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1Password 8 for Mac With Improved Interface, Performance, and More Now Available in Early Access
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I’d argue that for something as important as passwords, irrespective of your view on subs, you cannot possibly consider going all in with a company that repeatedly changes its position and paradigm.
Not 12 months ago they were here saying stand-alone licences were not going away.
Sorry but once you get a rep as a bad faith company, it sticks. And you’d be a fool for dropping your mission critical data with such a company.
I've been using it full-time for the last few months. I'd say it is pretty close to being as stable as our 1Password 7 beta releases. That said there are a few features currently missing that we want to add before the stable release. Feedback from users will also help drive what is essential before stable.
Standalone vaults will not be available in 1Password 8. Additional details can be found here.
1Password is terrific app, and I'm delighted to see its continued development. I use it alongside iCloud Keychain, and it's very valuable to me to have something cross platform for occasions when I need to use Windows and Chrombooks.
The whole subscription vs perpetual licence thing seems a bit played out at this point.
To me, all paid software is a subscription, in the sense of being time-limited. I own a copy of Microsoft Office 4 (still got the discs somewhere!) but since I no longer use Windows 3.1 the fact that I hold permanent license is not dreadfully useful.
Ultimately, if we want software to be continually maintained and updated - and I most certainly want that from a password manager - there is going to be an ongoing cost one way or another. I prefer subscriptions because it makes that explicit - this much money for this much time - and I can make a purchasing decision accordingly.
The whole subscription vs perpetual licence thing seems a bit played out at this point.
To me, all paid software is a subscription, in the sense of being time-limited. I own a copy of Microsoft Office 4 (still got the discs somewhere!) but since I no longer use Windows 3.1 the fact that I hold permanent license is not dreadfully useful.
Ultimately, if we want software to be continually maintained and updated - and I most certainly want that from a password manager - there is going to be an ongoing cost one way or another. I prefer subscriptions because it makes that explicit - this much money for this much time - and I can make a purchasing decision accordingly.
They purchased Dark Sky, not Carrot Weather.
I was able to go to v7 with a standalone/perpetual license upgrade back when it came out, though they didn't make it obvious how to do so.
Looks like I'll be sticking with v7 though if there's no non-subscription option for v8.
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being able to buy standalone licenses was one of the key reasons I stay with 1Pass. If it’s subscription, then there’s little stopping me from looking at their competition, especially when work provides a decent discount for some of the other vendors.
Edit: and no more personal vaults
hmm guess I’m on version 7 until it breaks or I move to something else.And just like that you lost another customer. I'll keep using my non-subscription version 7 till it breaks and then switch to something else.
Hey Ben,
A few years ago when Safari dropped support for old extensions, everyone could no longer use 1password in their browser anymore without upgrading. Since this is an App Store app there will be a lot of people who’s app gets automatically updated. Will you make v8 a separate release from v7 or will it automatically advance to v8. How will you insure you don’t break existing setups for users with local vaults on v7? Also, how does this affect iOS users who are syncing over iCloud/Dropbox right now. Will that continue to work even after v8 for desktop gets released?
A few years ago when Safari dropped support for old extensions, everyone could no longer use 1password in their browser anymore without upgrading. Since this is an App Store app there will be a lot of people who’s app gets automatically updated. Will you make v8 a separate release from v7 or will it automatically advance to v8. How will you insure you don’t break existing setups for users with local vaults on v7? Also, how does this affect iOS users who are syncing over iCloud/Dropbox right now. Will that continue to work even after v8 for desktop gets released?
Ben.....please address the standalone license issue. It used to be available but you had to almost get a secret code to get to it on your website. Quite sleazy. If you sell it make it as visible as the sub option.
Now you don't offer it at all. Is this correct?
Now you don't offer it at all. Is this correct?
Download that from App Store. Awhile back Apple moved to have Safari extensions in the App Store. Once I did that I doubled clicked on the icon in the /Applications folder to go thru the setup process.
hope they stop asking for the master password and evolve to use FaceID or touchID as the main app authentication..
of course, after setup is complete
of course, after setup is complete
Really happy 1Password family user here. My whole family uses it. Secure notes, ability to write down the 3 questions in password notes, see history of passwords used, do 2FA, sharing passwords to family members, and have it all synced to every device I use? Win. Been working for me for a few years now and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Looking forward to the update!
1Password is everything I wish iCloud Keychain was. The watch integration is something I utilize constantly. I keep hoping apple will one day expand keychains functionality..
You skip over the part where many here prefer to choose whether or not to buy an upgrade at a particular point in time.
Not to mention that if I'd bought the $3/mo subscription in October 2018, I'd be out of pocket for $102 vs the $50 I spent.
Glancing at the v8 feature set I'm not currently seeing anything that would be worth upgrading.
Each to their own though.
I think 1Password is a good product overall and a good fit for many people. However, I was one of those standalone license purchases for 1Password 7, which was years ago and I paid much less than I would with a subscription. There's been some UI issues with 1Password that have been annoying me. Plus I really don't need all the new bells and whistles that get added that justify the higher price. I just want my passwords securely stored and available. I took the removal of the license choice as my motivation to start shopping around. Really liked what I read about Bitwarden for multiple reasons and ended up switching recently. Really happy I did it. I'm not a never-subscription person. In fact I already signed up for the Bitwarden one.being able to buy standalone licenses was one of the key reasons I stay with 1Pass. If it’s subscription, then there’s little stopping me from looking at their competition, especially when work provides a decent discount for some of the other vendors.
Edit: and no more personal vaults
Please don't mess this up, all other apps that use Electron (Evernote, Signal, Slack etc) are pretty unreliable on the Mac right now and I really can't afford for 1Password to go down the same route as we use that in a team of 5 people almost constantly and it would be a nightmare for any instability to appear.
Thank you!
lol - feature set. “Performance as a feature” - what crap.
I’m cynical based on that now infamous blog spot at Agile Bits detailing the debauchery of their annual Caribbean booze cruise, but it looks like the steady subscription income has gone solely into creating a version of 1P that is subs only.
Where are the features people have asked for? Hell, they won’t even sort out gift cards for .ca and .eu users because apparently they’re still a humble start up with no time… but always straight on stuff that embeds subs further and further.
That link to Dave Teare’s post earlier was instructive. And if you fall for the “our customers preferred subs” after they made it near impossible to get a stand-alone licence these past five years (aka bent the rules of the game to get the result they wanted) then more fool you.
I don't have a major problem with paying a subscription.
I DO have a problem with being forced to do the cloud version 1Password.com option.
I will continue using version 7 with wi-fi sync until it stops working.
I hope they reconsider forcing people to put their passwords in the cloud in order to use the latest version.
I DO have a problem with being forced to do the cloud version 1Password.com option.
I will continue using version 7 with wi-fi sync until it stops working.
I hope they reconsider forcing people to put their passwords in the cloud in order to use the latest version.
Keychain is fine for what it is, and is likely a great fit for those with fairly basic uses.
1Password provides features and flexibility not present in keychain, and has been a great tool over the years.
Unfortunately, the lack of a standalone license and lack of standalone vaults means v8 is a hard no for me. I'll stay on with v7 while it's viable, but will be seeking another platform.
Same thing here