1Password Will Support Passkeys Starting in Early 2023

[SFjohn]

$3 a month isn’t bad for the two of us under 1 account with 2 personal subfolders, one for each of us… plus it’s been rock solid and we’ve dumped Dropbox. 👍🏻

 

[jasonsmith_88]

1password 6 still works in Ventura, so I'm good, thanks!

Exactly. People who paid for 1Password can still use the version they paid for. I’m not entirely sure why so many people expect unlimited lifetime upgrades after paying a single licensing fee. Do you also get angry when your barista charges you for your second coffee?

 

[canadianpj]

Perhaps you did not know (or perhaps you do?), that 1Password did not begin with their own cloud service at all. For a long time, it allowed syncing using various 3rd party cloud services (e.g., dropbox or iCloud). Basically, you were syncing a file across platforms. Or, it even allowed wifi sync meaning the file would exist on your Mac and your various iDevices would sync using local Wifi.

They've since sunset those services after version 7. I believe 1Password version 8 is the latest version and does not support local wifi sync or sync with 3rd party services.

I am well aware of the past of 1Password but also realize that companies like to make money and people paying once, or rarely between major versions, does not cut it anymore.

I am fine with the current implementation and no concerns.

 

[Cristim74]

Can I add another ad?

I'm also a 1Password 8 user and I enjoy it very much on my iPhone, iPad, Mac and PC.
As someone said, you can genuinely like a product even if others don't.

 

[dypeterc]

Do people hate electron for a reason or just because that's what geeks are supposed to do?

The new version looks fine, works fine, does 100% of what I need it to do. It would have been rather, or greatly, foolish of me to ditch it because it's using an unpopular framework?

It's resource intensive and not native. If I'm paying for a Mac app (even through subscription) give me a Mac-native app. Switch to iCloud Keychain and the password management especially when it comes to inputting passwords into login fields is so much cleaner

 

[GreyHairedPinkGlassesGuy]

I'm not affiliated to 1Password in any way.

I don't know what world you live in, but it's actually possible to genuinely love a product or service that you use and want to tell other people about it.

I especially felt compelled to do it after reading the first replies in this thread, which to me seemed almost toxic in the way they complained about 1Password being a subscription service (as if that makes it somehow a bad product or a product made by an evil company).

Stuff can actually be good sometimes and worth paying a subscription. Cheer up.

There are "those" that don't feel the day is complete if they can't crap on other's opinions. Which is fine, actually. It's what makes the world more entertaining.

I posted above in this thread about my opinion (and opinion is all that it is) about subscription based software and my feelings about the 1P product.

Opine away my fellow nerds and friends. Without healthy discourse, we just devolve into snarling jackals looking for the weak to pounce upon.

And that is not a world I would like to live in, mostly!

Peace,
GHPGG

 

[No5tromo]

Any word on Dashlane supporting this? I hate migrations but it looks like an essential feature, I am tired with all the passwords and 2FA mess. I am literally locked out of my amazon account because I had set 2FA on my business number but guess what I left that job and now I don't own the number and I have to make an international call to the US or Germany to be unlocked, this is an utter mess.

 

[Apple_Robert]

I hope the Numbers spreadsheet is also encrypted when it's password protected, but I suspect it isn't? I mean, does Numbers also encrypt the spreadsheet when it's password protected?

No, it does not. That has to be done manually by the user using a third party app.

 

[GreyHairedPinkGlassesGuy]

Any word on Dashlane supporting this? I hate migrations but it looks like an essential feature, I am tired with all the passwords and 2FA mess. I am literally locked out of my amazon account because I had set 2FA on my business number but guess what I left that job and now I don't own the number and I have to make an international call to the US or Germany to be unlocked, this is an utter mess.

Using SMS (tied to a phone number) for 2FA sounded good on paper until SIM jacking became a thing. Another good reason to let SMS based 2FA DIAF. Wow, can I get any more TLA's into that response.

Passkeys should obviate any need for 2FA since your device will vouch for your identity with no 2FA needed.

Hopefully.

 

[Steve121178]

I love 1Password. To me it's truly the best way to manage your passwords and the best way to access them from any device you own, no matter the OS.

It's a delight to use and you get a consistent experience across all your devices. It just works.

The fact that I will be able to use passkeys in the same consistent way on my Mac, iPhone, iPad, gaming PC and the occasional Linux VM is just pure gold to me.

It was good, but version 8 has destroyed everything.

I can't really use it on my Macs as the app keeps stealing focus and popping up. An issue they acknowledged back in May and still haven't fixed. If anything it's got worse as their forums are full of people moaning about it.

1Password is the first Electron app that I am quite happy to moan about. It's awful and they've completely ruined their app. When my subscription expires I will NOT be renewing.

No one should continue to pay for this crap.

 

[ChromeCloud]

I can't really use it on my Macs as the app keeps stealing focus and popping up. An issue they acknowledged back in May and still haven't fixed. If anything it's got worse as their forums are full of people moaning about it.

1Password is the first Electron app that I am quite happy to moan about. It's awful and they've completed ruined their app. When my subscription expires I will NOT be renewing.

I'd prefer it not to be an Electron app as well, but I can see how that makes sense for a password manager that needs to offer a consistent experience on many different platforms.

I don't like middlewares and I understand all the associated drawbacks (generic look and feel, big memory footprint, lack of support for platform specific features), but it kind of makes sense in this case and it probably saves the team a lot of time that could be better spent developing new features.

Even if it's an Electron app now, I still find it's a joy to use and the only sane way to organize and access all my passwords on all my devices/browsers.

About the "stealing focus" issue, I found some information that might help you solve the problem:

Source: 1Password 8 keeps stealing focus on Mac

 

[janwerbinski]

Why pay subscription for inferior product from company with history of vulnerabilites exploited by hackers?
Why not open source, zero knowledge encryption, better, self hosted and FREE solution?

 

[Lioness~]

Thank you all, this thread made me decide to jump on the new 1Password subscription.
I've been hesitating, but this thread have clarified things.

We live in a time when subscriptions are increasing, whether we like it or not. It may be a more reliable source for developers, as well as other services. We can't choose them all, just what are of value for us. Keeping my passwords and everything else I store in the app, is important.
When and if we change our mind and don't find value in it, we can cancel in an instant.
I actually signed up for another subscription a few moments ago. Not an app, so they counts up.

 

[ChromeCloud]

Why pay subscription for inferior product from company with history of vulnerabilites exploited by hackers?
Why not open source, zero knowledge encryption, better, self hosted and FREE solution?

I love open source software, what would you recommend?

 

[japanime]

I'd prefer it not to be an Electron app as well, but I can see how that makes sense for a password manager that needs to offer a consistent experience on many different platforms.

I don't like middlewares and I understand all the associated drawbacks (generic look and feel, big memory footprint, lack of support for platform specific features), but it kind of makes sense in this case and it probably saves the team a lot of time that could be better spent developing new features.

Even if it's an Electron app now, I still find it's a joy to use and the only sane way to organize and access all my passwords on all my devices/browsers.

About the "stealing focus" issue, I found some information that might help you solve the problem:
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Source: 1Password 8 keeps stealing focus on Mac

The solution offered in that post you shared is to install a beta version of 1Password. But the post was written in June. Is the "solution" still in beta five months later?

 

[ackmondual]

It's always good to have 1Password threads on here so everyone can express their delight for subscription-based software! 😃

But the gradual roll out of passkeys is great and much welcome news.

If we need more "yin yang" in this department, I'll suggest we start a complaints thread how Apple One is also a subscription

 

[Mr. Heckles]

Moved on to Minimalist. They crippled their software to a 5MB file limit for lifetime license holders, and the only "fix" was to pay their monthly ransom.

Hell of a thing for those of us who paid a significant amount for a lifetime license. They can get stuffed.

They never called it a life time license. Ever. I saw this post on Reddit, it explains it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/1Password/comments/y5vvwz/_/ismhbqy

AgileBits Software Licenses

I also have a couple “lifetime licenses” (I can think of off the top of my head BetterTouchTool and Apollo Ultra) but I understand that’s the lifetime of the software, not my lifetime. I don’t expect those developers to keep developing for me, forever.

Fun fact: AgileBits, as they were known at the time, never called it a “lifetime license.” They just called it a license. Then, at the time you could have a membership or a stand-alone, they called it a “perpetual license.” The phrase “lifetime license” when it comes to 1Password, is something some customers invented so they could complain about then not having a lifetime license.

If you want to know the original license agreement at the time of 1Password 6, emphasis mine:

Our software is licensed per person and per platform, not per device. Each user and each platform requires a license. Licenses can be shared by up to six family members living in the same household. Licenses can not be transfered or re-sold.

When you purchase AgileBits software your license will never expire and you can use it on the current version of the licensed application indefinitely. While the license itself will never expire, system updates from Apple could cause certain aspects of some software to stop working. For example, the Safari 5 upgrade stopped 1Password 2 from working correctly and required an updated version of 1Password.

Historically, AgileBits has been very generous with upgrades. Your purchase entitles you to free updates until the next major version upgrade. That means if you buy a license for version 2 of a product, you will get all 2.x releases for free, but upgrading to version 3 might require another purchase.

So they literally called out the possibility of something like a browser update causing a multiple-versions old 1Password to stop working, in the license agreement written five years before Google broke compatibility for 1Password 6.

 

[ChromeCloud]

The solution offered in that post you shared is to install a beta version of 1Password. But the post was written in June. Is the "solution" still in beta five months later?

I don’t know.

I’ve always run the latest stable version on my Mac and I never came across that problem.

I was just trying to be helpful.

 

[kpluck]

I love how people think they should be able to spent $10 and have lifetime usage of software with free upgrades...

Straw man, thy name is MacBoy88.

 

[TriBruin]

Why pay subscription for inferior product from company with history of vulnerabilites exploited by hackers?
Why not open source, zero knowledge encryption, better, self hosted and FREE solution?

Why make baseless accusations except to cause trouble?

Please provide a list of "vulnerabilities exploited by hackers?" related to 1Password. Better, point to ONE password that has been compromised because it was saved in a 1Password vault.

 

[Mr. Heckles]

Why pay subscription for inferior product from company with history of vulnerabilites exploited by hackers?
Why not open source, zero knowledge encryption, better, self hosted and FREE solution?

Proof?

open source doesn’t mean it’s more safer.

"Open Source" Does Not Always Equal "Safe"

On this website, and on many other privacy and security websites, you will find people espousing the gospel of open source technology. Th...

blog.thenewoil.org

Open source software security vulnerabilities exist for over four years before detection

 

[svish]

Hoping to see Passkeys being widely adopted in the near future.

 

[E.Lizardo]

So now it is time for me to push my favorite password manager to step up and join in. Bitwarden. Great features, service, and all for free.

Sounds interesting. I'll check it out. Thanks!

 

[drumcat]

They never called it a life time license. Ever. I saw this post on Reddit, it explains it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/1Password/comments/y5vvwz/_/ismhbqy

OK, it's a "perpetual license".

Now what? How does it make *any* of that acceptable?

Heck, lifetime is shorter than perpetual, but whatever.

 

[E.Lizardo]

I love how people think they should be able to spent $10 and have lifetime usage of software with free upgrades...how do you think developers survive? On think kudos you give them? No, money. Without consistent money, software dies.

That's not how 1Password worked originally so not sure what you are referring to. They seemed to have no problem keeping the lights on pre-subscription.