Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

20+ New iOS 16, iPadOS 16, and watchOS 9 Features and Improvements Rumored to Arrive at WWDC 2022

KurtMann said:
Sleep tracking is hard. I don't think any wristband style measurement measure up scientifically; definitely not five years ago.
Click to expand...
Then you haven’t tried other brands. I had a fitbit, in fact I have right here next to me from at least 3 to 5 years ago. This thing will automatically detect when I go to sleep. How does it do it? Well it isn’t hard dude, you just need to track movement, heart rate and noise.

It does it perfectly every time. It doesn’t matter if I take a nap in the middle of the day, the fitbit knows exactly when I’m sleeping and when I’m awake. It doesn’t even matter if I just open my eyes and not move at all, the fitbit knows it. So I don’t know what is Apple doing here but clearly this is a really subpar product and “sleep tracking” is not sleep tracking at all when you have to say to the watch you’re going to sleep.
 
  • Like
Reactions: sorgo †
Lounge vibes 05 said:
Would you be more specific?
How exactly has it become more difficult to set up an iPhone today?
Back up these claims of it becoming a “garbage house”, because as far as I can tell the set up process isn’t any less or any more easy than it’s ever been.
In fact now with iCloud photos, iCloud iMessage and iCloud Drive, i’d say it’s even easier.
Click to expand...
I’d argue it’s even simpler to set up the iPhone now.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lounge vibes 05
iPhoneFan5349 said:
I just can’t believe no one mentions this when they say the Apple Watch is the best wearable product when it’s so blatantly obvious it isn’t. This thing doesn’t even have apps, the screen serves almost no purpose whatsoever. Like seriously, any Fitbit for a quarter of the price is miles better than this thing.

I can’t believe the biggest company in the world has such a lackluster product that doesn’t even have basic functionality from 5 years ago. To be blunt, the product is garbage. It’s not the hardware just like it isn’t the hardware with the iPhone, it’s the software. The software team is so behind everyone else on Apple that it’s not even funny. I don’t know what is Craig doing there still, but it is very clear they just can’t deliver. What’s the benefit of having great hardware with horrible software? They should bring Scott Forstall back, he obviously had a clue of what he was doing.
Click to expand...

There are a lot of people out there that would disagree with you, including me.

Is it perfect? Of course not.

Does it do a good job in its core competencies (health tracking, short interactions and notifications)? You bet.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tagbert and Lounge vibes 05
Hkfan45 said:
Apple still refuses to do what needs to be done with iOS. A COMPLETE overhaul. It’s dated, unintuitive, limiting, and non productive for users who wants to get work done and not just take pretty pictures.
Click to expand...

Please elaborate on all the wonderful things you would have it do that it doesn’t. Please don’t tell us it should be running Xcode.

The whining and complaining in this thread is unbelievable.
 
  • Like
Reactions: NetMage, Crowbot and Tagbert
Lounge vibes 05 said:
Would you be more specific?
How exactly has it become more difficult to set up an iPhone today?
Back up these claims of it becoming a “garbage house”, because as far as I can tell the set up process isn’t any less or any more easy than it’s ever been.
In fact now with iCloud photos, iCloud iMessage and iCloud Drive, i’d say it’s even easier.
Click to expand...
Over the past few years, the iPhone's settings have appeared a hundred new buttons, many functions are simply duplicated for each application.
I have several times encountered the fact that when I turned on the button for example automatic download of books or something in the email settings and then saw that the button was turned off or vice versa.
Yes, in the first iOS version there were also bugs but the main functions just worked perfectly.
 
iPhoneFan5349 said:
Then you haven’t tried other brands. I had a fitbit, in fact I have right here next to me from at least 3 to 5 years ago. This thing will automatically detect when I go to sleep. How does it do it? Well it isn’t hard dude, you just need to track movement, heart rate and noise.

It does it perfectly every time. It doesn’t matter if I take a nap in the middle of the day, the fitbit knows exactly when I’m sleeping and when I’m awake. It doesn’t even matter if I just open my eyes and not move at all, the fitbit knows it. So I don’t know what is Apple doing here but clearly this is a really subpar product and “sleep tracking” is not sleep tracking at all when you have to say to the watch you’re going to sleep.
Click to expand...
Fitbit was a piece of garbage five years ago:
- two replacements of a Fitbit Charge before its warranty expired
- no notifications
- can't be used for payments

That was five years ago, so I'm calling BS on your statement.

Could sleep tracking on the Apple Watch be better? Definitely.
 
Last edited:
swingerofbirch said:
But I think continuing to sell the Series 3 watch now and not supporting it with this upgrade would be new?

I vaguely recall them doing an interim iPod touch update that was very basic, just to a faster processor, right before a WWDC just so that the currently sold model would be able to update to the newest announced version of the OS.
Click to expand...

Imagine purchasing an Apple Watch series 3 as your first ever smart watch / Apple device and then a week later learning your purchase is no longer supported with software updates?! You would use that 14 day return period in a flash…
 
Hkfan45 said:
Apple still refuses to do what needs to be done with iOS. A COMPLETE overhaul. It’s dated, unintuitive, limiting, and non productive for users who wants to get work done and not just take pretty pictures.
Click to expand...
I know plenty of people who get a lot of work done on iOS, so you’re already wrong there.
Also I have no idea where this notion that “rebuilds from scratch” = more stable.
The example that everyone uses is going from Mac OS 9 to OS X, But the reality was that that transition was not smooth in the slightest.
First of all, it took several false starts over a decade to even get off of the ground.
Then it went through years of developer testing, starting with certain elements in 1998.
Then a public beta launched in September 2000, and it was still a mess.
Then The initial official public launch, 10.0 cheetah in March 2001, was also not ready for public consumption according to all of the reviews at the time.
It was slow, it was glitchy, it was incompatible with several features, and it was missing a lot.
It was so bad that six months later in September 2001, Apple had to put out a free update to 10.1 Puma for all the people who purchased Chita, and it wasn’t much better. According to reviews at the time it was still slow, it was still glitchy, there were several incompatibilities still, and it was still not ready for full public usage.
10.2 Jaguar was the first one that most journalists and reviewers of the time actually recommended people install, released in August 2002.
But 10.3 Panther from October 2003 was the first one that was extremely solid.
Apple didn’t remove classic OS 9 emulation until leopard in October 2007.
It was not an easy transition, it wasn’t like Apple completely reformatted the operating system and boom, it was perfect again and modern and ready to go.
It took 3 and 1/2 years from the roadmap announcement to initial public launch.
It took an additional 2 and 1/2 years before they released a version that the majority of people could safely update too and fully safely replace OS 9 completely with.
It took an additional four years after that for them to remove backwards compatibility with OS 9.
So seeing how difficult that was on users, but especially developers, you really think iOS should go through the same thing?
Because personally, I don’t. I think the current iOS is fine and people just like to complain.
Again “rebuilding” does not equal bug free or perfect, in fact sometimes it’s the exact opposite
 
  • Like
Reactions: NetMage and Tagbert
Again “rebuilding” does not equal bug free or perfect, in fact sometimes it’s the exact opposite
Click to expand...

That's the understanding of the particular user. Unfortunately, he's not alone in his (mis)understanding.

As you aptly put it: rebuild doesn't mean bug free.
 
  • Like
Reactions: NetMage and Tagbert
polyphenol said:
I think the phone treats that like me touching the Cancel or Pause buttons.

Since adopting the approach of switching to another app or home screen, it doesn't seem to happen - which looks like confirmation.
Click to expand...
Other iphones don’t do that. You can press the power button to dim the screen and the timer works fine. Not sure what your case is doing to the timer buttons. What else is it interfering with?
 
Unami said:
They better work on multitasking in ipadOS, it's still a hot mess.
Click to expand...
In what way? It was greatly improved last year buy adding the control icons instead of depending on just gestures. What else is wrong or missing that justifies you calling it a hot mess?
 
  • Like
Reactions: NetMage
iPhoneFan5349 said:
I just can’t believe no one mentions this when they say the Apple Watch is the best wearable product when it’s so blatantly obvious it isn’t. This thing doesn’t even have apps, the screen serves almost no purpose whatsoever. Like seriously, any Fitbit for a quarter of the price is miles better than this thing.

I can’t believe the biggest company in the world has such a lackluster product that doesn’t even have basic functionality from 5 years ago. To be blunt, the product is garbage. It’s not the hardware just like it isn’t the hardware with the iPhone, it’s the software. The software team is so behind everyone else on Apple that it’s not even funny. I don’t know what is Craig doing there still, but it is very clear they just can’t deliver. What’s the benefit of having great hardware with horrible software? They should bring Scott Forstall back, he obviously had a clue of what he was doing.
Click to expand...
I do sleep tracking every night with my Apple Watch. I’m currently using Autosleep to display the stats because I like their graphs better. I don’t have to tell it when I’m going to sleep. AFAIK it uses the same tracking data as collected by the built in sleep tracking.
 
sounds good but we need apple to officially allow 3rd party watch faces already i’m getting sick of their faces and their new faces are just meh political
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tagbert
gwhizkids said:
Please elaborate on all the wonderful things you would have it do that it doesn’t. Please don’t tell us it should be running Xcode.

The whining and complaining in this thread is unbelievable.
Click to expand...
Allow full and unrestricted automation similar to tasker and macrodroid. For god sakes, I can’t even automate when and how my vpn is activated in Shortcuts. And that’s just one example. It’s useless.

Also, notifications are such an unusable mess compared with android 12.
 
  • Angry
Reactions: NetMage
Tagbert said:
In what way? It was greatly improved last year buy adding the control icons instead of depending on just gestures. What else is wrong or missing that justifies you calling it a hot mess?
Click to expand...
This is a joke, right? Have you tried 12L? That’s how multitasking should operate.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back