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On the other hand, Google has 49,100 results for "Weltuhr". Maybe the Duden doesn't know the word, but Germans certainly do. "Weltzeituhr" has more hits on Google, but Weltuhr is shorter and that might make a difference.

Just look at these search results. :rolleyes:

Google also has 560,000 results for "nähmlich". :p And heck yes, Germans certainly know that word either. :eek:
 
A bit far out, but Herman - do you play CS? :eek:

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Hey, where'd you get those widgets? And can I have them pls? :D
 
Wow, that sucks, looking at the Ireland Apple store it appears that it's usually true. Who knew! You folks in Euro-Land need a good US hook-up.

The pound tends to get a slightly better deal than the rest of Europe.

Besides, we have the Eurovision Song Contest. Now that TOTALLY makes up for it.
 
"Weltuhr" is not possible at all, I actually took the time to look it up in several online as well as offline sources. Why would somebody use a word that does not even exist? It is either "Weltzeituhr" or "Weltzeit". Sorry for being anal.

Well - my translation widget translates ''Weltuhr" to 'World Clock' - It says that "Weltzeit" is "World time" ... "Weltzeiturh" - it cannot translate at all, and when I go from english 'World Clock" it says that it translates to "Welttaktgeber"

While these translation widgets are 'weak' - I don't think it (the use of Weltuhr) is an indication that it is fake. However, it is a fake!
 
I'm a native speaker, and while I haven't ever heard of the word "Weltuhr", it does make sense to me. :p Still a bit strange, like "Haarfrisur" or "Jeanshose". ;)
 
Are you a native speaker? Let me take a guess... No, you are not.

If I were to use the words "Welt" and "Uhr" and conceive the word "Uhrwelt", it would not make any sense at all.

I am a native German speaker and I live in Berlin, Germany. "Weltuhr" or "Weltzeituhr" are valid, understandable words. It would be more proper to call it "Weltzeituhr" - but maybe there was not enough space or they decided to give it a smaller name.

I think its 50/50 that it is a fake. Besides: If it really comes out with 3G you boys in the US should be really pissed!
 
No, I do not live in the UK. Other than that, my name is not Herman. :eek: But we could be friends anyway. :D

The proper translation for "world clock" in German, assuming limited space on a display, would be "Weltzeit".

It is a fake, fanboy art, nothing but that.

NO ist would be "Weltuhr"....

So but leave it to experts like me - it is the language I speak...
 
NO ist would be "Weltuhr"....

So but leave it to experts like me - it is the language I speak...

Another "expert" to join this board only to let us know about his immaculate German skills.

Read this: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weltzeituhren

There is no entry for "Weltuhr".

You could argue forever if a word exists or not. But conceiving neologisms is not a means of proving anything.

We all know that

- there will be an iPhone in Europe very soon
- T-Mobile will exclusively carry it in Germany
- it will most likely feature 3G

So what? Maybe icons were translated inconsistantly for this flyer or for the iPhone itself, maybe not.

However, I am still convinced that this flyer is the brainchild of an Apple fanboy. Nothing more and nothing less.

All you need to do is to take a closer look at the original high resolution picture posted via Rapid Share.

Other than that: Neither Apple Legal nor T-Mobile have pulled it. Apple Legal has not been tired of requesting actions like that lately.
 
3rd Generation? Where's 2nd??

Ya, i'm calling bananas on this for now.., If they had em ready, Jobs woulda mentinoed it..

1st generation Analog: voice only
2nd generation Digital: voice and text (SMS) messaging
‘‘2.5G’’ Digital with packet data (GPRS): multimedia (MMS) messaging, mobile Internet
3rd generation Higher-bandwidth digital: live video calls, video streaming


Oh, i tohught 3G meant 3rd generation iPod. My bad..
 
fAKE

it's a fake.

t-mobile never would use the word "kulthandy"!

there another errors in there: the germans do not write the firts letter of "Z.B." big. Correct is "z.B.".

It isn't the orignal t-mobile type either.
 
*tenor voice*
F-F-F-F-F-F-FAAAAKKKKEEEEE

I'm not going to go all out and give every stupid reason why I think it's a fake, I just hate T-Mobile.
 
no idea where the 17 days came from..but if it was 17 more days i'm sure it would be all over the place
 
I think the price of 499€ in the add is pretty close to the price it will go on sale here in Europe.

Just compare the new price of the iPod Touch, 299 dollars in the US and 299€ in Germany.

A 8Gb iPhone is 399 dollars in the US and the new 16Gb could probably cost 499 dollars. And so the iPhone's that Europe will see would probably be 399€ for the 8Gb and 499€ for the 16Gb model.

The 3G (HSDPA) is a must in many European countries because the law requires a phone to be sold by an exclusive deal from a certain mobile carrier to have 3G capabilities.

Still, keeping my fingers crossed that this is for real. :D
 
This probable fake has got me in a right state, though.

Personally, I expect a 16GB iPhone to arrive very soon - if not this year then definitely early next. Here in the UK I would expect the iPhone to launch with 3G but it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me if it didn't.

What would be a deal breaker is the capacity, tariff and handset pricing policy. I'm not splashing out on an 8GB iPhone while there's a 16GB iPod touch available, but then again the iPod touch is practically an iPhone but missing 2 key ingredients for me - always-on data connection (ie EDGE or 3G) and Mail.

I'm also not buying a handset for upwards of £250 from Apple and being asked to pay stupid money by O2 every month for anything less than 150 minutes and 200 texts. At the moment I pay £25 a month for 250 minutes and 500 texts, and I get a poxy meg or so of data for free, but after that I have to pay about a fiver for every few megs of data (I think). It's pretty bad. I'd pay up to about £35-40 maximum on a tariff if I got UNLIMITED data and around 150mins/250 texts, but I just don't see it happening.

So, I'd be happy with just a touch, but the thing is, free WiFi access out and about in the UK is practically none-existant. I gather there's some around the Central London area but although I live in London, I'm rarely in the absolute centre of the city (in fact I generally avoid it) and there aren't nearly enough pubs, bars, coffee shops, bookshops, etc offering free access. So, my WiFi Safari web browsing would be strictly limited to at home (pointless except for novelty value) or the very occasional workplace (I'm a freelance TV cameraman and very few studios, if any, have building-wide WiFi reception - and a lot of jobs are on location).

So, looks like I'm talking myself into an iPhone if I really want touchscreen Safari/Mail etc anywhere I go, but we're back the pricing/capacity issue again, and I already have a clunky old Nokia that can just about handle Gmail just fine.

Such a dilemma... my touch is pre-ordered but I guarantee Apple are waiting till they've got the device into our hands before Jobs bounds cheerfully onto a stage somewhere to announce "Oh by the way, 16GB 3G iPhone in the UK by November! Pretty cool, huh!"




Boom.
 
t-mobile never would use the word "kulthandy"!

some weeks ago a picture of iPhone and a jpg with the exact same slogan "das neue kulthandy aus den usa" was found on the t-mobile.de servers and were taken offline shortly after. this was reported by several news-sites (i think engadget oder gizmodo).
Of course, this doesn't prove it's real; the faker could have easily read and copied this rumor.
 
Just in case this hasn't been posted yet, Europe uses different frequencies for 3G compared to the USA. So any European 3G iPhones probably won't work on 3G networks in the US.
 
I think it has been posted - but anyway most of us in this thread are European anyway. :)
 
Another "expert" to join this board only to let us know about his immaculate German skills.

Read this: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weltzeituhren

There is no entry for "Weltuhr".

But have a look here:

http://www.funkempfang.de/gerpics/staedte/berlin/c02070031.html

Seriously, nobody in Germany will read the word "Weltuhr" and not understand it, and nobody will try to look it up in a dictionary and complain if they can't find it. It is in common use by native speakers, as can be demonstrated by hundreds of websites with German contents using it. It is about as correct as Apple's "think different".

What this _may_ demonstrate is that the advert was indeed created by a native German speaker, as an English speaker using an online dictionary might have come up with an atrocity like "Welttaktgeber" (that's what the Systran translation widget in dashboard gives as the translation for "World Clock").
 
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