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2007 Formula One Thread

The scary thing is Alonso has been just as consistent as Hamilton.
If Alonso and Hamilton finished with equal points today, they'd countback to number of 5th places won. As they have the same 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4ths.
 
Lord Blackadder said:
Alonso made an ass of himself this year with his antics, and only has himself to blame. McLaren cheated and ultimately paid the price.
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Fred's behaviour this season made Schumacher look like a Pontiff in comparison. I've never seen anything like it. :eek: :rolleyes: :p

As for McLaren... :rolleyes:
 
Lord Blackadder said:
Alonso made an ass of himself this year with his antics, and only has himself to blame. McLaren cheated and ultimately paid the price.
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Agree about Alonso and his antics, but it was Alonso who cheated by knowing the Ferrari setup and changing his car.

Lord Blackadder said:
At least this race was on the level, and Kimi won it fair and square on the track. I don't really want to see another Ferrari dynasty, but you have to admit that the current McLaren cars are tainted goods...Ferrari may have bent the rules as well but McLaren's transgressions were so massive they basically forced the FIA to act and it could very well have been much worse for them. As it stands they must all be sitting around wondering where it all went wrong in a season where they should have easily taken both titles.
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But why no punishment for Ferrari for using a movable floor in Melbourne? If the FIA had no issue with it, why did they change their testing requirments?


Lord Blackadder said:
Alonso to Renault next season, I can't imagine that Ron Dennis can stand the sight of him at this point.
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And good riddance to him!!! Would love to see Mark Webber along side Lewis next year.
 
YES!

After 7 years, Kimi finally got the title. This time car was reliable enough (as it wasn't in 2003) and the team mate didn't manage to take him down (as it was in 2005).

YES!!
 
JFreak said:
YES!

After 7 years, Kimi finally got the title. This time car was reliable enough (as it wasn't in 2003) and the team mate didn't manage to take him down (as it was in 2005).

YES!!
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Could you neck one back for me when you go out to celebrate later... now that we're supporting the same driver and all. :eek: ;) :D

I was screaming at the telly to get Ferrari to let Kimi through once it it hit 75% distance, I had visions of a Brazil 2003 situation happening and Fred ending up winning because of Massa leading!
 
scotthayes said:
But why no punishment for Ferrari for using a movable floor in Melbourne? If the FIA had no issue with it, why did they change their testing requirments?
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Because Ferrari's floor passed the test and was thus legal. A clarification and change to the testing procedure was issued and not only Ferrari (but also McLaren and other teams I believe) had to make changes to their floor designs.
 
Why has driver fairness only just become and issue. Why was it never scrutinised and monitored when Schuy was around?
 
bartelby said:
Yeah, now he's won:rolleyes::p:D
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I'll always support whoever drives the red car... apart from Fred that is. ;)

Kimi had a piss poor start to the season, I don't think that's up for debate, but he's really nailed the second half.

It's a shame Flippy suffered the number of mechanical gremlins that he did, otherwise he'd have been fighting for the championship as well, in pure pace stakes... there's little to choose between them both. :eek:

Now... how many more years do I have to wait until Mick Schumacher is old enough for a Super License??? ;) :D
 
bartelby said:
Why has driver fairness only just become and issue. Why was it never scrutinised and monitored when Schuy was around?
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Different situation... Ferrari weren't actively screwing with Schumacher's teammates cars, unlike McLaren were alleged to be doing.
 
scotthayes said:
Agree about Alonso and his antics, but it was Alonso who cheated by knowing the Ferrari setup and changing his car.
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True, but other McLaren employees acquired and used that information before Fred knew it existed.

scotthayes said:
But why no punishment for Ferrari for using a movable floor in Melbourne? If the FIA had no issue with it, why did they change their testing requirments?
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<shrug> I don't know why they weren't punished, but you have to admit that what McLaren did goes far beyond illegal aerodynamic devices - they had the entire ferrari car design and all of the Scuderia's operational procedures in their pocket!

scotthayes said:
And good riddance to him!!! Would love to see Mark Webber along side Lewis next year.
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Fred needs a Latin boss like Flav to reign him in, not a phlegmatic, stiff-upper-lip Brit.

Is Webber good enough though, or is he another Button?

iGav said:
I'll always support whoever drives the red car... apart from Fred that is. ;)
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After this season Alonso will be a tough sell for anyone other than Renault IMHO. I can't see him staying at McLaren, and Ferrari now have a new world champion driver plus a very good No.2 driver.
 
Shut up now, just celebrate Kimi's title :) He won most races this year and deserves the crown. Even if McLaren drivers did or didn't gain from having Ferrari tech in their cars (or not), Kimi won 6 races compared to 4 wins each for Hamilton and Alonso.

Celebrate! :)
 
JFreak said:
He won most races this year and deserves the crown.
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Just how it should be... :D

I still can't believe it though... it's like 1986 all over again. Incredible finish to the season. Literally the championship was open until the very last lap. :eek:
 
LOL, well no matter how much we talk about McLaren, Kimi won it in a season that came down to the last race - something I've never experienced before. I hope I don't have to wait to long to see it happen again!

I have to say that Raikkonen deserved it more than the other two, after a couple heartbreaking runner-up finishes.
 
iGav said:
Because Ferrari's floor passed the test and was thus legal. A clarification and change to the testing procedure was issued and not only Ferrari (but also McLaren and other teams I believe) had to make changes to their floor designs.
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“Quite clearly, any such device would be designed to permit flexibility and is therefore strictly prohibited by Article 3.15 of the Technical Regulations.” Charlie Whiting... Said when McLaren sought clarification from the FIA if the would allow a device intended to pass the test but function at much higher forces.


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/57650

oh and the interesting word when it comes to Ferrari and the testing of the floor is "circumvent"!!!
 
I'm not a regular F1 watcher but wow, that was great theater. I really enjoyed watching it. I felt a bit sorry for Hamilton (who created some of his own problems though) but Kimi was a very worthy winner who had an excellent second half of the season, won 6 races, and should have won a world title before now.

I wondered why they didn't put more fuel in Hamilton's car on the 2nd stop? Was it too much weight for too long on the tires? (be gentle - I'm no F1 expert).
 
At last Fernando found out what that extra button on his steering wheel was for... (make Lewis go slow for 30 seconds)

I think Alonso may have been a bit cheeky at the start of the race a hit the brakes a few meters early into turn 3. Not sure, I will have to see it again.

But Kimi did deserve to win the title. He scored the most points. Lewis had more than his fair share of chances to win the title and a combination of himself making mistakes and the team screwing up, he didn't take it.

Bring on next season, yay.

When do we start the 2008 Formula One Thread?
 
Bloody Hell! Lewis could still win it.....

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Three cars that finished ahead of him are under investigation!
 
Didn't it surprise you the pace and competitiveness of the BMWs and the Williams this weekend? The thing is that you would not be able to tell the difference if you told Kimi he had not won the championship!
 
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