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2005 Baseball Season
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MacNut said:
Once again, Big Stein shows that he's second only to Tommy Lasorda in dishing out bull****.
Give me a break. Were Mattingly and Winfield not "true Yankees"? Maybe if they had a few more homegrown players left, they'd play like "true Yankees." (The only ones, by my count, are Rivera, Williams, Jeter, and Posada. Please correct me if I'm wrong.) Hiring mercenaries at premium prices can only take you so far and they've been experiencing diminishing returns. At some point, even such a large collection of talent will underachieve in a big way.
That said, it's a little early for ominous declarations. (I'm not doing cartwheels for my Dodgers yet either.) I'm sure it's just a public motivation on his part, but the idea of Steinbrenner firing Joe Torre is laughable. Regardless of whether he's to blame, there's no obvious replacement anywhere that the players would respect in the same way. I'm not saying he won't ever fire Torre, but it would be stupid to do so.
MacNut said:
I think the verb you're looking for, in regards to Gordon, is "vomited."
I agree with aloofman, it's still April and there's plenty of baseball left to play. No one is as good, or as bad, as they look in the first few weeks, with the possible exception of the Royals and DRays.
That said, if Gordon keeps spitting the bit, the Yanks will be in serious trouble. They need that bridge to Rivera, and Torre has a bad habit of distrusting his young arms. If I were a Yankees fan, Tanyan Sturtze coming into a tie game in the eighth would give me the willies.
And on that note, it's time for a Pawtucket Patriot.
MacNut said:19-8 Yankees win
I would like to congratulate the Yankees on a blow out win against.....the Devil Rays!!!! We all know how good of a team they are. The Yankee's are no longer tied for last place!!!
Here's some interesting information that actually might make you cringe as a Yankee's fan. The highest paid player on the Devil Rays, Charles Johnson making 9 million is out paid by 10 members of the yankees (tied with #11 Carl Pavano). We all know the Yankee's scored 19 runs. Let's look at the eight....8!!!! runs that the devil rays scored. This is no 10-0 blow out that Boston had last week. How can you let a team with some of their best players making less than the lowest paid member of the yankees (we're talking a bench player here) score this many runs? The yankee's still have not improved their starting rotation. Randy Johnson is a god of pitchers, but obviously he's not helping a 5-8 team.
Next, of course the big Stein made this statement after playing a decent team. He knew there was no way in hell the Devil Rays would beat them. A true last place team (and I am not bashing the DR's) with a 0-10 away record to the Yankees. This is a money in the bank bet. The worst Yankee's team can beat them any day of the week.
The fact of the matter is, last year's World Series champions...the Boston Red Sox had a very similar game to this one. Basically, the Yankee's can't hold any team to less than 5 runs. Sure, a great offense is just that, but we've learned year over year that offense just can't do it.
Here this Yankee's. You have turned NOTHING around. nothing.
When they beat a team not in last place we're going to have a story.
BEN
PS. Congrads to Mrs. Schilling for finishing the Boston Marathon!!!!!!
MacNut said:Arn't you supposed to root for the Mariners in WA
Hehe, I moved out here from Boston temporarily for work. My heart is still in Boston.
Anyways, I was right, the yanks are back in last place! 6-2 loss with their ace on the mound. Too bad the sox lost in a heartbreaker.
BEN
too bad the yankees couldn't move some ofthe runs from yesterday to today .... in other news ... prior looked damn good today. I don't want to speak too soon but man 13 innings 0 ER ... so his stat line reads as so ...
Mark Prior 2-0 0.00
This was without Burnitz in the lineup with Hairston (who I"m glad to have ironically filling the spot SOSA used to hold) .... the team is looking up, now a critical series with the cardinals maybe they can reverse how things went last year ... 8-11 against the cards.
Mark Prior 2-0 0.00
This was without Burnitz in the lineup with Hairston (who I"m glad to have ironically filling the spot SOSA used to hold) .... the team is looking up, now a critical series with the cardinals maybe they can reverse how things went last year ... 8-11 against the cards.
decksnap said:
That sucker bounced onto the Mass Pike on one hop. Remy was in the booth saying it was longer than the shot Rice hit back in the 80s. Nice to see The Man in a groove; hopefully he can keep it going at Camden Yards the next few days. I would like to see Foulke iron out his mechanics, however.
I saw some highlights of Prior, and he looked pretty filthy. If he is indeed fully recovered from the leg, I think he'll be okay. The Cubs need to get Wood going. If he's not spitting the bit, they can outpitch the Cards and just about anyone else. I'm not sold on Mulder.
decksnap said:
Manny's still on fire, today's game was quite impressive. We're no longer shutting out the D rays, this time it's the first place Orioles (with a great lineup).
BEN
NEW YORK -- Yankees outfielder Gary Sheffield won't be punished for his role in a scuffle with fans at Fenway Park last week.
Sheffield was praised by the discipline committee for showing restraint during the encounter with fans.
Bob Watson, baseball's vice president in charge of discipline, made the decision Wednesday, a day after meeting with Sheffield and the right fielder's agent at Yankee Stadium.
"It just proves that I was right," Sheffield said before Wednesday night's game at Toronto. "I'm just glad I was an example of how to handle a situation without making it worse or hurting the Yankees or any organization for that matter, or any sport.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2042089
Sheffield was praised by the discipline committee for showing restraint during the encounter with fans.
Bob Watson, baseball's vice president in charge of discipline, made the decision Wednesday, a day after meeting with Sheffield and the right fielder's agent at Yankee Stadium.
"It just proves that I was right," Sheffield said before Wednesday night's game at Toronto. "I'm just glad I was an example of how to handle a situation without making it worse or hurting the Yankees or any organization for that matter, or any sport.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2042089
It would appear that ever since Sheffield stopped applying that $50K-a-bottle flaxseed oil, he's been a model citizen and showing restraint. Bravo, Sheff, bravo.
Bruce Chen, meet Jason Varitek. KAPOW.
I caught the last few innings of Cubs-Cards last night after the Sox game, and I'm officially a fan of Carlos Zambrano. 8.2IP, 1 ER, 4H and an RBI triple. He storms around the mound like he's looking for something to break and then fires BBs at the plate, one after another, with like 30 seconds in between pitches. He throws smoke and breathes fire. To bad they wouldn't let him get the CG.
Bruce Chen, meet Jason Varitek. KAPOW.
I caught the last few innings of Cubs-Cards last night after the Sox game, and I'm officially a fan of Carlos Zambrano. 8.2IP, 1 ER, 4H and an RBI triple. He storms around the mound like he's looking for something to break and then fires BBs at the plate, one after another, with like 30 seconds in between pitches. He throws smoke and breathes fire. To bad they wouldn't let him get the CG.
So who saw that injury coming to Nomar? It's really disappointing how such a great player (and nobody can say he wasn't) can have such a major train wreck of a career. Same goes for the cubs (but the player they brought up looks decent).
That homer in question made it about 15 feet from the pike according to NESN.
BEN
That homer in question made it about 15 feet from the pike according to NESN.
BEN
Sox said:
yeah he's grown up in certain ways but the fire inside is still there and I think he may be the 1-2 punch of prior - zambrano ... which could be sick. Even today Dempster gave up 1 run over 6 ... with 4 hits that should be good enough for a while.
as for nomar ... he's quickly turning into a Ken Griffey or a Grant Hill, I'm glad the cubs only signed him for a year ... Neifi is alright but he's not an everyday guy.
I feel terrible for Nomar. This is a guy once lauded by Ted Williams, for both his exceptional hitting and overall approach to the game. The Splinter's opinion should be good enough for anyone.
He was also the face of the Boston Red Sox for the late 90s. I grew up as a baseball fan alongside Nomar's ascension into the baseball elite, and he was my favorite player. I remember spending summer nights watching him tear through the Cape league, spraying frozen ropes into the outfield sunset in Eldridge Park. I was overjoyed when he broke in with the Sox, where he patrolled the infield with the reckless abandon and joy of an eight-year-old kid fielding fungoes with his old man.
There's a special place in hell for Al Reyes, who shattered Nomar's wrist and effectively marked the end of his era in Boston. When he finally returned, all those first pitch frozen ropes became pop-ups, the laser throws to first lost thier zip and accuracy. He was never the same player.
I was sad when he was traded away last summer, but I knew that it was something that had to happen. Nomar's relationship with the FO had soured even further after the near-trade for A-Rod, and he wanted a "Jeter money" extension that no SS in baseball would be worth. But it should never have had to come to that, the perfect storm of a declining market, injuries, and vitriol. He should have been on the field last October, healthy and happy, piling on top of Foulke and getting doused in Veuve Cliquot. He should have been adding to a First-Ballot HOF career this year in Boston, putting holes in the Monstah and gobbling up grounders with the reckless abandon of an eight-year-old kid fielding fungoes with his old man.
He was also the face of the Boston Red Sox for the late 90s. I grew up as a baseball fan alongside Nomar's ascension into the baseball elite, and he was my favorite player. I remember spending summer nights watching him tear through the Cape league, spraying frozen ropes into the outfield sunset in Eldridge Park. I was overjoyed when he broke in with the Sox, where he patrolled the infield with the reckless abandon and joy of an eight-year-old kid fielding fungoes with his old man.
There's a special place in hell for Al Reyes, who shattered Nomar's wrist and effectively marked the end of his era in Boston. When he finally returned, all those first pitch frozen ropes became pop-ups, the laser throws to first lost thier zip and accuracy. He was never the same player.
I was sad when he was traded away last summer, but I knew that it was something that had to happen. Nomar's relationship with the FO had soured even further after the near-trade for A-Rod, and he wanted a "Jeter money" extension that no SS in baseball would be worth. But it should never have had to come to that, the perfect storm of a declining market, injuries, and vitriol. He should have been on the field last October, healthy and happy, piling on top of Foulke and getting doused in Veuve Cliquot. He should have been adding to a First-Ballot HOF career this year in Boston, putting holes in the Monstah and gobbling up grounders with the reckless abandon of an eight-year-old kid fielding fungoes with his old man.