Keychain has come a long way, but 1P still offers a ton of nice/helpful/useful features that Keychain doesn’t support.it only works on Apple. If you’re using just Apple stuff, might as well just use KeyChain.
Keychain has come a long way, but 1P still offers a ton of nice/helpful/useful features that Keychain doesn’t support.it only works on Apple. If you’re using just Apple stuff, might as well just use KeyChain.
The standalone 1P 7.8 iOS and Mac app do still support local vaults, it’s just the new iOS Safari extension that doesn’t support them. 1P 8 is the version that will completely drop local vaults.They just screwed thousands of users by removing the standalone feature in version 7.8 without warning. Glad I didn't hit the update button.
Yup exactly why I don't feel safe uploading to their server, but then again I'm currently using iCloud vault. I just signed up for 7-day trial. It's ok I don't think I want to pay for $3 a month to have someone keep my password.The iOS extension specifically does NOT work with local vaults. Thus, you must have a subscription AND store all your passwords on 1P’s servers. Thus, subscriptions + non-local vaults are nearly inseparable at this point.
I had the exact same experience today. It’s a shame as I’ve been using 1Password for the better part of a decade. I guess I’ll use the standalone version until it’s gone and then just jump over to Keychain. I was really hoping they wouldn’t go this route.I was excited to see this until the plug-in notified me that it doesn’t support standalone vaults and asked me to subscribe. I just disabled it instead, since I have no interest in their subscription. Particularly now that Keychain natively supports 2FA.
I agree with you 100%, but Minimalist password manager also (from the looks of it) only works with Apple stuff also.Keychain has come a long way, but 1P still offers a ton of nice/helpful/useful features that Keychain doesn’t support.
I'm still using old version I will never use subscription what if they get hacked all your passwords for every single sites you visit will exposed?
Quite true, so really isn't a true solution for cross-platform users. But Minimalist does support a lot more features than Keychain does.I agree with you 100%, but Minimalist password manager also (from the looks of it) only works with Apple stuff also.
While that is an incredibly clever idea, what made the 1Password local vaults so great is that they didn't have to be stored in the cloud, thus not making the double-blind password approach to even be necessary. With 1P8 dropping local vault support (and the 1P7 iOS Safari extension only support online vaults) AgileBits is decreasing user security, and making such a double-blind password approach somewhat necessary.This is what I do:
While that is an incredibly clever idea, what made the 1Password local vaults so great is that they didn't have to be stored in the cloud, thus not making the double-blind password approach to even be necessary. With 1P8 dropping local vault support (and the 1P7 iOS Safari extension only support online vaults) AgileBits is decreasing user security, and making such a double-blind password approach somewhat necessary.
Nope. Most Keepass-compatible apps don't, for example. They also use a standardized database format (so you're not locked into a specific app) and many are open source, so their implementations can be audited.Every password manager out there uses cloud hosting, including Apple. 1Password is the most secure and robust from all. I have been using it from 13 years.
That's simple not true. The current 1Password 7 supports local vaults. These vaults can be stored in iCloud or Dropbox (or whatever other cloud service you want to use), but they DON'T have to be. A local vault can be stored 100% only on your local computer. These vaults can even by synced to your iPhone via a WiFi sync on you local network, so the vault never once leaves your local network, and never once touches a 3rd party server.The subscription has nothing to do with hosting in the cloud.
Every password manager out there uses cloud hosting, including Apple. 1Password is the most secure and robust from all. I have been using it from 13 years.
I use Bitwarden and while you can transfer data it’s not a 1 to 1. Some data, such as credit/bank accounts come across with odd mappings and attachments aren’t transferred.In addition in a number of cases BW, even when it has the pw, doesn’t recognize the site and returns no PW found. I like BW and even paid for it to support it’s developers but it can be frustrating when passwords you know it has don’t show up.I too am still using the old version, and will never go subscription.
A free open-source equivalent worth checking out is Bitwarden: https://bitwarden.com. I haven't tried it yet but believe you can transfer your data from 1-password.
I'm still using old version I will never use subscription what if they get hacked all your passwords for every single sites you visit will exposed?
“We use open standards that are scrutinized by the experts.Nope. Most Keepass-compatible apps don't, for example. They also use a standardized database format (so you're not locked into a specific app) and many are open source, so their implementations can be audited.
Looks like Bitwarden is still cloud based. Does it support local-only vaults?I too am still using the old version, and will never go subscription.
A free open-source equivalent worth checking out is Bitwarden: https://bitwarden.com. I haven't tried it yet but believe you can transfer your data from 1-password.
That doesn't address the fact the 1P8 only supports online vaults. I don't care how secure 1P's servers are, how secure the vault's encryption is, the minute that vaults leaves my computer it becomes a security risk. I don't have to worry about that with 1P7, nor do you have to worry about that with the plethora of KeePass-compatible programs.“We use open standards that are scrutinized by the experts.
1Password wasn’t built in a vacuum. It was developed on top of open standards that anyone with the right skills can investigate, implement, and improve. We collaborate with other security experts to make sure 1Password is rock solid.”
Security Principles and Features | 1Password
1Password keeps your data safe by combining an account password and Secret Key. Learn more about our security and why it makes 1Password the best password manager.1password.com
That doesn't mean that their implementation can be audited. Personally I would never use a password manager that isn't open source. Password databases are obviously a very juicy target.“We use open standards that are scrutinized by the experts.
1Password wasn’t built in a vacuum. It was developed on top of open standards that anyone with the right skills can investigate, implement, and improve. We collaborate with other security experts to make sure 1Password is rock solid.”
Security Principles and Features | 1Password
1Password keeps your data safe by combining an account password and Secret Key. Learn more about our security and why it makes 1Password the best password manager.1password.com
I was point out the open source part, that’s all.That doesn't address the fact the 1P8 only supports online vaults. I don't care how secure 1P's servers are, how secure the vault's encryption is, the minute that vaults leaves my computer it becomes a security risk. I don't have to worry about that 1P7, nor do you have to worry about that with the plethora of KeePass-compatible programs.
That doesn't address the fact the 1P8 only supports online vaults. I don't care how secure 1P's servers are, how secure the vault's encryption is, the minute that vaults leaves my computer it becomes a security risk. I don't have to worry about that 1P7, nor do you have to worry about that with the plethora of KeePass-compatible programs.
Really? What magical encryption are they using in their cloud "vault"?The 1Password cloud vault is also protected with FAR better encryption than the local vault you are using.
Really? What magical encryption are they using in their cloud "vault"?
That can be done with local databases too. For example, Keepass apps support key files in addition to the password, and some even authentication via Yubikey (challenge/response protocol).It requires more than your master password to decrypt it.