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2009-10 Football Thread – The Second Half

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From a centre back? Blimey...
 
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daneoni said:
Ref has given Inter way too many decisions! Geez!

Ref won Inter the match IMHO
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Ref had a very poor game yes but I think Inter deserved it. Especially after the ridiculous red card.
 
Italia '90 all over again. :D

Credit to Mourinho, he simply sat his team in front of goal and invited the best team in the world to attack. To be fair, Barca were not at their best today - missing players and Ibra was useless.

From a neutral's perspective this game was marred by the sending off, diving from Barca and time-wasting from Inter.

Who would have predicted an Inter-Bayern final though? not me!
 
well in the end inter can't complain about the referee ... 1 goal called back and 1 penalty not given for barca

so it's bayern vs inter in the final: the team with the biggest fighting spirit vs the best tactical team

edit: which means Robben vs Sneijder playing again in Madrid .... the Real fans sure will like that ;)
 
Don't panic said:
...and they didn't "take the goal back". the whistle went off before.
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I didn't see it, but most people commenting on it seem to think it was probably a bad call.

Still, apart from that the ref seems to have done a good job maintaining control of the game. I don't think you can say that the handball was the deciding factor in the game.
 
Don't panic said:
is this sarcastic?

i think the refereeing was fair. decision tended to go quite often in the direction of the home team, but that is normal.
and they didn't "take the goal back". the whistle went off before.
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He gave goal kicks instead of corners, cheap non-foul free kicks, and throw-ins to Inter when it should've been the other way round in one or two occasions.

Lord Blackadder said:
I didn't see it, but most people commenting on it seem to think it was probably a bad call.

Still, apart from that the ref seems to have done a good job maintaining control of the game. I don't think you can say that the handball was the deciding factor in the game.
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If he doesn't blow Barca are in the final.

Overall though, and i hate to admit it, Inter edged it over the two legs and deserved to go through. As for the play acting/ref manipulation both teams were absolutely guilty...one of them just put in a better performance to get the sending off.
 
Mourinho is a f*****g bus driver not a football manager.

Barça were crap tonight. All match I was screaming put one through the centre. 86th minute, first ball through centre they score. :rolleyes:

Inter were piss poor!

The disallowed goal was very harsh (through the centre too) :rolleyes: The ball hit him from about 2 yards. Ref was crap too.

Busquets is an embarrassment for his 'antics'. Although I know what Motta is like (former Barça player) and he will of meant to stick his hand in his face. And what he did next kind of backs that up. :rolleyes:
 
Lord Blackadder said:
I didn't see it, but most people commenting on it seem to think it was probably a bad call.

Still, apart from that the ref seems to have done a good job maintaining control of the game. I don't think you can say that the handball was the deciding factor in the game.
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I agree that the ref did a fairly good job. maybe he could have been a bit more decisive on the diving, especially given that red card, but a little of homerism in general, especially at camp nou, is to be expected.

as far as the handball, my point was not whether it was or not (i think it was, but a very close call), but that it was called before the shot, so it wasn't a "disallowed goal". the play had already stopped.

MacBoobsPro said:
Mourinho is a f*****g bus driver not a football manager.

Barça were crap tonight. All match I was screaming put one through the centre. 86th minute, first ball through centre they score. :rolleyes:

Inter were piss poor!

The disallowed goal was very harsh (through the centre too) :rolleyes: The ball hit him from about 2 yards. Ref was crap too.

Busquets is an embarrassment for his 'antics'. Although I know what Motta is like (former Barça player) and he will of meant to stick his hand in his face. And what he did next kind of backs that up. :rolleyes:
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his team played most of the match one man down on the pitch of the best team in the world. i think he did a damn good job, especially tactically.
 
MacBoobsPro said:
Mourinho is a f*****g bus driver not a football manager.
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Mourinho is the bees' knees, I understand that you're upset and I dislike the man too but do give credit where credit is due. Tactically I've haven't seen a masterclass like that since perhaps Italy Euro 2000 vs Holland (and Italy unlike Inter were very lucky that day). I mean the man had the b*lls to not field a substitution for the whole first half after the red card..

I think this proves that it really does take something special to win the champions league consecutively and for all their magic it seems Barca weren't special enough. Makes you think just how good a team has to be to do it.

P.S. To all those England faithfuls guess who Capello had predicted would win the champions league this year, yep. When asked why he replied "they have everything you need to win it, esp. the manager". Just one more reason why I think England will pull it off this time.
 
MacBoobsPro said:
The disallowed goal was very harsh (through the centre too) :rolleyes: The ball hit him from about 2 yards. Ref was crap too.

Busquets is an embarrassment for his 'antics'. Although I know what Motta is like (former Barça player) and he will of meant to stick his hand in his face. And what he did next kind of backs that up. :rolleyes:
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I'd be furious if I was a Barca fan - mostly because being beaten by a park-the-bus tactic just sucks. Unfortunately the results from the first leg completely favored the negative approach from Inter, at team who are clearly experts at smothering the game.

Busquets looks like a fool, but as you said nobody can really sympathize with Motta, he behaved like an idiot and is very lucky his team weren't beaten because of his foolishness. He'll miss the final for his trouble anyway.

Don't panic said:
...as far as the handball, my point was not whether it was or not (i think it was, but a very close call), but that it was called before the shot, so it wasn't a "disallowed goal". the play had already stopped.
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Right. But the play stopped because of the call, so the two events are directly related. It's one of those tough calls that's probably going to be disputed either way.
 
Lord Blackadder said:
I'd be furious if I was a Barca fan - mostly because being beaten by a park-the-bus tactic just sucks.
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This is why I cannot stand Mourinho. He is so scared of Barça he tries any tactic possible (fair or not) to get an advantage. Just think back to the Chelsea matches with Barça when they left the pitch in disrepair and all the anti football tactics back then. This time they didnt water the pitch in Italy either.

It's like playing tennis and winning by smashing the ball at the opposition player instead of showing your skill to win. :mad:

Also remember the disadvantage Barça had spending 15 hours on a coach to get to the away match. Something I havent mentioned till now. All these things add up.

LAME!
 
I disagree, Inter scored 3 goals at home and that had nothing to do with Anti-Football. And this last game was away, how were you expecting them to play? Furthermore they had a man sent off, but you say they still should have played nice flowing open football? How about critcizing Barcelona shortfalls. Mourinho showed today that there's more to football than crazy skilled players, that a well planned out tactic and team spirit can over come anything and I absolutely welcome that. Inter were absolutely beautiful today and if that's Antifootball then I say give me more.
 
I think Mourinho was always going to park the bus in Barcelona. But, to be fair, once he was down to 10 men it would have been foolish to do anything besides park it and sit on that aggreate lead. They counterattacked successfully at the San Siro, so they did the job in the first leg.

On the flip side, Barca looked tired over the last two legs. They've been pushing all season, playing at a high tempo and they are a highly technical tap-tap-tap side. Ibrahimovic failed to do his job too, I wonder if this will cause peoples' patience to finally run out with him. Puyol and Iniesta were missed.
 
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An excellent defensive display does not equal 'park the bus' tactics. Whilst it might not be the prettiest to watch it takes just as much skill to pull off correctly as the free flowing attacking football that Barcelona failed to produce this evening.
 
Lord Blackadder said:
I think Mourinho was always going to park the bus in Barcelona. But, to be fair, once he was down to 10 men it would have been foolish to do anything besides park it and sit on that aggreate lead. They counterattacked successfully at the San Siro, so they did the job in the first leg.

On the flip side, Barca looked tired over the last two legs. They've been pushing all season, playing at a high tempo and they are a highly technical tap-tap-tap side. Ibrahimovic failed to do his job too, I wonder if this will cause peoples' patience to finally run out with him. Puyol and Iniesta were missed.
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i think this is the main reason. he is fantastic.

i am not sure mourinho would have just sat back. i've seen a few inter games this year, and he has frequently thrown in 4-5 forwards when needed. i think they were going to soak up the initial pressure and then readjust, but the red card changed the game plan.
at that point sitting back was the only thing to do. (see the arsenal game for reference of an alternative approach at camp nou).

anyways i really enjoyed the drama of today's game. i can see barca fans being upset, but overall (i know i am in the minority here) i think inter deserved the final.
 
capoeirista said:
An excellent defensive display does not equal 'park the bus' tactics. Whilst it might not be the prettiest to watch it takes just as much skill to pull off correctly as the free flowing attacking football that Barcelona failed to produce this evening.
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I agree with everything apart from the first sentence. It takes a lot of skill to do what Inter did, and it's brutally effective against teams that like to possess the ball like Barca. Few, if any, other teams could smother Barca that effectively. But I'm still calling it parking the bus. ;)
 
Mourinho was very efficient, and huge credit to him - he did exactly what he needed to do. I wanted Barca to win, because they play the game the right way, and they are a lot more fun to watch, but there was a sense of inevitability about it from the early stages. Having a man sent off almost worked in Inter's favour, they just sat back even further, with all 10 behind the ball. I thought the reffing was a bit of a joke, he allowed far too much Inter time wasting and play acting (all part of Jose's plan) and disallowed a legitimate goal - his hand was infront of his body, he didn't move it to hit the ball, if that isn't ball to hand I don't know what is.

So yeah - Mourinho did very well, like I said, but it made for a crap game of football, and hence I would've preferred Barca. In the second half I swear there was more messing around time wasting and feigning injury from Inter than there was football.

Oh and re: red card. Horrible play acting.. shouldn't happen, but he is a silly boy putting his hand up in the face area - the rules are pretty clear about that. It won't be rescinded.
 
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