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The potential local vault option for 1Password 8 essentially requires you to run a full blown instance of 1Password.com on a dedicated computer. That adds an incredible amount of complication for the average user that doesn't want to store their password in 1P's cloud. Plus, there is no guarantee the team at Agile Bits will actually do this. At this point, and it pains me to say this, I don't trust a damn word that comes out of their mouth (or more accurately out of their fingers).

I'm not convinced they'll offer a local vault option either. They have enough problems with people concerned/outraged about electron atm. Them promising to look into local vaults may be them just wanting to calm some of the noise down.
 
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I'm not convinced they'll offer a local vault option either. They have enough problems with people concerned/outraged about electron atm. Them promising to look into local vaults may be them just wanting to calm some of the noise down.
I imagine that is definitely a part of it. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a beloved company such as Agile Bits completely self-destruct in such a short period of time. Truthfully, it is heart breaking.
 
Sadly it only works with the cloud subscription :mad:

While I don't have a problem with paying them the price for the subscription I would never ever transfer my most important secrets or passwords in the cloud. No matter how secure they claim it is. There is no 100% security.

I would even pay more if the offer a "Pro" subscription (for the app not the cloud) which let me keep all my private data offline on device and in sync over my local network (like up until now).
 
Of course my computer is not immune. The difference is two fold. One, I am in complete control of my data. If I want to be super paranoid and have my 1P vault stored on a computer that is always disconnected from the internet I can. Or I could run it in a fully isolated VM. Two, and this cannot be overstated, my computer has an infinitesimally smaller attack surface than 1Password's servers have.

The bottom line is this - by forcing its user to store their password vault on a cloud server, AgileBits is decreasing the security for its users. Full stop, end of story.

Whilst you may perceive your last sentence as true, I’d love to explain something a security expert explained to me:

Time and resources taken to try and access your files and passwords stored on your device would equate to roughly £90,000.

Time and resources taken to try and access your files and passwords on a 3rd party 3-key encryption would equate to £3,000,000.

I would have to be certain, in both regards, that your passwords are worth at least £90,000 for it to be worth it.

Her point to me was that whilst having it stored locally is still a large undertaking for criminals, having it stored otherwise is a bigger deterrent.

It was interesting to chat to her. So yes while you perceive your choice to be MORE secure, it is no MORE secure than the other option and in some regards, has less deterrents in front of it than storing otherwise.

I once knew someone who used a password manager, stored locally and had a YubiKey. He was robbed at knife point in a cafe! These thugs are starting to get wise, sadly!

edit: they even took his cap and watch. Ridiculous!
 
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This Is a really low blow move from 1passsword - to all the users across the world who have auto-update because they used to trust 1Password. They have lost all respect for being customer-focused and about the experience - the user. It’s why I bought into them. They have royally pissed a lot of users off and the only recourse is to enable standalone vaults and not forcing people to subscribe because otherwise, it’s a crippled app.
 
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They just screwed thousands of users by removing the standalone feature in version 7.8 without warning. Glad I didn't hit the update button.

Sad isn't it. Agile bits ain't what they used to be....was a time they would never do such a thing.
Suggest take a look at The 1Password Migrants thread there is a lot of helpful information there.
Several password managers are discussed that dont require you to keep all your data on the developers server, dont stop you keeping a local vault of your own data, dont rely on browser extensions to work, dont use Electron as the apps base and dont want a monthly subscription for the rest of your life. Some are open source, almost all are cheaper than 1P.
 
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Now if only they weren’t about to force all their users to store their vaults in their own cloud service with no other choices…
 
Its obvious that greed has taken over this company but we have a voice. Find a partial replacement and keep your wallet in your pocket for now. Its the only thing greed understands.
 
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You guys know that you DON’T HAVE TO enable/install the safari extension, and just keep using the app like you did before whether you have a subscription or not. Just because the app suggests you the use of the extension doesn’t mean that you have to do it.
 
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So am I right in thinking that, to keep my standalone 1Password working which syncs its vault via Dropbox, I should disable automatic app updates and not update to the next version?

But even if that's so, I guess at some point the current version will become unusable, somehow.

This is not good.
 
I'm still on 6 as well.. my problem is that I'm on a 10 year old Mac, and while it's still solid (hasn't had a single bit of repair/service), I can't go any further on MacOS than Sierra (High Sierra crashes horribly on it), and since this year is the last year of Intel CPUs, I'll be going Silicon. Normally that wouldn't be a problem, but since 1Password 7 is available, but the ability to purchase standalone licenses is NOT available, I'm stuck for as long as Rosetta works when I get a new Mac.

A few months ago (May) I upgraded my mid-2011 iMac to one of the new M1 24" iMacs. 1Password 6 survived the transition. I didn't do anything special and it works just the same. So I think you should be good to go.
 
can anyone recommend password software that supports multiple vaults?

I have been using 1P for years and years with two vaults (work vault on dropbox and personal on iCloud) but have zero interest in subscribing (can I even continue to have two vaults if I do subscribe?). I've tried bitwarden but, from what I can tell, only supports one vault and just seems more annoying to use. I've also currently trying minimalist but it too seems to be only one vault and even with that one vault, I can't seem to get it to appear in safari as an option to fill in a password (looks like safari autofill is only supported in Big Sur which my iMac can't upgrade to) - so it doesn't seem to do the one job it's supposed to do.
 
A few months ago (May) I upgraded my mid-2011 iMac to one of the new M1 24" iMacs. 1Password 6 survived the transition. I didn't do anything special and it works just the same. So I think you should be good to go.
you are good to go for a little while. their desktop safari extension changed and the new version only supports the subscription account. you need to download the previous extension, which you have to hunt for on their website and is no longer supported... it's only a matter of time before that safari extension no longer works
 
I'm now getting 1PW through work so I don't care at the moment but once that's over there is no way I will pay for a subscription fee. Minimalist Password is looking good to me.
 
you are good to go for a little while. their desktop safari extension changed and the new version only supports the subscription account. you need to download the previous extension, which you have to hunt for on their website and is no longer supported... it's only a matter of time before that safari extension no longer works
Fair enough. I'm mostly using Chrome, so it's been OK. But good point.
 
can anyone recommend password software that supports multiple vaults?

I have been using 1P for years and years with two vaults (work vault on dropbox and personal on iCloud) but have zero interest in subscribing (can I even continue to have two vaults if I do subscribe?). I've tried bitwarden but, from what I can tell, only supports one vault and just seems more annoying to use. I've also currently trying minimalist but it too seems to be only one vault and even with that one vault, I can't seem to get it to appear in safari as an option to fill in a password (looks like safari autofill is only supported in Big Sur which my iMac can't upgrade to) - so it doesn't seem to do the one job it's supposed to do.
One of the Keepass apps (e.g. KeepassXC or Strongbox). You can have as many databases as you want, and store them where you want. KeepassXC doesn't have a Safari extension, but there is one for Firefox or Chrome/Brave, and it has autotype that works everywhere (but is admittedly a little less convenient). Strongbox supports autofill, but only in Big Sur.
 
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You guys know that you DON’T HAVE TO enable/install the safari extension, and just keep using the app like you did before whether you have a subscription or not. Just because the app suggests you the use of the extension doesn’t mean that you have to do it.
The share sheet feature removed in 7.8 update without prior notice.
 
This is not accurate.

You don’t lose functionality when upgrading to 7.8 if you use an iCloud synched vault. It continues to work as normal without a subscription. You don’t get to use the new Safari extension, but you can password fill using the same method you did under iOS 14.
you do lose forms autofill since they deactivated the share sheet function.
 
The bottom line is this - 1Password has never been hacked. Users computers are being hacked, tracked and exploited every single day. Full stop, end of story.

And just because they have never been hacked doesn't mean that they will NOT be hacked.

I mean, PasswordState is one of those places that has "never been hacked". Oh, wait:


Every single user of those services had to go around and change all of the passwords they had held in those services. That's a LOT. And personally, with having been part of an organization maintained a HIPAA-compliant database that was breached and exposed, that's a LOT of changes and disclosure that has to be done, causing that company's users to have to not only change passwords, but get fraud monitoring services due to the extent of the damage caused by that "hack".

Never say Never.. heh; Never Say Never Again. - James Bond.

Are you talking about WLAN server sync? If so, that is still available in 7.8.

Yes, this. Thanks. My Mac is basically being the server for WLAN server sync. If that is still there, then I'm okay. I'll give it a shot on my iPad and see what I get.

BL.
 
A few months ago (May) I upgraded my mid-2011 iMac to one of the new M1 24" iMacs. 1Password 6 survived the transition. I didn't do anything special and it works just the same. So I think you should be good to go.

Oooh... good to know.. Could you tell if 1Password 6 was running under Rosetta, or is it running natively?

BL.
 
The share sheet feature removed in 7.8 update without prior notice.
That is good to know. I hardly ever use the share sheet. That’s why I didn’t notice. I don’t have a 1P subscription, and 1P is acting like it always does even without the extension.

Why would they remove the share sheet, though?
 
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