard-nosed decisions about the new Apple iPhone. It is a 2G phone, not 3G. When its a broadband phone we will be interested in carrying it.
So that for me confirms it will definitely only be 2G (eg. EDGE/GPRS) at the Euro launch.
"That includes taking hard-nosed decisions about the new Apple iPhone. It is a 2G phone, not 3G. When its a broadband phone we will be interested in carrying it.
So that for me confirms it will definitely only be 2G (eg. EDGE/GPRS) at the Euro launch.
*Snore* I've already answered this in another thread, it comes from the Apple Expo Paris where Jobs will HOPEFULLY announce the iPhone in Europe. Orange, the exclusive for France, are gonna be there as well doing a bit on "Easy web browsing with Orange" or something similar, so it seems too good to be true.
HermanTheGerman,
Silly translations are certainly not above Apple Germany. Just look at "Ablage", the most stupid translation for the "File" menu ("Datei" would be right). Or how they translate both "Get Info" (in the Finder and in other places) and "Inspector" (in iWork and iLife) to "Informationen".
Silly translations are certainly not above Apple Germany. Just look at "Ablage", the most stupid translation for the "File" menu ("Datei" would be right). Or how they translate both "Get Info" (in the Finder and in other places) and "Inspector" (in iWork and iLife) to "Informationen".
What are you basing this on, out of interest?
Now that chipsets support multiple frequencies, it's little effort for companies to make triband and quad band phones (GSM 900/1800/1900 & 3G's 2100).
But 3G on 850Mhz is unusual, so I wouldn't be that confident that Apple could get that all in a small neat package. Of course, I don't know that they haven't, either.
I can't say for sure if this is real or not, but here in the land of Nokia* there's no market for such a device without 3G. 3G connections are quite cheap in here. you can get 384 kbit/s connection for 9,80 /month.
iPhone is quite a nice device, but I'd prefer an iPod Touch and a separate phone unless there's 3G
well. I guess the market here is too small anyway. We propably won't be getting the iPhone anyway.
*the land of Nokia as in Finland
iPhone is quite a nice device, but I'd prefer an iPod Touch and a separate phone unless there's 3G
well. I guess the market here is too small anyway. We propably won't be getting the iPhone anyway.
*the land of Nokia as in Finland
It seems that Apple just doesn't understand the mobile phone business. If they were on the ball, the original iPhone would have already had 3G. Many other phones had it then, such as my Motorola V3xx, my Samsung A717, etc. So what if they did not live up to the Apple Hype machine and their claim that the iPhone would change the world, or at least what people eat for breakfast....
They could have done the right thing and equipped it with 3G. Behind the scenes for the last few months, what has prevented Apple from rolling it out in the UK is just that type of mistake. Vodaphone the worlds largest cell phone company is much smarter than Apple and demanded a 3G version or they would not buy it. No matter how much "bling" or other wild claims of life changing events. I knew of the iPhones shortcomings when I bought mine, which was just out of curiousity, not as a serious phone to replace what I'm currenty using. This, because I knew the internet experience on the iPhone would be dreadful and really SLOW, so I was not surprised when that came true. Then the other part of my strategy that served me well, was dumping it on eBay after just 3 weeks of playing around. I got nearly as much as I paid for it, and that was way before Steve's fit of juvenile behavior by putting it to the customers in the form of a $200 price cut.
Now I'm the one that can laugh, as yesterday I see they are on ebay for a low as $50.00! As a long time Apple customer I know their patterns and the fact that they cut 200 bucks out indicates poor sales, a new model very soon, and complete lack of care about pulling one over on the Apple Faithful whom all put up $600 or more if one considers ERF fees (avs $175) just to buy a 60 day wonder. iWonder what's next.......
Hey, no big deal though really, it's only money and as long as it's in Steve's pocket at least the Apple Cult is happy. I just wrote if off as a donation... their engineering department certainly needs it.
Besides for the well balanced people out there.... it's only a phone... so what who cares? ! ...
They could have done the right thing and equipped it with 3G. Behind the scenes for the last few months, what has prevented Apple from rolling it out in the UK is just that type of mistake. Vodaphone the worlds largest cell phone company is much smarter than Apple and demanded a 3G version or they would not buy it. No matter how much "bling" or other wild claims of life changing events. I knew of the iPhones shortcomings when I bought mine, which was just out of curiousity, not as a serious phone to replace what I'm currenty using. This, because I knew the internet experience on the iPhone would be dreadful and really SLOW, so I was not surprised when that came true. Then the other part of my strategy that served me well, was dumping it on eBay after just 3 weeks of playing around. I got nearly as much as I paid for it, and that was way before Steve's fit of juvenile behavior by putting it to the customers in the form of a $200 price cut.
Now I'm the one that can laugh, as yesterday I see they are on ebay for a low as $50.00! As a long time Apple customer I know their patterns and the fact that they cut 200 bucks out indicates poor sales, a new model very soon, and complete lack of care about pulling one over on the Apple Faithful whom all put up $600 or more if one considers ERF fees (avs $175) just to buy a 60 day wonder. iWonder what's next.......
Hey, no big deal though really, it's only money and as long as it's in Steve's pocket at least the Apple Cult is happy. I just wrote if off as a donation... their engineering department certainly needs it.
Besides for the well balanced people out there.... it's only a phone... so what who cares? ! ...
Well, not quite...
Duden has the good old word 'Weltzeituhr' with the explanation 'a clock which shows the local time and in different time zones of the world'. 'Weltuhr' sounds strange but still much better than 'Kulthandy' Given the mistakes in this add it must have been written by marketing guy with no respect to the German language.
Martin
Edit: Sorry I was too late and answered before reading all the posts
Duden has the good old word 'Weltzeituhr' with the explanation 'a clock which shows the local time and in different time zones of the world'. 'Weltuhr' sounds strange but still much better than 'Kulthandy'
Given the mistakes in this add it must have been written by marketing guy with no respect to the German language. Martin
Edit: Sorry I was too late and answered before reading all the posts
Could you please hit F12...
...and if you really are German, then you should browse your widgets. Tadaa...here comes "Weltuhr"
...and if you really are German, then you should browse your widgets. Tadaa...here comes "Weltuhr"
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all these talks over 3G iPhone might be a misnomer, especially in the UK..
just last week, 02 announced they are adding EDGE to their network..
is that just a coincidence for the iPhone coming??
just last week, 02 announced they are adding EDGE to their network..
is that just a coincidence for the iPhone coming??
I can't for the life of me figure out why everyone thinks that a 16 gig iPhone is so far fetched. When it came out it came out as 4GB and 8GB. The iPhone touch, which for all intensive purposes came out as a 8GB and a 16GB and will ship at the end of september (probably really october). The 4GB iPhone was discontinued.
The iPod Touch and iPhone look remarkably similar in every aspect except for having a mobile phone built in... so would it be crazy for the touch and phone to not come in the same friggin memory capacities? No, not only would it not be strange, but I would question Apple as a company if they DIDNT have the same capacity, especially given that if you stand 5 feet away you can't tell the difference between the two devices.
People seem to whine about "fakes" all the time... but the fact that the iPhone will probably be 16 GB just like the touch is almost certain.
Adding HSPDA would be the next logical step as well, which why WOULDN'T they, once again? The only logic people have assigned to that here is "Steve said no HSPDA, wahh wahh wahh... Steve would have said it..." ... hmm let's think about this one geniuses... IF he had said "we're releasing the iPhone today... the 4 GB models will have half the memory, be reduced $200 and discontinued in 70 days.... oh, and we'll have a 3G model out in 90 days" ... how many iPhones do you think Apple would have sold? 1 million? Hell no. The die hards still would have gotten their iPhone the day it came out, but I am sure half those million phone buyers would have said "oh 3G is going to be out in 90 days? I'll wait" ... how good of a business decision would that have been for apple to ANNOUNCE that when the REV A's were coming out?
Quit being so quick to call something fake or not, ESPECIALLY when it's a reality like this one is. There's nothing about this that indicates it might be a fake... in fact, it was probably just a draft that some guy making $35k a year to sit in a marketing department made and his boss yelled at him for spelling crap wrong so he said "I'll show them" and posted it on the web as a spoiler... whatever. Reality check, AT&T is a business as is Apple... and just because they're slow as mollasis to release new computers with the latest processors, technology and features, if they're going to be a real player in the mobile phone industry they're going to have to keep on top of updating with the "latest new model" just like all the other players. Phones and PDA's have a 3-9 month product cycle. Get used to it all you whiners... if you buy an iPhone it won't be the latest and greatest in 6 months. WAHHHHH
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16gig, it's going to happen.
Highly likely it will be 3g. This would be an ideal time to integrate a front facing camera too however there is no rumor of that.
For all those from the US who said this is fake because it is too expensive. The UK is expensive, ridiculously so.
16gig, it's going to happen.
Highly likely it will be 3g. This would be an ideal time to integrate a front facing camera too however there is no rumor of that.
For all those from the US who said this is fake because it is too expensive. The UK is expensive, ridiculously so.
Why would an advertisement for the iPhone say "DIE iPhone," doesn't that seem like something Microsoft would say?
No, it refers to "Tarife:, its like "The iPhone plans"
A European 16Gb 3G iPhone expensive at 500?
LOL That's a bargain!
The Nokia N95 cost 700 (that's about 960 USD) when it came out earlier this year. Now that was expensive.
And the only thing the N95 has got on the rumored iPhone is the GPS, which doesn't freakin' work anyway.
LOL That's a bargain!
The Nokia N95 cost 700 (that's about 960 USD) when it came out earlier this year. Now that was expensive.
And the only thing the N95 has got on the rumored iPhone is the GPS, which doesn't freakin' work anyway.
