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2005 Baseball Season
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Well, with the yanks, orioles, sox (pre-emptive, but they just hit a grandslam making it 10-3) all winning today, that's stopping the 2 games "slide". Finally NY is atleast tied for last place!
But, hear this, not a short term prediction. The Yankee's are a much better team than last place. Boston is playing much worse than they should be (besides the back to back homers that they hit while I'm posting
). The Orioles are playing better than any of the past couple years. I like seeing the yanks lose, but it's not going to last forever.
Boston's got a 3 game series against the o's coming up (home stand). The yanks have got a 3 game series against LAA (pretty good season). I think we're going to see some more shifting of positions coming up (I predict boston taking 2/3 from the o's, yanks losing 2/3 to the angle's).
BEN
But, hear this, not a short term prediction. The Yankee's are a much better team than last place. Boston is playing much worse than they should be (besides the back to back homers that they hit while I'm posting
). The Orioles are playing better than any of the past couple years. I like seeing the yanks lose, but it's not going to last forever. Boston's got a 3 game series against the o's coming up (home stand). The yanks have got a 3 game series against LAA (pretty good season). I think we're going to see some more shifting of positions coming up (I predict boston taking 2/3 from the o's, yanks losing 2/3 to the angle's).
BEN
Any word on Wright's shoulder? I think he was supposed to have an MRI today.
Schilling is still in Spring Training. Unfortunately, these games count. He's a month behind where he should be due to the offseason ankle surgery. If he's still spitting the bit in May/June, I'll start worrying.
The Yankees are actively decomposing right now, on nearly every front. This may be the year that the wheels come off. I know it's early, but none of their pitchers have been effective in consecutive starts, they already have two guys on the DL, Big Stein is issuing threatening emails, and Tony Womack and his .304 OBP are batting leadoff. They still have the big four in their lineup, but this will be the most difficult season in recent memory for the Yanks with regards to making the playoffs.
That said, the Sox are having some serious issues with the back end of the pen. Walk-off HR twice so far this season; it only happened 4 times total in 2004. Maybe today's brawl with wake everyone up.
Baltimore hits the cover off the ball (and did last year, too) but I don't think their starting pitching will be able to hold up for the entire season. They'll certainly make it interesting.
Schilling is still in Spring Training. Unfortunately, these games count. He's a month behind where he should be due to the offseason ankle surgery. If he's still spitting the bit in May/June, I'll start worrying.
The Yankees are actively decomposing right now, on nearly every front. This may be the year that the wheels come off. I know it's early, but none of their pitchers have been effective in consecutive starts, they already have two guys on the DL, Big Stein is issuing threatening emails, and Tony Womack and his .304 OBP are batting leadoff. They still have the big four in their lineup, but this will be the most difficult season in recent memory for the Yanks with regards to making the playoffs.
That said, the Sox are having some serious issues with the back end of the pen. Walk-off HR twice so far this season; it only happened 4 times total in 2004. Maybe today's brawl with wake everyone up.
Baltimore hits the cover off the ball (and did last year, too) but I don't think their starting pitching will be able to hold up for the entire season. They'll certainly make it interesting.
No word on Wright's shoulder yet, But Randy Johnson pitched a gem of a game, looked like close to classic Unit.
Im shocked in the Red Sox behavior, I expect that from Pedro but you guys have to get over him, he's a Met now.
Jaret Wright Update.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2045145
NEW YORK -- Jaret Wright was placed on the 15-day disabled list Sunday with yet another shoulder injury, and the New York Yankees right-hander will miss at least four to six weeks.
Wright walked off the mound with one out in the sixth inning of a 10-2 loss to the Texas Rangers on Saturday because of pain in his right shoulder. This is the eighth time he has been on the disabled list in a nine-year career and the sixth time because of a problem with the shoulder -- including season-ending surgery in 2000 and 2001.
Tests on Sunday showed torn scar tissue in Wright's shoulder, and he was relieved by that.
"There wasn't a whole lot of sleep with everything going through your mind what it could be," Wright said. "I think tearing scar tissue is better than anything else."
Wright will have a cortisone shot in four or five days, once the swelling goes down, and then will go to the Yankees' complex in Tampa, Fla., for a rehabilitation assignment.
"He will be treated very conservatively," general manager Brian Cashman said. "Four to six weeks is the earliest timetable for him to get back."
Cashman said Chien-Ming Wang will be called up from Triple-A Columbus this week to take Wright's spot in the rotation -- Saturday against Toronto.
Im shocked in the Red Sox behavior, I expect that from Pedro
but you guys have to get over him, he's a Met now. Jaret Wright Update.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2045145
NEW YORK -- Jaret Wright was placed on the 15-day disabled list Sunday with yet another shoulder injury, and the New York Yankees right-hander will miss at least four to six weeks.
Wright walked off the mound with one out in the sixth inning of a 10-2 loss to the Texas Rangers on Saturday because of pain in his right shoulder. This is the eighth time he has been on the disabled list in a nine-year career and the sixth time because of a problem with the shoulder -- including season-ending surgery in 2000 and 2001.
Tests on Sunday showed torn scar tissue in Wright's shoulder, and he was relieved by that.
"There wasn't a whole lot of sleep with everything going through your mind what it could be," Wright said. "I think tearing scar tissue is better than anything else."
Wright will have a cortisone shot in four or five days, once the swelling goes down, and then will go to the Yankees' complex in Tampa, Fla., for a rehabilitation assignment.
"He will be treated very conservatively," general manager Brian Cashman said. "Four to six weeks is the earliest timetable for him to get back."
Cashman said Chien-Ming Wang will be called up from Triple-A Columbus this week to take Wright's spot in the rotation -- Saturday against Toronto.
Interesting. Everyone has been touting this Wang kid lately, so we'll see what he's made of. Although, being the best minor leaguer for the Yankees doesn't mean that much. At this point, their farm system is more barren than a 50 year-old pornstar.
IIRC, Arroyo's "retaliatory" pitch hit the guy in the a$$. If you're going to plunk a guy, that's the most gentlemanly way to do it. Carter throwing at Ortiz's head was what escalated the whole thing. Of course, I'm sure Sheffield would have showed restraint and simply taken his base, and perhaps sent Carter flowers after the game to show that there were no hard feelings. It's the Yankees and he's a professional. It's those kinds of intagibles that win championships.
IIRC, Arroyo's "retaliatory" pitch hit the guy in the a$$. If you're going to plunk a guy, that's the most gentlemanly way to do it. Carter throwing at Ortiz's head was what escalated the whole thing. Of course, I'm sure Sheffield would have showed restraint and simply taken his base, and perhaps sent Carter flowers after the game to show that there were no hard feelings. It's the Yankees and he's a professional. It's those kinds of intagibles that win championships.
Well, as long as Jorge Julio and BJ Ryan keep pitching like they are in the back end of the O's pen, color me concerned. Their starting pitching can crap the bed all they want, but their bats will carry them to victory in the last three innings. Vaguely reminiscient of the 2004 Yankees.
The bright side to Wells going down is that it puts off the "Who goes to the pen when Wade Miller comes back?" decision for about a month. He may make his first start on Tuesday.
The emergence of the Os brings up a salient point: the WC may not come out of the AL East this year. If there are three teams beating up on each other over here instead of two, it gives the second-place finishers in the West and Central a much better shot. This happened to the Oak-Ana-Tex group last August. They had like three weeks in a row when they each played .500 against each other, and then the Sox came through and went something like 8-2 and effectively clinched the wild-card.
The bright side to Wells going down is that it puts off the "Who goes to the pen when Wade Miller comes back?" decision for about a month. He may make his first start on Tuesday.
The emergence of the Os brings up a salient point: the WC may not come out of the AL East this year. If there are three teams beating up on each other over here instead of two, it gives the second-place finishers in the West and Central a much better shot. This happened to the Oak-Ana-Tex group last August. They had like three weeks in a row when they each played .500 against each other, and then the Sox came through and went something like 8-2 and effectively clinched the wild-card.
Sox said:
If your a MLB batter, and someone throws at your head, go out and pound the guy. Esp if you know it was on purpose. Manny came back and crushed that next pitch after being thrown at, but thats not gonna stop him form throwing at you. A 250+ lbs David Ortiz charging you like a mad bull is going to be tough to shake next time your thinking of throwing at someone. Seriously.
aloofman said:
Thanks aloofman, I really agree here. Teams go on 500 streaks, it's not the end of the world. Sure, I'm a little pissed at Folke blowing all these saves (don't get my started on Embree), but I'm still buying tickets for may. Let's talk in late August and September about a pennant race.
For now.....Wells out for a month, Schilling (who never really got out of spring training) for 15 days. Heck, this might be a great thing for Schilling to go back to training and get back his A game.
3 days ago there was an article on Boston.com about how we have a surplus of pitchers! (got one coming up from the AAA team) They were talking about who to cut from the rotation. Schilling will be back soon, we're filling Wells spot, this isn't the end of the world. I just wish that our relief pitching could win some 1 run games (2-6 now I think).
It happens. That's life. Remember our star shortstop that had these issues last year?
BEN
MacNut said:Im sure the Red Sox would like to have Pedro back right about now. He's on a role in NY.
No, but maybe D. Lowe. Pedro was a great pitcher, but we don't need an emotional baby on our hands...again.
BEN
Wells is turning out to be a bust for the Sox and thats why the Yankees didn't want him. Schilling isn't close to being ready yet and may have done more harm to his ankle, Maybe the Sox should of kept Pedro or Lowe as insurance and spent the money just to have one more good year.
The Yankees may be better off with Wright on the DL, he cant be any worse if he's not pitching. The problem is Mussena, He is not stepping it up yet, Arod is finally looking to be finally becoming classic arod again.
The Yankees may be better off with Wright on the DL, he cant be any worse if he's not pitching. The problem is Mussena, He is not stepping it up yet, Arod is finally looking to be finally becoming classic arod again.
MacNut said:
No timetable yet, but he's optimistic about his rehab. I'm not so pessimistic about the Giants if Bonds is not back real soon; the have a good enough lineup to contend in a weak division. Without a legit closer, however, it is unlikely they can hang in the race. If you see Matt Herges closing again, you know they are desperate. We will see if some one will step up within the organization because a trade now is very unlikely.
MacNut said:
And therein lies the seminal difference between the Yankees and everybody else. "Spending the money just to have one more good" year leaves you with a lineup of aging former All-Stars, a bench thinner than Calista Flockhart, and a farm system berefts of any discernable talent. Keep Pedro and Lowe? Maybe the Yanks should have kept Lieber and Halsey.
But the argument is distinctly flawed. In both cases, we're comparing pitchers who switched leagues. Going to the NL, of course Pedro, Lowe, Lieber, and even Halsey are going to have better years. The lack of a DH accounts for a lot. NL batters have never seen these guys before (at least not very much and for many years - interleague play, former teams, etc), and it will take a half-season or so to adjust.
Is Classic Arod the guy who hits the cover off the ball in the regular season, or the guy who plays with both hands placed firmly around his throat in the postseason?
"An Arod Experience? How about getting some balls through the infield in the postseason. That's an Arod Experience I'd like." - Barry Halpren, Yankee minority owner
Injuries happen. It was a miracle that no Boston pitcher missed a start in 2004 - a miracle. Better that this happens now than in September. If the Red Sox can win a World Series while having Kevin Millar play RF for 40% of the season, they can certainly weather this storm.
Sayhey - so, does Pedro Gomez live in a tent on Barry's front lawn?