Haha yeah he has really lost it. But yes - Lehmann in goal, we would've won that. Maybe the silver lining is it will show Arsene money has to be spent on this position in the summer. Doubt it though...
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2009-10 Football Thread The Second Half
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Haha yeah he has really lost it. But yes - Lehmann in goal, we would've won that. Maybe the silver lining is it will show Arsene money has to be spent on this position in the summer. Doubt it though...
Well, seeing as Pompey is desperately trying to sell players outside the transfer window in order to stave off oblivion, perhaps you could pick up England's former Number One David James.
While I feel for Arsenal and their disappointing result yesterday, I really feel bad for Fiorentina, who got absolutely jobbed by the referee (Tom Henning Ovrebo, woudn't ya know!) and linesman allowing an offside Miroslav Klose to score the go-ahead goal at the death.
This is just the latest in a chequered history of screw-ups. What's it going to take to get Ovrebo out of European football?
This is just the latest in a chequered history of screw-ups. What's it going to take to get Ovrebo out of European football?
Of course, given that the transfer window is shut across much of Europe the players wouldn't be able to move anywhere, surely – unless it's to Russia or somewhere? I suppose they could sell them, arrange for the deal to go through once the window reopens but start getting the payments in now.Well, seeing as Pompey is desperately trying to sell players outside the transfer window in order to stave off oblivion, perhaps you could pick up England's former Number One David James.
Mind, it's not a great thing to be asking for the same week you're in the courts arguing you're solvent, is it?
Personally, I don't think it should be allowed, nor do I think monies should be given to them in advance of other clubs. Look at it like this – Portsmouth were in direct competition with a number of other lower Premier League clubs for transfers, and were able to secure some players ahead of their rivals by paying over the top wages which they're now struggling to pay. If they get money early to bale them out, not only is it unfair to Portsmouth's rivals but exactly what message is that sending out to other clubs about how to manage their finances?
Actually, I missed it I didn't know he was on until the following day. How can I be expected to keep up with all his media appearances, after all?Someone was watching Phil Brown on Football Focus it seems
I take it he essentially said the same thing, then?
I saw the replay, and I can't blame the ref too much because he had a bad angle. The linesman, on the other hand, must have been daydreaming. Spectacularly bad call on his part.
I guess I was assuming they'd allow the player to move immediately, but now that I think about it, every other club in the league besides the buyers would (rightly) raise a hue and cry over that.
I really have to doubt it's going to be allowed...
By the way Jaffa, I see that Bullard is back in training and Zaki has failed to miss training so he is still there as well.
He's chained to a tree just outside the training ground in Cottingham. He's not going anywhere....Zaki has failed to miss training so he is still there as well.
I however, am West Ham on Saturday. Ace.
Awesome!
Aquilani starts today in Liverpool's Europa League match against the Romanians...or is that just Maxi Rodriguez in a mask?
Almost word for word!Actually, I missed it I didn't know he was on until the following day. How can I be expected to keep up with all his media appearances, after all?
I take it he essentially said the same thing, then?
He specifically mentioned a couple of players he wanted to sign but couldn't afford the wages Portsmouth were willing to offer. He also said he didn't believe they should have the relegation parachute payment early either, which I agree with
Here's a thought - how succesful would the fire sale actually be?
Look at it like this - you're the manager of a football club, and you've got your eye on a Portsmouth player. Finances are tight obviously, so do you put in a bid for said player (don't forget that there's a good chance he might not be allowed to play until the start of next season), or do you sit tight for a month or two and wait to see if Portsmouth go under - at which point the asking price will likely be lower or the player will be a free agent and cost you nothing (and would be able to play for you this season).
Portsmouth have known the trouble they are in for a long time, and they had the opportunity to make these sales during the transfer window which closed less than three weeks ago. They can have no excuse. Phil Brown probably agrees with me.
Look at it like this - you're the manager of a football club, and you've got your eye on a Portsmouth player. Finances are tight obviously, so do you put in a bid for said player (don't forget that there's a good chance he might not be allowed to play until the start of next season), or do you sit tight for a month or two and wait to see if Portsmouth go under - at which point the asking price will likely be lower or the player will be a free agent and cost you nothing (and would be able to play for you this season).
Portsmouth have known the trouble they are in for a long time, and they had the opportunity to make these sales during the transfer window which closed less than three weeks ago. They can have no excuse. Phil Brown probably agrees with me.
Well, the Daily Mail (Kg of salt needed) have reported that Pompey are clear to sell their players under a little-known 'club in crisis' rule but, in the process, they will be hit with a nine-point penalty by the Premier League.
Would this 'little known' rule be one they've just made up to stop them going under I wonder?
Would this 'little known' rule be one they've just made up to stop them going under I wonder?
It's been reported elsewhere too that they may be allowed to make sales, the BBC are currently carrying the story.
I also note with interest that it's reported that David Gold has offered to loan Portsmouth £10m to see them through to the end of the season. If this is true that's very generous of him, and I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that – should Portsmouth go under and their results to date be declared void – West Ham stand to lose more points than some of the other clubs lurking around the relegation places.
Given that with a player sale looking possible his generous offer may not be needed after all, perhaps Mr Gold will now be offering a chunk of that £10m to some of the other clubs currently facing financial peril? Crystal Palace, Stockport County, Cardiff City and Chester City are just some of the clubs who could benefit from the generosity of the Hammers' deep-pocketed chairman.
No, Mr Gold? I thought not.
I also note with interest that it's reported that David Gold has offered to loan Portsmouth £10m to see them through to the end of the season. If this is true that's very generous of him, and I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that – should Portsmouth go under and their results to date be declared void – West Ham stand to lose more points than some of the other clubs lurking around the relegation places.
Given that with a player sale looking possible his generous offer may not be needed after all, perhaps Mr Gold will now be offering a chunk of that £10m to some of the other clubs currently facing financial peril? Crystal Palace, Stockport County, Cardiff City and Chester City are just some of the clubs who could benefit from the generosity of the Hammers' deep-pocketed chairman.
No, Mr Gold? I thought not.
Gold is doing that for publicity. He knows full well that the rules of club ownership don't allow him to own one club and have financial interest in another.
Also, if Portsmouth are allowed to trade outside the transfer window then I suspect it might be the end of the window altogether - it just isn't fair. The buying team(s) will get an unfair advantage of being allowed to strengthen their squad outside of the agreed time periods. I don't think it will happen.
The Premiership is just desperate to save Portsmouth long enough for them to be relegated so that they're the football league's problem.
Richest league in the world and all that jazz..
Also, if Portsmouth are allowed to trade outside the transfer window then I suspect it might be the end of the window altogether - it just isn't fair. The buying team(s) will get an unfair advantage of being allowed to strengthen their squad outside of the agreed time periods. I don't think it will happen.
The Premiership is just desperate to save Portsmouth long enough for them to be relegated so that they're the football league's problem.
Richest league in the world and all that jazz..
I have a lot of sympathy for Pompey supporters (except the dude in the goofy hat), but this isn't a special case, so why is it being treated as one?
From a a perspective of fairness, Portsmouth should be allowed to go bankrupt. No last minute deals with HM Revenue, no rule-changes or invoking of obscure rules. Other clubs have collapsed this year, and to paraphrase from the financial crisis, no club should be too big to fail.
From a a perspective of fairness, Portsmouth should be allowed to go bankrupt. No last minute deals with HM Revenue, no rule-changes or invoking of obscure rules. Other clubs have collapsed this year, and to paraphrase from the financial crisis, no club should be too big to fail.
Indeed. The Premier League will do what it can to prop them up and let them lurch towards the end of the season, at which point the Football League will have the mess to deal with and the Premier League can still proudly boast that it's never had one of its member clubs go into administration. Three cheers for them.
Simply because no Premier League club has been in this position before, hence the handwringing over the matter.
Portsmouth had the opportunity to sell in January, they didn't take full advantage of this. Yes, Kaboul and Begovic may have left but they also brought new players in – as well as extending the O'Hara loan – so you have to ask what impact was made on their massive wage bill. The current scurrying around trying to arrange deals and exploit loopholes doesn't just reflect badly on Portsmouth, it reflects badly on the Premier League and English football as a whole. One way or another, it needs to be resolved.
True. An American-style salary cap might be unworkable in Europe, but they need to come up with some sort of financial controls so that a club won't be able to get themselves too deep in the hole.
I think a good way to start would be killing Peter Ridsdale. I'm definitely up for doing that.
I don't know if that'll make any difference but it's got to be worth a try, right?
I'll go find my silver bullets. I know they're around here somewhere...anyone have some garlic and a wooden stake handy?
Sky Sports News are now reporting that the Premier League have rejected Portsmouth's request to sell players outside of the transfer window.
Good.
I hope they don't go under until the end of the season though, I've got a soft spot for West Ham for some reason.
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I hope they don't go under until the end of the season though, I've got a soft spot for West Ham for some reason.
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