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Well that didn't go the way I would have liked it, but now I have to ask:

HOW CAN ANYBODY SAY THAT THE MWC DOESN'T BELONG WITH THE REST OF THE BIG 6 CONFERENCES. THE BCS SUCKS AND THIS PROVES IT.

Two back to back wins against the cream of the crop from the SEC and the Big 12. Both of them essentially home games for the "big boys", and you're going to say we still can't hang with the elite college football teams?

Your tired "Week In and Week Out" excuse is shot. OU was as fresh as can be.

SLC
 
Well that didn't go the way I would have liked it, but now I have to ask:

HOW CAN ANYBODY SAY THAT THE MWC DOESN'T BELONG WITH THE REST OF THE BIG 6 CONFERENCES. THE BCS SUCKS AND THIS PROVES IT.

Two back to back wins against the cream of the crop from the SEC and the Big 12. Both of them essentially home games for the "big boys", and you're going to say we still can't hang with the elite college football teams?

Your tired "Week In and Week Out" excuse is shot. OU was as fresh as can be.

SLC
but but but our mwc teams dont play every week in the big boy conferences lol

nevermind we beat the arguably best teams from the two best conferences
 
but but but our mwc teams dont play every week in the big boy conferences lol

nevermind we beat the arguably best teams from the two best conferences

Odd, I don't recall Florida losing to a MWC team lately.

In other news, I just noticed Virginia lost to William and Mary. I think Al Groh's seat just went from hot to blazing inferno. Duke has also resumed being Duke by losing to Richmond. Washington is also looking pretty good. How did this team go winless last year?
 
I can't believe BYU won! That's awesome! :D

I only watched about halfway through the second quarter, and then turned off the TV to spend some time with the wife since all day had been football. ;)

When did Bradford go down? Obviously that's a huge loss and I'm assuming contributed heavily to the loss, but was Oklahoma just sloppy?

Watching Washington and LSU right now. Has Sarkisian really turned the Huskies around this quickly? They're looking pretty good! Only down by 4 at half.
 
Your tired "Week In and Week Out" excuse is shot. OU was as fresh as can be.

You know, besides the fact that Mr. Heisman didn't play in the second half.

In other news, USC looked fantastic. Barkley was really impressive in his first start and Joe McKnight entered his name for Heisman contention. He's perfectly healthy and he looks great. He just glides.
 
You know, besides the fact that Mr. Heisman didn't play in the second half.

lol i should have expected excuses to somehow downplay the win

I can't believe BYU won! That's awesome! :D

I only watched about halfway through the second quarter, and then turned off the TV to spend some time with the wife since all day had been football. ;)

When did Bradford go down? Obviously that's a huge loss and I'm assuming contributed heavily to the loss, but was Oklahoma just sloppy?

Watching Washington and LSU right now. Has Sarkisian really turned the Huskies around this quickly? They're looking pretty good! Only down by 4 at half.

He went down literally right at half time

Regardless, BYU was impressive shutting OU down while Bradford was in the game as well. I mean, OU was the craziest offensive machine last year
In other news, USC looked fantastic. Barkley was really impressive in his first start and Joe McKnight entered his name for Heisman contention. He's perfectly healthy and he looks great. He just glides.

You know, I had my hopes up when USC was trailing early on lol
 
When did Bradford go down? Obviously that's a huge loss and I'm assuming contributed heavily to the loss, but was Oklahoma just sloppy?

I honestly don't think Bradford going down (late in the second quarter) had much to do with the loss.

Oklahoma's O-line was sloppy with penalties, most of them coming at very bad times. The backup QB allowed a delay penalty on 4th down from the one foot line as well.

Neither team looked really good, IMO. I don't know if it was first game jitters or what, but there was a lot of sloppy play and penalties on both sides.
 
I can't believe BYU won! That's awesome! :D

I only watched about halfway through the second quarter, and then turned off the TV to spend some time with the wife since all day had been football. ;)

When did Bradford go down? Obviously that's a huge loss and I'm assuming contributed heavily to the loss, but was Oklahoma just sloppy?

Watching Washington and LSU right now. Has Sarkisian really turned the Huskies around this quickly? They're looking pretty good! Only down by 4 at half.

He went down late in the second quarter.

We (meaning I am an OU fan) had the opportunities to win even with him out, but blew them. The offensive line played like crap. Way too many penalties. When OU went ahead 13-7, they could have easily gone up 17-7. 4th and goal at the foot line and they are going for it, only to get a bleeping delay of game.

On one hand, we played a half without our Heisman quarterback, and the entire game without our All-American TE (Gresham), which put OU in a disadvantage. However, they deserved to lose with how they played.

The good news is that it was a non-conference 1-point loss on a neutral field. They could hypothetically run the table and still play in a BCS bowl, maybe even for a NC. The season isn't over and at OU we are so spoiled with these winning seasons. Hopefully every Sooner fan will step off the ledge and realize they can still have a great year.
 
lol i should have expected excuses to somehow downplay the win

Heh heh... Come on now, I'm obviously all for the "little guys", but losing Bradford had to have a pretty big impact on the team.

He's obviously a very talented QB, but more importantly he's the team leader. It's like if Utah would have lost Brian Johnson last year and was replaced by a redshirt freshman that has never played a game. Any team in the country would struggle with that.

Imagine if Florida were to lose Tebow. :eek:
 
I can't believe BYU won! That's awesome! :D

I only watched about halfway through the second quarter, and then turned off the TV to spend some time with the wife since all day had been football. ;)

When did Bradford go down? Obviously that's a huge loss and I'm assuming contributed heavily to the loss, but was Oklahoma just sloppy?

Watching Washington and LSU right now. Has Sarkisian really turned the Huskies around this quickly? They're looking pretty good! Only down by 4 at half.

He went down right before halftime. And yeah, losing a Heisman winning QB who threw 50 TDs last year makes a difference. :) It was a combination of things. There were some plays Bradford probably would have made, but nothing really bad. I think maybe the coaches got too conservative in their play calling after he went down. To be honest, though, Max Hall won that game. There were several plays where he managed to get away from pressure and make some great throws. He really took over that game.

I was wondering the same thing about Washington. Can this be a repeat of Notre Dame? Willingham gets some talent in, doesn't do anything with them, gets fired, and the next coach does a good job with his recruits. I dunno.

One other note: Virginia Tech needs to find an offense. 155 yards of offense isn't going to win you many games, regardless of how good your defense and special teams are.
 
Oye. Lou Holtz going on about Notre Dame's victory over Nevada.

I think I'm gonna throw up.

I can't stand him anymore, and have never been able to stand Mark May.

/puke
 
Two back to back wins going back to last season against the cream of the crop from the SEC and the Big 12. Both of them essentially home games for the "big boys", and you're going to say we still can't hang with the elite college football teams?

Are you seriously suggesting that the MWC has played its way into a different echelon based on two - count 'em - TWO games, played in two different seasons?

I'll easily grant you that the MWC is one of the top 6 conferences in the country, especially given that the Big East doesn't have a single team ranked right now. But with all due respect, I'd like to see your "shot all to hell" (my words, not yours) argument be backed up by more than two (two! A whole two!) games played in two different seasons.

It's been said before, and I'll say it once again: until the MWC can negotiate deals with large-payout bowl games and play well in them consistently, then the BCS will not include that conference. The BCS came about because the bowls in question already had standing deals with the "big 6" conferences. I'm not convinced that the bowls will be in a rush to break those agreements just because a handful of MWC teams have won some games against "big 6" teams.
 
I've seen a lot of short kicks today. I don't think they've all been intentional, but some of them have been, including the one opening up the 2nd half in Washington.

What's with that?

...Wow, I thought that Huskies lineman pulled LSU's QB down by the facemask, but it was the shoulder pad. Heh.
 
Heres my plan

Expand the Pac-10. With the Pac 10, geography is vital: USC-UCLA, Oregon State-Oregon, Washington-Wazzu, Arizona-ASU, and Cal-Stanford. Each rivalry is huge for each school. Without a natural geographically close rival, a team simply won't be considered for Pac-10 play, if it ever wanted to expand.
I suggest having the teams be CU-CSU

Now, Utah and BYU would go to the Big 12

BSU would go to the MWC, which would iinclude the prominent teams of TCU and AF among the rest. Possibly add in Hawaii as well
 
lol i should have expected excuses to somehow downplay the win

Oh goodness, you don't think the win should be downplayed at all? It's like beating the Bulls without Michael Jordan.

I honestly don't think Bradford going down (late in the second quarter) had much to do with the loss.

That's flat-out delusional. I'm no OU fan (I dislike them, in fact), but you have to be crazy to think that losing Bradford didn't have much to do with the loss. You think OU scores only 13 points with him in the whole game? He's the most outstanding QB in the country, not just a good player. I guarantee you he puts up points in the second half.
 
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