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Are You Waiting For A Stoakley-Seaburg and 2007 Graphics Cards 8-Core Mac Pro

  • No. I bought the FrankenMac

    Votes: 30 7.1%
  • Yes I Will Wait 'Til Apple Gets It Right

    Votes: 246 58.0%
  • Not sure. Waiting for benchmarks on the 4.4.07 model.

    Votes: 27 6.4%
  • I'll stick with 4 cores, thank you very much.

    Votes: 121 28.5%

  • Total voters
    424
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Link Aggregation With Netgear 12 Port GSM7212 Gigabit Managed Switch

For those of you who have a Mac Pro and/or a last gen Dual or Quad G5 with Dual Ethernet Ports, this Netgear GSM7212 Twelve Port switch lets you share multi-core capable tasks among up to 5 dual ethernet Macs with the next 8 core models (6th) with the IEEE 802.3ad Link Aggregation (LACP) feature.

Found them refurbished at Compuvest of Seattle for only $380 delivered.

I post this in case some of you were think of doing this and didn't know what hardware you need to do this. If the internet isn't necessary for your setup, you can use this switch to share cores in up to 6 Macs. If you want them to all be able to still get out to the internet, you can set up 5 Macs and use one of the last of two ports to link to your single Gigabit switch that leads to your internet router or directly to your internet DSL or cable modem.

This setup is mainly for Compressor transcoding or After Effects rendering that I know of. But I'm sure the 3D guys and gals here know other apps that also take advantage of Link Aggregation. Right? ;)
 
Great link Eidorian. I was thinking. it would be awesome if Otellini announced they are releasing the Harpertowns early then Steve walks on stage to announce the New Mac Pro. Ah. How sweet that would be. :eek:
 
It's the same chip and same technology. The process at which they are made mature over time, hence the same part with a lower TDP.

Again, the Xeon 5365 were still first officially released in August.

If chips were available before that they were OEM and not retail. In fact, I still have trouble finding retail Xeon 5365 in Denmark.

Here, I'll quote the link that I posted - since apparently it didn't work for you:

http://www.dailytech.com/New+Intel+Xeon+Steppings+on+the+Way/article7630.htm

Intel Xeon 5100 and 5300 receive minor enhancements

Intel has issued a new product change notification (PDF), or PCN, to partners in regards to dual and quad-core Xeon stepping changes. The stepping change brings the dual and quad-core Intel Xeon 5100 Woodcrest and 5300 Clovertown processors to stepping G0.

G0 introduces energy efficiency and virtualization enhancements.

Stepping G0 reduces power consumption during C1E halt states. Intel does not state how much less power stepping G0 processors consume in idle states except “some amount.” Intel improves VT technology in stepping G0.

The enhancements include:
  • APIC Task Priority Register (TPR) Virtualization
  • NMI-window exiting
  • Advanced VM-exit information for INS & OUTS

All stepping G0 processors will receive new CPUIDs. The Clovertown CPUID will change from 06F7 to 06FB while Woodcrest changes from 06F6 to 06FB. Stepping G0 processors will also receive new SSPEC numbers.

Stepping G0 processors will require a BIOS update with new microcode for proper identification. However, with the proper microcode update, users should be able to mix and match processor steppings in multi-processor configurations.​

The 150-watt B3 stepping that Apple is using is an evolution in process. As the process matured, sufficient numbers of chips that would reliably run at 3 GHz were being produced, and Intel offered those to its customers. Apparently most of the customers decided to say "no" and wait for the improved G0 chips.

The 120-watt G0 stepping is a different chip - there are changes in the logic circuits. Most of the logic is identical to the older 150-watt chips, but there are some changes. It has new features, and consumes less power. Some of the improvements are real logic changes, and others are a result of creating a new mask and tweaking the process with the new mask. Sometimes you need to modify the chip to capitalize on process improvements.

In some sense a chip is a "photograph" created with a certain process - and a "stepping" is a change in the "negative" to make a better "photograph".

As I said - "Don't be confused that both are called X5365 - the 150 watt chips are older technology". They can be the same process, and still be older technology.

After all, this whole thread is about the FrankenMac - old technology at new prices.
 
I'm going up there Tuesday to see and hear it for myself in person. :)

I'll look for you - I'll be staying in the city for the whole conference as well. ;)

I'll be dressed as a 7 foot tall Iphone with "steve jobs doesn't like mac people - no mini-tower" on the screen.

What will you be wearing?
 
I'm going up there Tuesday to see and hear it for myself in person. :)
Has Apple ever released anything at another companies show before? I would imagine Steve would want all the attention for himself. That said I would be extremely happy if this is true.

When in the conference might this happen? ;)
 
Has Apple ever released anything at another companies show before? I would imagine Steve would want all the attention for himself. That said I would be extremely happy if this is true.

When in the conference might this happen? ;)
I believe that the Dual Core Power Mac G5 and iPod 5G were at NAB.
 
IDF Is Similar to NAB From Apple's Point Of View

I don't think the Intel event is really the same as NAB...
NAB is to TV as Intel Developer's Forum is to Software Developers and Hardware System Manufacturers & Integrators. Apple is both. Besides we are in unchartered waters this year - the first that began with Apple already in the Intel Family of hardware manufacturers. And the timing of Intel going from 65nm to 45nm is historically unprecedented.

So anything is possible. It's impossible to predict one way or another. Last year Intel congratulated Apple during the keynote on the completion of their transition to Intel processors in less than 8 months during that first part of 2006. I agree it's unlikely Intel will want to brag they're giving Apple preferential access to the first wave of 3.16GHz 1600 MHz FSB Harpertowns in SS motherboards in front of all their other customers though.

Prognosis: Longshot. I think the most we can hope for is some sort of cryptic bone. Still looks like November 11 or Tuesday the 13th to be exact.
 
If anything, a new MacPro announcement will come either at Paris Expo, or with Leopard. Can't see Apple updating their main web page so quickly, not focusing on the iPods anymore. It seems too quick. Need at least 3 weeks for their web page to change. Unless the MacPro gets a silent update tomorrow. Time will tell.
 
If anything, a new MacPro announcement will come either at Paris Expo, or with Leopard. Can't see Apple updating their main web page so quickly, not focusing on the iPods anymore. It seems too quick. Need at least 3 weeks for their web page to change. Unless the MacPro gets a silent update tomorrow. Time will tell.

I wouldn't complain about a 'silent update' ... if only it would get here earlier :)
 
I'm also fine with a silent update (as long as they confirm the changes in the Apple store). Steve can talk about "our recent upgrade to the awesome new Harpertown Xeons" "Boom!" etc at the Leopard launch.

I'd prefer to have the machines sooner. :)

re: Multimedia - exactly. Whilst I'm sure Apple is important to Intel, their other clients move much more Intel stock and they wouldn't want to upset them.

Then again they could say: "Apple, Dell and HP etc are shipping from today with Harpertown"... Available from a warehouse near you!
 
September has got to bring something after the iPod give away ends. And the October 26 (my guess) Leopard launch will really lead the way toward a new set of fun times this Autumn. Meanwhile I've got to get a life. :eek: ;)

How's the battle going with the old obsession MM? Hope you get something useful from attending the Intel Developer's Forum tomorrow!:p
 
I'm also fine with a silent update (as long as they confirm the changes in the Apple store). Steve can talk about "our recent upgrade to the awesome new Harpertown Xeons" "Boom!" etc at the Leopard launch.

Right, everyone knows the MacPros are incredible. Don't need to be reminded at an event. So a silent update would do just fine. It can be talked about when Leopard comes out since its utilizing all 8 cores.
 
Intel Will Post Video Of Keynotes Tomorrow Afternoon And So Forth

How's the battle going with the old obsession MM? Hope you get something useful from attending the Intel Developer's Forum tomorrow!:p
I changed my mind. I'll just wait here and watch it on the IDF video they'll post tomorrow afternoon.

we need 4 more posts.
 
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