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2005 Baseball Season

I was in a bar trying to catch replays of that play with no sound, from what I saw a fan tried to swing at Sheif and lots of beer was spilled.
 
ESPN replayed the heck out of it just after it happened and on Baseball tonight just after the game. The fan was swinging down, as if to grab the ball as it bounced around the RF corner wall. It looked like he grazed Sheffield's hat, but I can't be sure from the camera angle. Sheffield says he was hit in the mouth. Who's to say. Either way, it wasn't a "punch" persay, and didn't make significant contact. This, however, doesn't excuse the fan, who should be banned from Fenway for the rest of the season. I HATE it when fans interfere with balls in play, leaning over the wall, etc. I HATE it, no matter which teams are playing, or which teams the interference benefits. Spectators need to SPECTATE, that is all.

What will be interesting to follow is MLB's reaction to Sheffield. He clearly hit the fan, something that you're simply not allowed to do. I don't necessarily fault him for his reaction, but I'll listen very closely to see if all the mediots who said Artest shouldn't have gone into the stands maintain the same line with Sheffield. By those standards, he should be suspended. I'm not saying it's right, but what's the determinate? I'm of the understanding that it's NEVER okay to cross the line.
 
If you watch the replay a couple more times- you'll see something much funnier- The guy two seats to the left of the 'swinger' dumping his beer all over Sheffield. You can see him pondering it, and then he flicks his wrist and dumps it all over Sheffield's back- priceless. Clearly not an accident. The trying to hit a player or throwing things are bad things- make no mistake, but the beer dumps are part of the game and are truly priceless.

Johnson got rocked by the way. That's the best you got?
 
Here's a pic.
 

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Yep, and there's Sheffield "not throwing a punch," like he's claiming in the papers now. Everyone involved in this is an idiot.


That's two straight starts where The Big Eunuch gets roughed up. And the Sox continued to dominate Gordon.
 
Every time a Yankees-Red Sox game is on, I'm reminded that it's a fine rivalry because the games often involve so much drama.

And every time a Yankees-Red Sox game is on, I'm reminded that the two teams have the most immature fans in the country. It's like watching kindergartners argue.
 
Oh come on now... don't tell me it doesn't make it all that much more exciting. There's nothing immature about it- funny, yes. Stupid, yeah.

The Yankees getting into it with the Red Sox bullpen attendant was pretty stupid- but it made it all that much more exciting, didn't it?
 
aloofman said:
Every time a Yankees-Red Sox game is on, I'm reminded that it's a fine rivalry because the games often involve so much drama.

And every time a Yankees-Red Sox game is on, I'm reminded that the two teams have the most immature fans in the country. It's like watching kindergartners argue.
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I think Oakland's got to be in that discussion. It's a shame that a few d-bags have to ruin things for the thousands of fans who do nothing wrong.
 
decksnap said:
Oh come on now... don't tell me it doesn't make it all that much more exciting. There's nothing immature about it- funny, yes. Stupid, yeah.

The Yankees getting into it with the Red Sox bullpen attendant was pretty stupid- but it made it all that much more exciting, didn't it?
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On the contrary, it interrupted an exciting play and inning with a long delay of scuffling and yelling. Right after it happened, I switched to another channel for about ten minutes because I knew they wouldn't get their s**t together anytime soon. If I wanted to see fans misbehaving, I'd watch a European soccer game.
 
aloofman said:
On the contrary, it interrupted an exciting play and inning with a long delay of scuffling and yelling. Right after it happened, I switched to another channel for about ten minutes because I knew they wouldn't get their s**t together anytime soon. If I wanted to see fans misbehaving, I'd watch a European soccer game.
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And, though it may seem a dismissal of this whole fiasco, at least we aren't throwing flares.
 
Arn't they supposed to stop serving beer in the 7th inning, those cups looked pretty full. :rolleyes:
 
Ok so now I'm a little stressed, The Mets who started 0-5 have won the last 6 games and are on a role. The Yankees. have dropped 3 straight and the relief pitching (Gordon) is horrible.

Then there's this....
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2038623

NEW YORK -- The New York Yankees are close to reaching an agreement with city and state governments to build a new stadium, the Daily News reported Saturday.

Citing unnamed sources, the newspaper reported that lawyers from the city, state and team are completing a "memorandum of understanding" and that an announcement is expected around May 1.

While government and team officials did not comment directly about plans or the pending agreement, the newspaper said they did confirm that they are in the final stages.

"We're working very closely with the city and the state and trying to finalize our current plan," Yankees president Randy Levine told the Daily News. "We expect to announce it in the near future, and we hope to break ground in 2006 and be ready to play in 2009."

Very upset over that. :(
 
MacNut said:
Ok so now I'm a little stressed, The Mets who started 0-5 have won the last 6 games and are on a role. The Yankees. have dropped 3 straight and the relief pitching (Gordon) is horrible.
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I am not stressed!!! I am so damn happy!!!

I was at todays game - for guessing the Mets would win I got an iPod shuffle from my dad... (also I needed it for school...)

I was told by my friends I was on TV two times... one because of a foul ball and one because they were showing fans w/ cool t-shirts and I had one from the 2000 world series that had mets and yankees on it...
 
MacNut said:
Arn't they supposed to stop serving beer in the 7th inning, those cups looked pretty full. :rolleyes:
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For Yankee Red Sox games, they don't because they want drunk fights to boost TV ratings! :rolleyes:
 
MacNut said:
Ok so now I'm a little stressed, The Mets who started 0-5 have won the last 6 games and are on a role. The Yankees. have dropped 3 straight and the relief pitching (Gordon) is horrible.

Then there's this....
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2038623

NEW YORK -- The New York Yankees are close to reaching an agreement with city and state governments to build a new stadium, the Daily News reported Saturday.

Citing unnamed sources, the newspaper reported that lawyers from the city, state and team are completing a "memorandum of understanding" and that an announcement is expected around May 1.

While government and team officials did not comment directly about plans or the pending agreement, the newspaper said they did confirm that they are in the final stages.

"We're working very closely with the city and the state and trying to finalize our current plan," Yankees president Randy Levine told the Daily News. "We expect to announce it in the near future, and we hope to break ground in 2006 and be ready to play in 2009."

Very upset over that. :(
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I'm not quite sure about the ins and outs of the luxury tax/revenue sharing system that MLB currently employs, but might this actually help the Yankees? They're going to completely fund the construction (estim. $800 mil), so they'd be able to cite stadium costs and take less of a tax hit.

Where are they going to build this? On the lower west side next to the proposed new stadium for the Jets?
 
O's sweep in the series =D

And Nat's aren't doing too bad either. With a team finally in the DC area, I may be getting into baseball (heck, and go to a game too). Not that the series with the Yankees isn't entertaining, its just not the same cheering a team in B'more when you live closer to DC.

People from Moco would know what i mean here.
 
dotdotdot said:
For Yankee Red Sox games, they don't because they want drunk fights to boost TV ratings! :rolleyes:
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Nah, they actually have threatened not to sell beer at these games at certain times. I'm not exactly sure why the guy had his hand out there, he wasn't looking at sheff, so the chances of him actually trying to hit him are low. The guy who "threw" the beer was falling down.

On a baseball note, the yank's got swept and we swept the D rays (nothing impressive there!). But, the yank's games were much more interesting. They fell apart twice in relief. I think we're going to see some more relievers get bought soon. This seems to hold true since last year.

Anyways, the standings as they are now won't last long. Does anybody really thing Toronto is going to be in first for very long? So far they've had a semi difficult schedule (inter league play for opening day??) but nothing too hard. We (boston) were in a slump when we played them, CIN is one above 500, texas one below, oakland exactly even. TB (who we swept) is in last place. Heck, they're one of the only teams I don't expect to move around much this season :p.

Not to be too critical, I see TB getting much better in a year or two. They have some excellent young players that I'd like to see when they mature a little.

BEN
 
A message from the boss George Steinbrenner,
"Enough is enough. I am bitterly disappointed as I'm sure all Yankee fans are by the lack of performance by our team, It is unbelievable to me that the highest-paid team in baseball would start the season in such a deep funk. They are not playing like true Yankees. They have the talent to win and they are not winning. I expect Joe Torre, his complete coaching staff and the team to turn this around."
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MacNut said:
A message from the boss George Steinbrenner,
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It's the "true Yankee" part of that which rings the loudest. Last year, you had Jeter telling reporters not to compare the 2004 team to the teams that won in the 90s.

Whenever the Big Stein calls out his team like this (and he did the same thing last spring), he always sounds like a pompous a$$. Not playing like "true Yankees?" What exactly does that mean? Shaving your facial hair and taking the field with an elegant gait?

Prediction: If the Yankees keep Womack in the leadoff spot, they miss the playoffs.


I'm thrilled to see the Nats doing well, just as I always enjoyed them as the Expos, especially when both they and the Twins had good seasons immediately after Selig marked them for Death. But what the hell kind of TV deal did Peter Angelos swing? I live north of Baltimore in Pennsylvania, but TBS had the game blacked out when the Braves played Washington. Once the novelty wears off, the Nats are going to need some TV revenue outside of Alexandria, VA.
 
I was at the Saturday O's yankees game and let me say it was the best game i have been too ever. i was really surpised the O's were able to comeback. If all goes well I really hope the O's make it to the playoffs. Whether its wild card or division leader i dont care, i just want post season baseball back in baltimore.

And my prediction for the yankees, the yankees will not finish in last place. They will get better, but they will continue to loose if their opponents make them turn to their bullpen. The yankkees breakdown like this

Starting Pitching: B+
Offense: A-
Bullpen: C-

If a team can shake up the yankkees starter and make them go to the bullpen early, the yankees will have a tough time winning.

As for the Orioles our game plan is quite different. We are willing to give up some runs and just out score our oppents. breaks down like this

Starting Pitching C+
Offense A++
Bullpen A-

Its a good time to be a baseball fan in the baltimore area!
 
The only problem with the bullpen is the same problem they had last year, Tom Gordon, He chokes in the big spot.
 
ijimk said:
them turn to their bullpen. The yankkees breakdown like this

Starting Pitching: B+
Offense: A-
Bullpen: C-

If a team can shake up the yankkees starter and make them go to the bullpen early, the yankees will have a tough time winning.

As for the Orioles our game plan is quite different. We are willing to give up some runs and just out score our oppents. breaks down like this

Starting Pitching C+
Offense A++
Bullpen A-

Its a good time to be a baseball fan in the baltimore area!
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As much as I HATE the Yankees, this doesn't seem like a fair assessment. The Yankees and the Red Sox still have the two best offenses in the league. Glad to see the Orioles beating up on the Yanks, but come on.
 
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