Yeah, like the home kit, not so keen on the away kit. The orange away kit was one of my favourites. That and the yellow kit with pale blue trim.
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2008-09 Football Thread - The Second Half
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Actually, I can't say I'm that keen on it. Arsenal wish they could pull off pinstripes as well as Brian Horton. 
Assuming these are all genuine...
Bolton's home is awful, Blackburn's away is okay as is West Ham's, I can't really see Wigan's well enough to give an informed opinion, Liverpool away is very stylish indeed, Stoke away is decent enough, Chelsea away looks a bit odd with those shoulders (apparently the same as Liverpool's but the colours and hoops don't work nearly as well with them), Chelsea third is ruined by the yellow, Wolves home is good but too orange while the away is okay, Sunderland's home is great (although I'm not certain about the ghosted crest), Newcastle's home looks very good and the 'keeper's isn't bad either, Everton's home I'm not convinced by, and the Wendies' away kit is okay while the home looks very smart indeed.
I hope that's sorted that out.
It's interesting to see that many manufacturers are going for a retro look with simple, bold colours and relatively few frills and fripperies – I'm pleased by this as I like football shirts to be simple and classy. Some actually seem to be directly inspired by a particular vintage shirt, Everton's being a key example.
Assuming these are all genuine...
Bolton's home is awful, Blackburn's away is okay as is West Ham's, I can't really see Wigan's well enough to give an informed opinion, Liverpool away is very stylish indeed, Stoke away is decent enough, Chelsea away looks a bit odd with those shoulders (apparently the same as Liverpool's but the colours and hoops don't work nearly as well with them), Chelsea third is ruined by the yellow, Wolves home is good but too orange while the away is okay, Sunderland's home is great (although I'm not certain about the ghosted crest), Newcastle's home looks very good and the 'keeper's isn't bad either, Everton's home I'm not convinced by, and the Wendies' away kit is okay while the home looks very smart indeed.
I hope that's sorted that out.
It's interesting to see that many manufacturers are going for a retro look with simple, bold colours and relatively few frills and fripperies – I'm pleased by this as I like football shirts to be simple and classy. Some actually seem to be directly inspired by a particular vintage shirt, Everton's being a key example.
It's not as orange in real life as it looks in that other picture.
The new shirt seems very popular, they've sold over 4,000 of them since they went on sale on Friday morning, with the Premier League badges a nice addition for an extra £7.
Sunderland couldn't get anything out of tonight's game so now all 4 teams know what the need to do this weekend to survive.
Sunderland:
Will survive with
a) a win
b) a draw or loss and a Newcastle draw or loss.
c) a draw or loss and Hull draw or loss.
Will be relegated with
a draw or loss and both a Newcastle win and a Hull win.
Hull:
Will survive with
a) a win
b) a draw and a Newcastle draw or loss
c) a loss, and a Newcastle loss and a Middlesborough draw or loss.
d) a loss, and a Newcastle loss and a Middlesborough win such that the margin of victory of Middlesborough's win + the margin of victory of Hull's loss is less than 4.
Will be relegated with
a) a draw and a Newcastle win.
b) a loss and a Newcastle win or draw.
c) a loss and a Newcastle loss and a Middlesborough win such that the margin of victory of Middlesborough's win + the margin of victory of Hull's loss is greater than 4.
Newcastle:
Will survive with
a) a win and a Sunderland draw or loss.
b) a win and a Hull draw or loss.
c) a draw and a Hull loss and a Middlesborough loss, draw, or win by less than 10 goals.
Will be relegated with
a) a win and both a Sunderland win and a Hull win.
b) a draw and a Hull win or draw.
c) a draw and a Hull loss and a Middlesborough win by more than 10 goals.
d) a loss
Middlesborough :
Will Survive with
a) a win and a Newcastle loss and a Hull loss such that the margin of victory of Middlesborough's win + the margin of victory of Hull's loss is greater than 4.
b) a win by more than 10 goals and a Hull loss and a Newcastle draw.
Will be relegated with
a) a loss
b) a draw
c) a win and a Hull win or draw
d) a win and a Newcastle win
e) a win, a Newcastle loss and a Hull loss such that the margin of victory of Middlesborough's win + the margin of victory of Hull's loss is less than 4.
f) a win by less than 10 goals, a Hull loss and a Newcastle draw.
I think I have everything correct, let me know if you see a mistake.
Sunderland:
Will survive with
a) a win
b) a draw or loss and a Newcastle draw or loss.
c) a draw or loss and Hull draw or loss.
Will be relegated with
a draw or loss and both a Newcastle win and a Hull win.
Hull:
Will survive with
a) a win
b) a draw and a Newcastle draw or loss
c) a loss, and a Newcastle loss and a Middlesborough draw or loss.
d) a loss, and a Newcastle loss and a Middlesborough win such that the margin of victory of Middlesborough's win + the margin of victory of Hull's loss is less than 4.
Will be relegated with
a) a draw and a Newcastle win.
b) a loss and a Newcastle win or draw.
c) a loss and a Newcastle loss and a Middlesborough win such that the margin of victory of Middlesborough's win + the margin of victory of Hull's loss is greater than 4.
Newcastle:
Will survive with
a) a win and a Sunderland draw or loss.
b) a win and a Hull draw or loss.
c) a draw and a Hull loss and a Middlesborough loss, draw, or win by less than 10 goals.
Will be relegated with
a) a win and both a Sunderland win and a Hull win.
b) a draw and a Hull win or draw.
c) a draw and a Hull loss and a Middlesborough win by more than 10 goals.
d) a loss
Middlesborough :
Will Survive with
a) a win and a Newcastle loss and a Hull loss such that the margin of victory of Middlesborough's win + the margin of victory of Hull's loss is greater than 4.
b) a win by more than 10 goals and a Hull loss and a Newcastle draw.
Will be relegated with
a) a loss
b) a draw
c) a win and a Hull win or draw
d) a win and a Newcastle win
e) a win, a Newcastle loss and a Hull loss such that the margin of victory of Middlesborough's win + the margin of victory of Hull's loss is less than 4.
f) a win by less than 10 goals, a Hull loss and a Newcastle draw.
I think I have everything correct, let me know if you see a mistake.
I think that just about covers it, Motty.
So, the question is which of your myriad scenarios do you actually think will happen?
So, the question is which of your myriad scenarios do you actually think will happen?
I think that just about covers it, Motty.
So, the question is which of your myriad scenarios do you actually think will happen?
I can actually see all 4 teams losing.
I'd happily go with that. Any scenario is fine with me as long as it doesn't end up with us having a little 'R' next to our name come 6pm on Sunday...
been following these scottish boys this season and they just earned promotion a week ago:
It's been a lot of fun.
It's been a lot of fun.
Heh. Us regular Football Threaders should adopt a team en masse next season and keep an eye on their progress (or lack of it) over the course of the campaign. The more obscure the better.
Hull have the toughest match IMO, even with Man United having nothing to play for. Sunderland seems eager to join the scrap, so it's anyone's guess what will happen. I'm still going with Middlesbrough and Newcastle for the drop. I'd like nothing better than to see Hull get a result against United too.
Heh. Us regular Football Threaders should adopt a team en masse next season and keep an eye on their progress (or lack of it) over the course of the campaign. The more obscure the better.
I'm in.
UP YOU AMBER MAGICIANS!!
I vote for Acrington Stanley!
I've actually seen them play this season, they nearly beat Wolves in the first round of the League Cup.
Heh. Us regular Football Threaders should adopt a team en masse next season and keep an eye on their progress (or lack of it) over the course of the campaign. The more obscure the better.
I'm in as well. We can decide over the summer to pass the time until the start of next season.
I've seen Brid Town play a couple of times this season. Me and Miss Jaffa Cake had a very enjoyable time at Queensgate.I remember when Brid Town beat them to win the FA Vase
The chippy across the road used to be decent, not sure if it's still thereI've seen Brid Town play a couple of times this season. Me and Miss Jaffa Cake had a very enjoyable time at Queensgate.
My favourite chippy in the world is about halfway between Queensgate and Ma and Pa Cake's house, so the opportunity for post match snackage is there. And Miss Jaffa Cake always looks forward to a soup at the ground, Queensgate soup is rather delicious.
Non-league football is ace.
Non-league football is ace.
Best chippy is Jacks, on Hilderthorpe Rd near Tesco. £2.50 for fish & chips, blinding!
Last thing I remember about Brid Town's ground was that it was getting demolished when the club folded. The club was then reformed from the Greyhound pub team who some of my mates played for
Last thing I remember about Brid Town's ground was that it was getting demolished when the club folded. The club was then reformed from the Greyhound pub team who some of my mates played for
Non-league football is ace.
It is but not when your team is in it
dark times! I do prefer lower league football to the premier league though, especially when you can go down for away days and there is only about 100 fans in the away end. Such good banter!
Heh. Us regular Football Threaders should adopt a team en masse next season and keep an eye on their progress (or lack of it) over the course of the campaign. The more obscure the better.
I thought we had this year with Hull???
It is but not when your team is in it
Talking about lower league football, 20 odd years ago Wolves hit a spot of bother and ended up in the 4th division.
After narrowly avoiding going out of business, signing a young local player called Steve Bull and missing out in the play offs in the first season, we won the 4th and 3rd division titles in successive seasons with Bully getting 50 goals in both seasons.
During these two seasons and depending on the other teams ground capacity, we were taking up to 6,000 fans to away matches. We often ended up with more supporters than the home teams and even took over 50,000 fans down to Wembley to watch us win the Sherpa Van Trophy final.
So yes, the lower leagues can be fun.
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