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2008-09 NFL Season Thread

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BURRESS COULD BE FACING 3.5 YEARS IN JAIL
As it turns out, the accidental self-shooting of Giants receiver Plaxico Burress occurred in a Manhattan night club on Friday night. Per ESPN’s Jeremy Schaap, the incident occurred at the Latin Quarter, a 15,000-square foot restaurant and club located in a Radisson Hotel.

ESPN’s Sal Paolantonio reports that the bullet went through skin and muscle tissue in the right thigh. No arteries were struck, and no bones were broken.

The Giants have confirmed generally that Burress suffered a bullet wound to his right thigh. However, the team’s statement did not address the cause of the shooting.

“We are aware of the fact that Plaxico was involved in an apparent accidental shooting last night. We have been in contact with Plaxico since shortly after the incident,” the statement said. “Obviously, our primary concern is for Plaxico’s health and well-being, and given the circumstances, we are relieved to say he was released from a New York City hospital at approximately 2 p.m. today.

Per the ESPN report, police said that Burress could face criminal charges if he was not licensed to carry a concealed weapon in New York.
And that’s where things get problematic for Burress. (Apart from, you know, the bullet in the thigh.)

If, as we’ve heard it, the accidental bullet came from a gun that Burress was carrying and if Burress was not in legal possession of the loaded weapon at the time of the incident, he could be facing a mandatory minimum jail sentence of 3.5 years.

In 2006, New York beefed up its laws regarding illegal gun possession. The following year, New York City officials embarked on a campaign aimed at communicating to all citizens the serious consequences of illegal gun possession.

“GUNS = PRISON” was the message.

“Last year, our Administration succeeded in pushing through a law that gives New York the toughest penalty in the country for carrying an illegal loaded handgun,” New York mayor Michael Bloomberg said in July 2007. “Now, if you are convicted, you will serve a minimum of 3-1/2 years behind bars — no exceptions.”

Though it’s entirely possible that Burress dotted every “i” and crossed every “t” required to ensure that he would have the ability to legally take a loaded gun into a public club, he doesn’t have a reputation for following rules, either when imposed by society or by his employer. The Giants and the NFL have fined him multiple times, and he has had problems with unpaid parking tickets and delinquent taxes in the past.

It’ll be very interesting to see how this one plays out.
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At least we know he won't be playing for the Giants next year. This should be all they need to know to not resign him.
 
MacNut said:
At least we know he won't be playing for the Giants next year. This should be all they need to know to not resign him.
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Looks like he'll be playing for the Mean Machine.



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reality check

The New York Jets lead their division with a nearly middle aged QB, unless semi white haired Favre is already middle aged. Not bad for an old man.

I don't have high hopes for him and his team as there is just too much talent out there this year. I think Tennessee will get it this year.
 
Either the Titans or the Steelers will play the Giants in the Superbowl.
 
zioxide said:
Brady is one of the top 5 quarterbacks in NFL history and was the MVP of the league last year. There's no way he is going anywhere.

The Patriots will most likely franchise Cassel to keep him around one more year in case Brady isn't 100% recovered (It took McNabb and Palmer about 2 full years to get to pre-injury condition.)
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There is no way Brady is in the top 5 for quarterbacks of all time in the NFL.

Sorry, the list is much longer than that. He's ok, but he can't throw under pressure worth anything... and he can't run the ball or move around in the pocket that well. He's got a hell of an arm, that's for sure.... but that aside, he's not anywhere near the top 5 man.
 
MacNut said:
McNabb's career might be over with.
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Heh... I guess you're eating those words now...... a few bad games with our offensive line playing piss poor (yes i'm an eagles fan) and you are ready to throw our 5-time pro-bowl QB out to dry.

Hell, even this season.... including the 3 or 4 bad games he had.... he's still better than most of the other quarterbacks in the league.

This last game he played proved that for sure.
 
nimda0 said:
There is no way Brady is in the top 5 for quarterbacks of all time in the NFL.

Sorry, the list is much longer than that. He's ok, but he can't throw under pressure worth anything... and he can't run the ball or move around in the pocket that well. He's got a hell of an arm, that's for sure.... but that aside, he's not anywhere near the top 5 man.
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The list is huge to say all time with Namath, Unitas, Bradshaw, Fouts, Tarkenton, Staubach, Stabler, etc.

I could make a case that he is in the top 5 of the last 25 years along with Young, Montana, Marino, and Aikman (Young is on the list with his impossibly high rating, Joe has four rings, Marino left the NFL with almost every record a QB can have, and Aikman has three rings and won more decisively in his wins than Brady). I would put Brady on that list. I would give honorable mention to Theisman, Favre, Warner, Manning (the older one), and Elway, and some others. Brady deserves to be on top 5 or the last 25 years because of three close wins against a tough opponent, a high QB rating, and good instincts playing a conservative game with a team that played likewise. He could not scramble like Young, blow out an opponent in the Super Bowl like Montana or Young, or take a hit like Favre, but Brady has been great so far.

We know Brady is not the tough scrambler, and has been bailed out by 3 point kicks, but for him to be the all time greatest, he would have to win five rings, which is more than anybody out there in NFL history, and retire with a high QB rating up there in the Montana or Manning numbers in the low 90s.

And to say who is "best" on that list is very hard to do. But I can pretty easily make a case and say the best offensive player in NFL history is Jerry Rice.
 
MacNut said:
Either the Titans or the Steelers will play the Giants in the Superbowl.
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I wouldn't count out Indy so easily.Even tho they're not dominating,they're winning. Pitts has some tough remaining games (DAL,BAL,TENN) which would affect seedings if they lose. Any team in the hunt can heat up through December into January. I know one thing..Nobody will be resting players going into the playoffs..Each team that did that last year,was one and done...
The NFL still hopes for their ultimate wet dream..Could you imagine a Manning brother's Super Bowl??:eek:
 
fotografica said:
I wouldn't count out Indy so easily.Even tho they're not dominating,they're winning. Pitts has some tough remaining games (DAL,BAL,TENN) which would affect seedings if they lose. Any team in the hunt can heat up through December into January. I know one thing..Nobody will be resting players going into the playoffs..Each team that did that last year,was one and done...
The NFL still hopes for their ultimate wet dream..Could you imagine a Manning brother's Super Bowl??:eek:
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That's almost a rivalry, but they as QBs, won't be playing against each other on the field at the same time.

It's not quite as interesting as the Williams sisters, though I have seen the commercials featuring both sets of siblings all together, so enough of the public see the Mannings as sibling rivals. Now if one of the Mannings was a QB and the other was, let's say, the equivalent of defensive weapon ala Lawrence Taylor or anybody who can slam a QB hard, then that would be very interesting to watch. Or if one Manning was on the offensive line and the other on the opposing team's defensive line, that would be fun, especially playbacks on infractions. "Wait, ref, he b****slapped me!" Nothing would be more interesting to see two brothers stare each other down on the line. :)
 
Oakland is in the 4th Q way down by 20 points and if they lose tonight, they are eliminated from any chance of the playoffs in this first game of week 14 in the NFL.

San Francisco, in the NFC, is one loss away from elimination.

Not such good odds for the two Bay Area teams. Oh well, there's next year, unless some really miraculous things happen tonight for Oakland and for their remaining games. A miracle almost as crazy would have to happen for SF for their remainder of the season.

Every year I have been hoping for a Battle of the Bay since the Raiders moved back to the Bay Area from Los Angeles. If that does not happen, I am OK with San Diego getting in as long as the big game could be an all-California deal. That way, it's less stress about wondering if my state can have an NFL champ. The last time a California team has won a Super Bowl was back in Jan '95 so it's been a long, long time.

UPDATE 11:30 EST

so now Oakland is eliminated so no AFC Bay Area team this year
 
the pats must be desperate, because they signed washed up seau again.

The New England Patriots have signed 39-year-old linebacker Junior Seau to replace Adalius Thomas. Seau is a 19-year veteran and 12-time Pro Bowl player. He played 27 games for the Patriots the last two seasons but hasn't been with a team this season. Thomas will miss the rest of the season because of an arm injury and was placed on injured reserve Friday.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-patriots-seau&prov=ap&type=lgns

and on the diuretic suspensions, i think they should be dropped because the makers didn't put on the banned substances on the label and thus had to be pulled from the market. i wouldn't blame the players on this one, because they had no clue what was in them. and i'm not saying that because it's three saints players that are in trouble.
 
furcalchick said:
and on the diuretic suspensions, i think they should be dropped because the makers didn't put on the banned substances on the label and thus had to be pulled from the market. i wouldn't blame the players on this one, because they had no clue what was in them. and i'm not saying that because it's three saints players that are in trouble.
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The players will win that case.
 
Jets' Ellis charged with possession of marijuana.

So much for all the drama happening with the Giants.


FLORHAM PARK, N.J - Another local pro football player has found himself on the police blotter.

Jets defensive end Shaun Ellis was charged with possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia, speeding, failure to keep right, driving without insurance and failure to produce a valid registration card after being stopped Saturday morning, according to the Morristown Daily Record, which published the story last night.

Ellis was stopped in Hanover Township, N.J., a short distance from the Jets' practice facility in Florham Park, at 8:37 a.m. after speeding past a police car on Route 287 South, the story said.

In the police report cited by the Daily Record, Ellis was "uncooperative" when asked to show his paperwork. Ellis, a defensive captain in his ninth season -- he is the longest-tenured Jet -- was arrested and brought to the police station after officers found him in possession of marijuana, the Daily Record said.
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63dot said:
If that does not happen, I am OK with San Diego getting in as long as the big game could be an all-California deal.
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You've got a far better chance of seeing a Manning Bros SB than all Calif one. And considering they've QB'd the last two SB champs,that's not that far of a longshot.

rdowns said:
Jets' Ellis charged with possession of marijuana.

So much for all the drama happening with the Giants.
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Shooting yourself in the leg in a nightclub trumps getting nabbed with pot anyday...
 
Some sadistic Snowbird just sent me this via E-mail.


Michigan Law: The Michigan State Police are cracking down on speeders heading into Detroit .

For the first offense, they give you two Detroit Lions tickets.

If you get stopped a second time, they make you use them.


Q. What do you call 47 millionaires around a TV watching the Super Bowl?
A. The Detroit Lions.

Q. What do the Detroit Lions and Billy Graham have in common?
A. They both can make 70,000 people stand up and yell 'Jesus Christ'.

Q. How do you keep the Detroit Lions out of your yard?
A. Put up a goal post.

Q. Where do you go in Detroit in case of a tornado?
A. To Ford Field - they never have a touchdown there!

Q. What's the difference between the Detroit Lions and a dollar bill?
A. You can still get four quarters out of a dollar bill.

Q. What do the Detroit Lions and a possums have in common?
A. Both play dead at home and get killed on the road.
 
iJohnHenry said:
Some sadistic Snowbird just sent me this via E-mail.


Michigan Law: The Michigan State Police are cracking down on speeders heading into Detroit .

For the first offense, they give you two Detroit Lions tickets.

If you get stopped a second time, they make you use them.


Q. What do you call 47 millionaires around a TV watching the Super Bowl?
A. The Detroit Lions.

Q. What do the Detroit Lions and Billy Graham have in common?
A. They both can make 70,000 people stand up and yell 'Jesus Christ'.

Q. How do you keep the Detroit Lions out of your yard?
A. Put up a goal post.

Q. Where do you go in Detroit in case of a tornado?
A. To Ford Field - they never have a touchdown there!

Q. What's the difference between the Detroit Lions and a dollar bill?
A. You can still get four quarters out of a dollar bill.

Q. What do the Detroit Lions and a possums have in common?
A. Both play dead at home and get killed on the road.
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That was our Dolphins last year. Very funny.
 
furcalchick said:
the pats must be desperate, because they signed washed up seau again.



http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-patriots-seau&prov=ap&type=lgns
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Two many injuries. Adalius Thomas, Shawn Crable, Eric Alexander, and Bo Rudd are all on IR. Pierre Woods and Bruschi have both been questionable the past couple of weeks. They can't play with only 3 healthy linebackers (Mayo, Vrabel, Guyton)

They brought Colvin back too. They're mostly depth signings. Plus I don't mind the fact that Seau can help Bruschi and Vrabel teach the young guys Mayo, Guyton, and Woods how to play.
 
fotografica said:
You've got a far better chance of seeing a Manning Bros SB than all Calif one. And considering they've QB'd the last two SB champs,that's not that far of a longshot.
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This year, I agree. We may see a Manning Bowl. However, one of the teams seems like they really have to kick it up a notch to go all the way in their conference.

If it did come down to the big game, I think it could be close. If it came down to just who is the better QB, that title still belongs to Peyton, as far as career passer rating is concerned and records and overall career consistency.
 
iJohnHenry said:
Some sadistic Snowbird just sent me this via E-mail.


Michigan Law: The Michigan State Police are cracking down on speeders heading into Detroit .

For the first offense, they give you two Detroit Lions tickets.

If you get stopped a second time, they make you use them.


Q. What do you call 47 millionaires around a TV watching the Super Bowl?
A. The Detroit Lions.

Q. What do the Detroit Lions and Billy Graham have in common?
A. They both can make 70,000 people stand up and yell 'Jesus Christ'.

Q. How do you keep the Detroit Lions out of your yard?
A. Put up a goal post.

Q. Where do you go in Detroit in case of a tornado?
A. To Ford Field - they never have a touchdown there!

Q. What's the difference between the Detroit Lions and a dollar bill?
A. You can still get four quarters out of a dollar bill.

Q. What do the Detroit Lions and a possums have in common?
A. Both play dead at home and get killed on the road.
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This made me laugh..... My buddy is a Detriot fan.. The endless beating he has been taking this year. Yeah this will make his day! LOL
 
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