I did that (never had the previous versions on this computer) and still no joy. I rebooted and now it all seems to be working now.
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1Password 7 for Mac Launching Today With Redesigned Sidebar, Easier Access to Vaults, and Much More
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It was probably part of version 6 still hanging on for dear life. I've seen that personally on my side but my setup is all kinds of crazy because of development. Hopefully not too many users encounter this though.
Glad you're up and running again!
Ah, that certainly changes things then... Okay, will keep my eyes peeled for anything similar happening then. Sorry you had trouble though. If you encounter anything else please feel free to get in touch.
Will iOS 12 compatible 1P app continue to work/sync correctly with iP6 for Mac licensed users?
Basically wanting to know if I need to start switching.
I'm simply never going to subscribe and I see no reason to update from v6 on macOS anytime soon honestly.
It does everything I need and more.
Basically wanting to know if I need to start switching.
I'm simply never going to subscribe and I see no reason to update from v6 on macOS anytime soon honestly.
It does everything I need and more.
It's tough to tell given we know nothing about iOS 12 or macOS 10.14 (or whatever they end up being). We'll have to wait and see how that all pans out for WWDC.
I'd say you're probably fine using version 6 for awhile, but I wouldn't hang onto it for too long and not update in some form or another. Security improvements and other improvements will eventually only be available by updating. In any normal app not updating might be fine, but in any security related app I would recommend additional caution when staying behind, particularly if staying behind is on purpose.
Hope that helps a little, but I realize it's vague. I just don't know enough details to be able to give you anything more than vague answers to this one. WWDC will tell us a lot more.
I just downloaded 7.0 and installed it with the express purpose of purchasing it outright. I've upgraded 1Password -- and paid for updates as needed -- for each new version since 2.0 (I know this, because it's all recorded in 1Password itself), and it's ALWAYS been worth it. That said...
I don't like it.
For the first time, 1Password feels "busy," littered with tie-ins to other services (haveibeenpwned and watchtower) which seem unsettlingly reminiscent of the IE toolbar creep that led many of us to the Mac in the first place. Otherwise, there's not much "new" there (although the inclusion of markdown within the Notes section is nice).
Really sad to see this, but I guess I'll be sticking with v. 6.x for now. At least until a new version of macOS forces me to move on from an outdated 1Password version. Hoping by then 1P has either gone back to its roots or some other vendor has managed to catch up. Guess I need to start looking.
I don't like it.
For the first time, 1Password feels "busy," littered with tie-ins to other services (haveibeenpwned and watchtower) which seem unsettlingly reminiscent of the IE toolbar creep that led many of us to the Mac in the first place. Otherwise, there's not much "new" there (although the inclusion of markdown within the Notes section is nice).
Really sad to see this, but I guess I'll be sticking with v. 6.x for now. At least until a new version of macOS forces me to move on from an outdated 1Password version. Hoping by then 1P has either gone back to its roots or some other vendor has managed to catch up. Guess I need to start looking.
Probably part of trying to justify upgrades and pricing - can always be a problem sadly.
I'm starting to look also.
The scope is just getting too large and I think they want to force everyone to subscriptions as soon as they can.
Great for them - Not my cup of tea personally.
Sorry you feel this way. So two things, Watchtower includes two services we use here.
The first is haveibeenpwned. We feel this brings an incredible feature to users. Everyone on our team was using it anyway so having it built in just makes it that much easier. We will be extending support for haveibeenpwned in future releases, it certainly isn't going away. It allows users to see exactly what is impacted and they can immediately fix it.
While I understand you're worried about integration here, it's not as though we're doing a ton of work in this regard. It's actually quite simple and it can be easily disabled if you don't wish to use it. But we think you'd be doing yourself a disservice by not using it.
Second, we include a list of sites that support 2FA support. That list, combined with whether or not there's a TOTP field on those items allows us to notify you of whether or not you have 2FA enabled or not. Again, a feature that can be disabled if you wish. But one that is probably better to use than not.
We're not bundling anything with this release, everything we included, at least I think anyway (tell me if I'm somehow wrong here) is completely and totally related to security of your data. Where I'd start seeing negative impact in general would be if we were bundling snake oil type services or allowing companies that pay to be in the app. None of this is happening, in fact we pay for sponsorship on haveibeenpwned.com, so it's the other way around. We believe in the service so much we put our money where our mouths are and want to help make sure it stays around and again, it's something we used well before this feature was ever introduced in beta.
I'd love to know more about your thoughts on this though. Knowing the above, does that help change your opinion of those services and why they were included? If not, what exactly makes you think it's a bad thing.
What, otherwise, do you not particularly like about this release? I'd really encourage you to try it for at least a few days and see how you like it. Your feedback would be very welcome and I'd even provide my email so you could email me directly if you'd be willing to do that.
We can't make 1Password better without feedback, good or bad, we want to hear it. But what I would like is constructive feedback that tells us why something doesn't work for you. The why is probably more important than the rest because we've found everyone uses 1Password differently and your usage may be very different than our own. Without knowing that though we can't try to find ways to iterate and improve on what we have.
Just updated. The new UI and functionality are splendid. Though, I really don't like that my password vault was moved to the web and is managed by AgileBits. I can login to their web-app @1password.com and browse my vault in Safari. So many things can go wrong with this scenario. I have enabled 2FA, but still. Plugins and Extensions (ad blocker) in my browser can easily read my vault if I open it in Safari. Seems that there is no throttling when trying to login with a wrong password to 1password.com. Putting all my secure data in the cloud leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. What happens if 1password.com is compromised? Every black-hat hacker will surely try to break in. And of course, like everyone else I hate the subscription license. Subscribing to a newspaper or web-app is one thing, but having to subscribe to my own secure data sucks. I know that you can buy a single non-subscription license, but then all the cool new things in 1password 7 is not available and upgrade from version 6 is hardly worth it.
I've been beta testing 1Password 7 (largely to take advantage of $39.99 perpetual license promo pricing).
My overall impression? Version 7 not a major upgrade from 6. The UI enhancements are nice and overdue, particularly 1Password mini menubar app.
But there are surprisingly few new features. Many existing features are revisited and improved a bit, but very small in number.
My overall impression? Version 7 not a major upgrade from 6. The UI enhancements are nice and overdue, particularly 1Password mini menubar app.
But there are surprisingly few new features. Many existing features are revisited and improved a bit, but very small in number.
Rest assured, I think 1Password is amazing, and I will continue to use it at least 10 times an hour. I just probably won't upgrade on Day 1 as I have in the past, though, and for now I've returned to my Happy Place in v6.
I'm echoing things I've already said elsewhere on the web and in the AgileBits forums (In fact, apologies if I'm barraging you personally on two fronts at the moment), but in all honesty, Version 4 had everything I've ever needed or wanted in a password manager, and I consider 1P (even at 6) to be one of the few "perfect" applications on my system.
I've happily upgraded to support the cause over the years, and the incremental changes in UI have been welcomed. Unfortunately for AgileBits, though, I honestly don't want it to DO anything other than what it already does. In fact, I'm perfectly happy paying for a no-features-added maintenance release when Apple unveils a new version of MacOS or changes the way its security policies work... but at the risk of sounding like a grumpy old man (I'm getting there quick), I don't WANT anything new from it:
It's perfect. I just want it to stay that way.
You didn't have to choose the option to use 1Password.com, that was an explicit option you choose. The other option was to purchase a standalone license.
Other extensions cannot read what is in your vault. 1Password's data is stored in the app, the extension lives in the browser but only contains the data for the current page you're on when you choose an item. It works like this:
* You visit a page
* You click the 1Password icon, this has the extension send the URL for the current page to 1Password which opens the mini app (it's part of the app, not the browser) and gives it the URL.
* The mini app searches for items that match the URL provided by the extension
* The extension doesn't have access to any data, until you choose an item in the mini
* You choose an item, that data is then sent to the extension which fills it into the page
Once the username and password is in the page, your ad blocker could read it, just like 1Password can when it asks to save an item. We can technically only protect your data within 1Password itself, if you install other browser extensions, or a malicious browser, anything in the browser could easily access the contents of the page, including what's in the username and password fields.
As for your data, it's stored encrypted only on our servers. To decrypt it requires your Master Password and your Secret Key. Your Secret Key looks something like this:
A3-VFCPJF-ABNDJ2-B4C47-9XYC8-AEQNJ-5F8MY
An attacker is going to have to guess both your Master Password and your Secret Key, because neither of those come from us. We never have them, we don't ask for them, they're never transferred to us.
Your logins are throttled, but because a vast bulk of the work to derive the necessary keys to try to login happen locally you will have a harder time to hit the rate limiter. But it does exist and it will prevent someone from making hundreds of guesses (or more) per second. The way your keys are derived locally per login attempt will also limit how quickly someone can guess your Master Password and Secret Key.
We have a Bug Bounty as part of our Bugcrowd program for $100,000 if they can access data they shouldn't have access to. It's been set to that for about a year. No one has come even remotely close to providing anything at all of substance for this. Our service has been available since late 2015 and we've had no situations where data was ever accessed by someone who shouldn't. The only issues we've seen are users who installed malicious tools on their computer that gathered their data. A compromised computer is not something we can protect against, regardless of where your data is.
If you want to learn more about how we protect your data on our servers, I highly recommend checking out our white paper: https://1pw.ca/whitepaper
We went to great lengths to protect user data, more so than any other password manager out there. We are setting the standard here and it's well above anything else out there, including previous versions of 1Password. No one else even comes close.
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For better or worse, all password managers are effectively moving forward. If we stay behind... as you can imagine that wouldn't bode well for us. You're probably in the minority of people who want what you say you want, which wouldn't allow the company to stay alive. We'd have to shutter the company if that's what we provided.
I realize you're probably, at least to some extent, saying this sort of out of desire and realize that reality can't really accommodate what you want. But I wanted to make it a bit more clear.
I understand what you're asking for though... just... I don't see it happening that way.
1Password support told me today that version 7 is not officially released yet.
I'm really not sure why they are sending out press releases that say it is, and then as people have discovered, not actually made it available anywhere. Seems pretty incompetent. It's also infuriating to me that they clearly hide the standalone license information on their site somewhere. There's literally no mention of it when you go to the pricing page. It's as if it's a secret product that you have to be "in the know" about. Even when you do know about it, the download or purchase page is nowhere to be found. I guess I'll just stick with version 6 then.
I'm really not sure why they are sending out press releases that say it is, and then as people have discovered, not actually made it available anywhere. Seems pretty incompetent. It's also infuriating to me that they clearly hide the standalone license information on their site somewhere. There's literally no mention of it when you go to the pricing page. It's as if it's a secret product that you have to be "in the know" about. Even when you do know about it, the download or purchase page is nowhere to be found. I guess I'll just stick with version 6 then.
Uhhh it was released today at 1100 EST.
Get it here: https://app-updates.agilebits.com/download/OPM7
It launched at 11am EST today as was planned. The originally press release had a typo saying "12 a.m." instead of "12 p.m." We failed to inform MR of the correction. Our fault. But it is out now.
It is now available everywhere.
That seems a little harsh, but there was indeed an oversight on our part and we apologize for that.
You're right: standalone isn't in our marketing materials, including the main 1Password.com website. This is intentional. Standalone licenses are considered a more advanced option, and aren't part of the default path. The default path is membership. We did actually include licenses on our pricing page for quite some time, but that was causing much more confusion than not having it and so it was removed.
Purchasing of a standalone license must be done from within the app, which can be downloaded here: https://1password.com/downloads/
The introductory (time limited) price is $50. The "retail" price is $65. We only expect this pricing to be available for a week or so.
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Ben
If you're both on a family account from 1Password.com then sure.
If you're using standalone vaults (synced to Dropbox, iCloud or via WLAN) you cannot purchase from the Mac App Store, it's not available there for that type of purchase.
MAS - Subscription purchases only
Website version - Subscription or license purchases are supported
Our licenses are per user, per platform, so you'd need to purchase two licenses. One for you, one for her. In this case it's probably cheaper to go with the 1Password.com Family subscription.
Let me know if that helps!
Can anyone tell me what the license upgrade will cost and whether it's a permanent or promo price? I simply cannot take the risk of upgrading right now just to check on pricing.
I don’t want to get too far down a rabbit hole here, _but_:
If you have a 1Password membership and download from the Mac App store it is possible to sync your standalone vault via iCloud and ignore the membership vault.
It is _not_ possible to purchase a standalone license from the Mac App Store. If your intention is to use standalone vaults we’d recommend a standalone license and that means downloading 1Password from our website.
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Details are in the blog post ( https://blog.agilebits.com/2018/05/22/1password-7-for-mac-the-best-ever/ ) but the long and short of it is that licenses are $50 currently for a limited time, then $65 thereafter.
Ben
$65 and even $50 seems pretty steep for an upgrade. Will be sticking with version 6 for as long as possible.
Hate software subscriptions so that's a no go.
Hate software subscriptions so that's a no go.
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My understanding was that most new useful functionality were only available with subscription. Such as Watchtower and pwn-check. Glad to hear if I'm wrong. Maybe there is a list describing what functionality standalone licensee's miss out on, if any?
Thanks for the explanation, but I was thinking about, if I visit my vault at https://my.1password.com/vaults/... then all my secret data are fully visible for any extensions that I have in my browser, such as an ad-blocker. I understand the same problem exist when 1P fills in a login form, but that is one credential. It was just a shock to see my whole vault open and all data available in Safari in clear text. I certainly won't dare to use that service anytime.
I don't doubt that 1P the app and vaults are reasonable secure though 256-bit? encryption is not exactly over the top. The new thing now is that you have a cloud service and I'm much more worried that your servers and network might get compromised and hacked into. In that case, will my vault be unavailable at a critical time for me and for how long? Vaults might get tampered with and distributed to my devices or downloaded onto NSA's super secret quantum computer and your mediocre 256 bit encryption easily cracked (the last bit might be a stretch though
OK, I keep reading I can BUY a license. I see NO option for this. On the web site and in app all it wants is subscription. I refuse to do subscription with any application. I love 1password but they make it way too hard to find the single price option. Did it go away or what is the secret?