I see. How about with my windows machines? Apple is great I’m all in most of the times. But I have windows laptop for side project and I don’t think I will be able to access my password and such.
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1Password 8 for Mac With Improved Interface, Performance, and More Now Available in Early Access
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Exactly what I just found when wondering why the UI was so laggy, checked the app bundle and there it was `Electron.framework`.
How this benefits users I have no idea, now we get a laggy, memory hogging, slow web app in the guise of a native app. Hardly an upgrade is it.
Very disappointing, while I understand that they wanted to build-once ship across platforms, they didn't have to go this low.
Yeah for cross platform you’d be definitely better with a third party solution. I’m not aware of a way to open iCloud Keychain on a windows machine
i'm very interested to see how this turns out! It looks awesome. my company uses this for work, and i like it.
Personally i prefer bitwarden, but 1password is a good option as well. i'd choose either over lastpass any day.
Personally i prefer bitwarden, but 1password is a good option as well. i'd choose either over lastpass any day.
The verbal gymnastics on the 1P Twitter feed is a joy. Support swinging between denial of Electron to just not answering to telling blue ticks it’s a great implementation if they just try it to total silence when those blue ticks come back and report it to be sluggish AF.
It’s a genuine clusterfudge of a release. Penny for Dave and Roustem’s thoughts. Was selling out to vulture capital worth it just to see your app destroyed?
The cost of a cup of coffee a day here, a coffee a day there; pretty soon it adds up to real money and less coffee.
Why would I ever upload all my passwords and ID into the cloud of a 3rd party that could be bought by FB, AMZN or Google tomorrow is beyond me. And then paying for it on a monthly basis even more.
If Apple would just come up with a nice GUI for keychain … the new features in iOS15 are great. Specifically the 2FA integration.
If Apple would just come up with a nice GUI for keychain … the new features in iOS15 are great. Specifically the 2FA integration.
I've been a customer since 1password 2. Apple's u-turn on privacy, no standalone vaults, and no wifi-syncing means that this is the end of the road for me.
Hello! 👋
1Password 8 will be released as a new/separate offering. 1Password 7 will not automatically update to it.
You are correct: we no longer offer licenses for any versions of our products.
For context: the screenshot is of a post from 2016. At the time, we did not have any such plans. But that was 5 years ago.
This is a solved problem now with Shared Lock State if you use either 1Password 7 or 1Password 8 alongside 1Password in the Browser. If you're still having to do this, please reach out to our support team. We'll be happy to get you to a better state.
Please do report any performance issues you come across. We're serious about making this an app that performs well.
I'm indefinitely stuck on an old version due to the unfortunate choice to stop doing regular licenses and standalone vaults. Using 1Password these days is more like being in a hostage situation than a paying customer at a vault.
I'm sad... after so many years of 1password I will have to switch to a different solution.
I new this happen at some point, but it still hurts. My passwords will never be in the cloud.
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It doesn't - it benefits AgileBits
I agree - if 3 usd / month is the cost of doing business then so be it - it saves me enough minutes per day to make it worthwhile.
Same w.r.t. the podcast app subscription. I use that for many hours per week.
Apple went to "free" (HW subsidised) OS updates to prevent the neverending WinXP support that bogged MS for ages, creating botnets that effect us all.
It's been that way for a long time.
I learned many years ago to not even bother with their forum also, unless you just want PR speak thrown back at you.
You are just showing the 1Password 8 parent process, but what about the footprint of the rest of the subprocesses? Every Electron app that I've ever seen also has renderer and GPU processes, which take up a significant amount of resources.
You are definitely shooting yourselves in the foot by killing your native app in favor of an Electron one, by the way. No other password manager developer offers a high-quality, native Map app to their users. It was a major selling point, and you are throwing it away.
That is at least a silver lining to hold people over for a while if they need it.
The out to the street MASSIVE lines at Starbucks in my area tells me most people don't really care.
I get what I need out of this application. I've been using password managers since the days of KeePass. I can't imagine life without them. My job, my life make it worthwhile to me. For others, I can understand how it may not.
I don't go to Starbucks. I buy my own coffee, use a burr grinder, and put it in a reusable k-cup for my coffee and I'm happy with that.
Am I happy everything is moving to subscription model? Nope. I use a lot less apps today than I used to and I'm a lot less willing to try new things because of subscriptions. So, I get that.
This is super disappointing. 1Password having a native Mac app is the main reason I recommended it to quite literally dozens of my friends. Now instead it's just another janky Electon + React pile of NPM dependencies.
Any company can charge fees for providing updates and that's fine. Sketch does this. The issue is that there's no reason 1Password should have removed standalone vaults, except to hold their customers hostage.
I'm willing to pay a reasonable annual fee (or equivalent) to keep this sort of app alive -- the alternative is an app that you rely on either unexpectedly goes bankrupt or goes down the scummy ad-supported path.
The problem with 1Password is that they never actually made clear WTF they were doing, and I still don't understand it.
The transition to 7 was presented not as "we need to go to a subscription because business reasons" but as "7 gives you <new feature I don't understand but which seems to have no relevance to me>, and otherwise just stick with 6".
And this remains the case today.
1Password committed the classic blunder of assuming that everyone in the world cares about their app in minute detail, whereas the reality is I care about the app to the extent that it works, with maybe willingness to devote *1 minute* to learning anything beyond that. If you can convince, in 1 minute, WHY I should subscribe to 7, or now 8, fine. But they have not used that 1 minute wisely.
Even now this article says what?
- faster? I have zero problems with current 1Password speed
- new UI? The old UI works fine for me
And mixed in with that is all sort of complexity about multiple vaults, shared vaults, and suchlike.
It's fine to include these extra details for people who want them. But I fully expect MOST users are like me. All they care about is "1 Password holds my secret data across multiple devices", with zero interest in complexity beyond that. When the selling point of 7 (and now 8) is "you can make your use more complex" you ARE GOING TO DRIVE AWAY MOST CUSTOMERS. How can you not get this?
You make the specialized stuff hidden in the UI, and you put it in the asterisks at the bottom of your ad copy!!!
Apple gets this. If you make specialized stuff the centerpiece of the "new in 7, and now new in 8" campaign, the message you are sending is "7 and 8 have no relevance, in fact are probably antithetical, to you, mainstream customer".
A password manager is such an import application to me that I would buy each new version released: probably $60 every 3 years or so which is $20/year. However a subscription runs $36/year which is almost double. If a subscription were available for $25/year as an up-front payment I would partake. Perhaps $40/year for two people would tempt me too. As it is I can only see any real value in family plans if there were enough people in my family to use it.