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NO WAY. Rivers ain't great (the Chargers were better off with Breese) but he isn't Leaf. Frankly, I don't think the poorest QB in the league is equal to Leaf. That guy blew and screwed over a GM (Beathard) coach (Ross) and a franchise for a...

DECADE!

Think about that.

Where would the Colts be if they picked differently? Chasing the Dolphins tail for the past ten years?!

BTW, our local AM radio guy made a Bill Belicheat (Hateriots) song for you guys (I thing the Boston Herald or something wrote about it): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTqrAnzwX3o

Lighten up Francis :p I meant looks wise..Leaf is the biggest bust in the history of the NFL. Yeah,I heard about the song..It's better than that farkin "San Diego Superchargers" song...:eek:
 
I'm not blaming the Pats for their conference being poor, but those blowout games allow for resting of the starters that other teams don't necessarily get. Their season is very impressive, I'm just being facetious when I point out that they had 6 easy games. You could just as easily point out that the Packers managed to lose twice, once by a huge margin, to the Chicago Bears of all teams... if not for that we'd be 15-1...

But as it's been said before "Any given Sunday..."

The Patriots never rested any of their starters, so that's sort of a moot point.
 
NO WAY. Rivers ain't great (the Chargers were better off with Brees) but he isn't Leaf. Frankly, I don't think the poorest QB in the league is equal to Leaf. That guy blew and screwed over a GM (Beathard) coach and a franchise for a...

indeed. i remember when leaf was supposed to be the savior of the chargers. wow, what a let down he was. as for rivers, i think i'd rank him above stan humphries but a bit below drew brees.
 
The Patriots never rested any of their starters, so that's sort of a moot point.

Resting doesn't necessarily mean benching....

Do you think your QB is going to scramble to make a play as hard and risk injury when you're up by more than two scores? or is he going to throw it away? There's a lot of mental and physical relaxation that can take place in a game where you are solidly dominating every aspect of play than a game where you're struggling to survive. I give a lot of credit to the Pats for their clear dominance in just about every aspect of the game which makes it look like they are just phoning it in until the final minutes when they realize they need to score X points or more to win and then score them at will.

A blowout is much less taxing on the players than a really close game, and less likely to end up with injured players on the winning team regardless of if it's starters or not.

You people are taking me way too seriously...:D
 
I think the Patriots did go pretty all out for most of their late-season games. Not completely, but pretty close. That Patriots-Giants game featured both teams going totally all out in a technically meaningless game.

I think New York owes some of its playoff success to their performance, and the Patriots owe a bit to being even more battle-tested before the postseason.
 
I wasn't apologizing to you, I was apologizing for further derailing the thread. :D

Chargers, right. Packers are the only team left that have a shot at beating the Pats.



I'm still trying to recover from that commercial.

Oh I know what you meant, I don't think anyone took it poorly though, but I may be wrong. Anyway I digress.

To be honest, I think it would be more fun to see the Pats go 18 and 1, but I'm so sick of seeing them in the Superbowl that I'd like to see the Chargers do it. But you're probably right, I think San Diego can beat them, but the Packers are more likely to if anything.

As a New Yorker I'd love to see the Giants do it, but I don't think they'll beat the Packers let alone the Pats. Plus it would be nice to see Favre get one more so he can retire on top.
 
I think New York owes some of its playoff success to their performance, and the Patriots owe a bit to being even more battle-tested before the postseason.

Bingo! We have a winner..My point exactly..Look at the teams that rested and or took it easy on their starters the last week of the reg season..Tampa Bay,one and done..Indy,one and done (and nobody can tell me Indy didn't look flat or out of sync in that game)..Even the Cowboys weren't playing all that great coming down the stretch..Giants went balls to the wall,played all their starters and played their asses off in a totally meaningless game..And are now in the NFC Championship game...
 
Physically and psychologically, the Chargers gave their all against the Colts. It's been a long time since they've won a playoff game, and they were underdogs. Will they have time to mentally and physically recharge before the Pats game? Personally, I don't think so.
 
Physically and psychologically, the Chargers gave their all against the Colts. It's been a long time since they've won a playoff game, and they were underdogs. Will they have time to mentally and physically recharge before the Pats game? Personally, I don't think so.

Not for nothing,but why is Norv giving his players two days off:
Chargers players were off yesterday and today, so Olshansky was unavailable for comment.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/chargers/20080115-9999-1s15chnotes.html
So they've got three days to prepare, one day of travel and a cross country flight? I can understand him giving them Monday,after the all night flight,but two days?
 
Time to put their final affairs in order?

Apparently Norv agrees with me though. I'm sure that part of them believes that when they prepared for the Pats early in the season that the game plan will stick with them now. Of course, they are a different team now than they were then. Not that it will make a difference.. they'll still loose. :)
 
That game plan in September was with a healthy team tho ;) Anyways, I hope the crowd is as jacked as in the Indy AFCCG..Gonna be great football weather for sure!
 
So apparently some lady is trying to extort money from Randy Moss.

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. (AP) -- Randy Moss said Wednesday that allegations he committed battery against a woman are false and that she made the claim to get money from him.

"I want to make something clear," the Patriots wide receiver said while surrounded by reporters and cameras at his locker. "In my whole entire life of living 30 years, I've never put my hand on one woman, physically or in an angry manner."

SI

Patriots owner Robert Kraft said the team will honor 14-year-old Anna Grant before Sunday's game. Grant, a high school freshman from Stratham, N.H., was the team's representative in a Punt, Pass & Kick competition in her age group, and when she was introduced at the RCA Dome in Indianapolis before the fourth quarter Sunday, she was the only one booed. "Why should a champion be booed?" Kraft said. "She won an intensive competition. She's supposed to be honored. We will recognize her as the winner on the field. Our fans will know." Grant said, "It really didn't bother me at all. People at the game came up to me afterward and said, 'It's not you. It's your jersey.' "

Boston Globe
 
In response to how everyone thinks it was uncivil of the Colts fans to boo that girl...no it wasn't. Sure, it might seem tasteless, but the whole reason we enjoy sports is we have teams we like who want to beat the teams we don't like (rivalries). If you see someone in a rival jersey, you boo them. At USC, anyone stupid enough to wear a UCLA jersey on campus or near campus will get yelled at, etc. If you go to Westwood (UCLA's college town) with a piece of USC apparel on, you will get yelled at.
 
So USC students and fans would boo a 12 year old girl that wandered around the stands wearing a UCLA jersey?? That's tasteless for sure.
 
It might be lame but get 50,000 people full of beer and see what happens.

I'm sure there were.. but none of the other kids got boo'd. I still find it tasteless and you won't persuade me that it isn't. Because it is. It doesn't matter who it is. Thousands of people booing a kid because of what team they like is lowbrow.
 
I'm sure there were.. but none of the other kids got boo'd. I still find it tasteless and you won't persuade me that it isn't. Because it is. It doesn't matter who it is. Thousands of people booing a kid because of what team they like is lowbrow.
I agree but I don't think the Colts fans are the only ones to do it.
So apparently some lady is trying to extort money from Randy Moss.
Do you know for certain that is the case? Just because you want to root for him doesn't make him innocent.
 
No more then a Red Sox fan would boo a Yankee jersey in Fenway.

There's a difference between booing some 30 year old MFY fan sitting in the stand at Fenway wearing a yankees jersey and booing a 14 year old girl being honored on the field and wearing the jersey just because that's where she lives.


If I went to a Colts game in Indy wearing a Pats jersey, I'd expect to get booed.
But she's a 14 year old kid who won the Punt, Pass & Kick competition, and she was being honored for that on the field. They wear the jerseys of the home team from where they're from.. she's from NH so she was wearing a Pats jersey. That's just classless to boo her because of that.

Do you know for certain that is the case? Just because you want to root for him doesn't make him innocent.

Innocent until proven guilty. Besides, I'm more inclined to believe him than some random gold digger who's just trying to get money.

When someone says "Give me X amount of money (Moss said she wanted 6 figures) or I'll go public with this", it usually means they're just trying to get money.
 
You're right..Eagle's fans booed Santa Claus...
The Eagles fans boo anything.
Innocent until proven guilty. Besides, I'm more inclined to believe him than some random gold digger who's just trying to get money.

When someone says "Give me X amount of money (Moss said she wanted 6 figures) or I'll go public with this", it usually means they're just trying to get money.
Well we don't really know either way, no reason to claim anything. Moss was not the model citizen before New England tho.
Moss has avoided off-field problems this season and has been hailed by other Patriots players as an excellent teammate and leader. In his previous nine seasons -- seven with Minnesota and two with Oakland -- he was involved in several incidents.

With Minnesota, he was criticized by quarterback Daunte Culpepper and others for leaving the field with 2 seconds left in a regular-season loss to Washington. He bumped a traffic control officer with his car in 2002, verbally abused corporate sponsors on a team bus in 2001 and squirted an official with a water bottle in 1999.
 
Got about 50 minutes until kickoff..

23 degrees here right now.. wind doesn't look too bad outside.

weather.com says 10-15 gusts up to like 20.. not too bad


Up at Lambeau, it's currently 1 degree. They said wind chills could go down to as much as 35 degrees below.
 
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