Originally posted by evoluzione
the one button mouse is a big part of apple's history, it's kind of what apple is, easy to use and simplistic.
So was the happy-mac boot-up icon, but that's gone too.
Rainbow colored Apple menu?
*moof*?
Originally posted by evoluzione
the one button mouse is a big part of apple's history, it's kind of what apple is, easy to use and simplistic.
Originally posted by Frobozz
I have a hard time believing that people in this day and age don't understand a "contextual" click. Again, we're talking about people who have grown up with computers all, or most, of their life.
Originally posted by Frobozz
Jobs has made the cardinal mistake of insisting something stay the same against all public opinion. I can't think of a single person that thinks control-clicking something is more intuitive than clicking a right mouse button. Not these days. Maybe in the days of the classic Mac... but not now. Hell, put a sticker on the right mouse button that says "option" if you're that concerned.
Originally posted by Frobozz
The metaphore of contexual commands is, in my opinion, the most important. But from a mechanical and ergonomic standpoint, which some may argue is even more important, it is easier to have a second mouse button. The only way it helps to have a single mouse button is by dispersing the pressure required for a click to multiple fingers... thus less carpal tunnel and repetitive stress problems. Aside from that, I can't think of a single good reason to stick with the single button mouse.
Originally posted by fred
My point is squarely directed at Apple's lack of resposiveness to overwhelming customer demand.
Originally posted by MitjaP
Why are there not four mouse models?
- wireless two button
- wireless one button
- one button
- two button
I'd take the wireless one... I don't really care if it has one or two buttons as long I have my left arm and can press ctrl....
Originally posted by Flowbee
Can you post a link to the study or poll that shows 'overwhelming customer demand' for Apple to offer a 2-button mouse? I realize people are very passionate on these (and other) Mac sites, but let's face it, we're not the 'typical' Apple customer.
Originally posted by fred
No I can't, but as you mention you can guage the passion of many, many posters on online forums (here, MacCentral, Slashdot etc) of their strong desire to have a multiple button (perhaps even scrolling) Apple-branded mouse. I challenge you or anyone else to start an online petition and I'm certain the response will be overwhelming.
Originally posted by arn
This is a very biased sampling though.
I guarentee that 90+% of people in the world don't know the difference between RAM and Hard Drive storage.
Remember, we are living in a very skewed world here.
Imagine going to a grocery store and asking random people if they want Apple to ship a two button mouse, and I bet you get a lot of blank stares.
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Originally posted by fred
Software Companies regularly ask potential customers to submit their manifestations of interest for a mac version of software (i.e. Autocad) which they are contemplating to port to the Mac....why couldn't Apple set up a similar feedback e mail but for mice...
Which is why it is odd that computer ads, including Apple's print-magazine ads, are full of buzzwords that make sense to techies but not to most people reading the ads. We are worrying about 801.11g vs. 801.11b and how important Level 3 cache is, while people are buying computers because they like the color of the case or because they like the sound of the words "Airport Extreme".Originally posted by arn
I guarentee that 90+% of people in the world don't know the difference between RAM and Hard Drive storage.
Imagine going to a grocery store and asking random people if they want Apple to ship a two button mouse, and I bet you get a lot of blank stares.
Originally posted by Doctor Q
(2) Wouldn't everyone be happy if Apple let you delete the mouse from a custom order and order a third-party mouse instead? Novices would take the default and prosumers and anyone else who wanted a two-button/scrollwheel mouse could have it instead, without paying for the Apple mouse. Apple could still claim "simplicity" and everyone would have the mouse features they wanted. It sounds so simple, but they aren't doing it. What am I missing?
Originally posted by bentmywookie
I personally think this would be a great solution for now.
Originally posted by Nicky G
Logitech wheel mouse optical -- two buttons, plus clickable scroll wheel. Very nice mouse, I own several. $20 or so retail. Get over it already, people.
First and foremost, the Macintosh platform is still about simplicity-- simplicity and accessibility. Sure, things have gotten more complex over the years, largely out of necessity, but the drive to manage complexity, allow it only when necessary, and shield the user from it as much as possible is still a palpable vibe emanating from One Infinite Loop. And while you may find two mouse buttons to be a perfectly straightforward interface to navigate, we can assure you that a significant chunk of the population does not, Windows's 95% market share notwithstanding. Let us remind you that you also apparently find a net-based Mac-centric soap opera entertaining, which means you are not normal. (In so many ways.)
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It's almost certainly ideal when it comes to maintaining a consistent and accessible interface across third-party applications for the platform. Have you ever noticed the difference in the interfaces of the average Windows software and the average Mac software? We've found Mac software to be far more predictable, and we're convinced that part of that is due to the enforced simplicity of the single-button mouse. By requiring developers to design their interfaces for one button, Apple ensures that they don't just bury half of the software's crucial functions in poorly-organized middle- and right-click contextual menus.
Originally posted by fred
Choice is good...absence of choice is bad...what's so hard about that
Originally posted by DGFan
Not always true. Too many choices can be confusing. Even a couple choices can be daunting for people who aren't equipped to answer the question.
Remember the fiasco of the mid-90's for Apple? Want more HD space? It's a totally different model!!
Originally posted by Marble
After having just watched a poor professor struggle in front of his class with the Wintel box and its two-button mouse (he kept clicking the right button accidentally, and bringing up menus that confused him even more), I am fairly comfortable that Apple has a simple way of doing things, with more complex options open to everyone. Not all Mac users are as quick to learn and adapt as us youths, or as demanding as you professional computer users.
I have never needed two buttons for my work, though I have found them to be convenient, they are certainly not essential. If you want 120GBs of space, buy a 120GB hard drive. If you want a two-button mouse, buy a two-buttom mouse. For goodness sake, they're both just frivolty to the beginning user.