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Hate those safety cars. Deployed way too often. Reminds me of American racing where it's done more to artificially make the racing look close rather than for any safety concerns.
 
Hate those safety cars. Deployed way too often. Reminds me of American racing where it's done more to artificially make the racing look close rather than for any safety concerns.

It's the result of a very tight street circuit with no runoffs. If Monaco did not have the history and was a new track they'd never be allowed to race there.
 
Barrichello should probably be penalised for throwing his steering wheel into the race track like that.

Yeah, Hamilton might not be happy about it...

Hate those safety cars. Deployed way too often. Reminds me of American racing where it's done more to artificially make the racing look close rather than for any safety concerns.

You're right. The marshalls should have to clear debris with cars running at full speed. Or maybe leave damaged cars on the circuit...
:rolleyes:
 
It's the result of a very tight street circuit with no runoffs. If Monaco did not have the history and was a new track they'd never be allowed to race there.

I'm just whinging about it in general.

What are the odds that both Hamilton and Vettel will finish without any mechanical problems?
 
Oops!

I bet Webber would enjoy finishing under a safety car. Nice and relaxed...
 
Webbo was in a class of his own today. He pulled out gaps at will. Great job.

Might have been interesting if Alonso had started near the front. Guess there's always next week. Gotta check to see how Bruno finished.

edit: ok Bruno last/17th. Still look for him in the future. A bit more experience and a better team and who knows. Just nice to see a Senna in F1
 
Nice move from Schumi, but intense research through their iPad and Google might do him in!

Nice drive from Webber, but ominous for the season.

EDIT: Just seen the Ross Brawn interview - well played, old man!
 
edit: ok Bruno last/17th. Still look for him in the future. A bit more experience and a better team and who knows. Just nice to see a Senna in F1

The name isn't enough. I can't see him being in F1 passed this season.

EDIT: Just seen the Ross Brawn interview - well played, old man!

I can't believe it, but I'm backing Schumi!!
:eek:
 
but intense research through their iPad and Google might do him in!

Seemed legit to me, as Brawn said, the Safety Car came in before the Start/Finish line (the race therefore didn't finish under a Safety Car), there were Green Flags, and Schumacher didn't pass until after the S/C Line.

But then again... Damon Hill is one of the stewards. :rolleyes:
 
Seemed legit to me, as Brawn said, the Safety Car came in before the Start/Finish line (the race therefore didn't finish under a Safety Car), there were Green Flags, and Schumacher didn't pass until after the S/C Line.

But then again... Damon Hill is one of the stewards. :rolleyes:

hehe I think most of us are in a bit of shock that we want/ believe Schumi will be ok. The conflicting info (albeit Ferrari might just have missed the boat) might make it more difficult for the stewards, and that rule that Jake highlighted (and I posted on) was highlighted before Ross Brawn spoke to the beeb. I don't think Damon Hill will actually have much input into this, as it's more of an interpretation of the rules and situation than a racing incident. My gut feeling is that Ross Brawn has got it spor on.
 
Barrichello should probably be penalised for throwing his steering wheel into the race track like that.

very likely will since in the replay you can clearly see how the next car (chandrok) actually drives over it.. could have been really dangerous


and you can also bet on barrichello getting another penalty in his team.. after all such a carbon steering wheel full of electronics costs up to 100.000 dollars
 
Schumacher handed 20-second penalty

Unbelievable. Quite possibly the worst decision in F1 since Japan 1990.

It appears FIA Regulation 40.13 was in effect, which states "If the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pit lane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking."

So even though the green light and green flags were being displayed, no passing was allowed since it was the final lap and all cars needed to cross the Start / Finish line in the order they were behind the Safety Car when it pulled off into the pit lane.

So Michael should not have passed, regardless of what the track lights and flags were saying.

That being said, adding 20 seconds is harsh. Why not just restore him and Alonso to their Safety Car positions?


In other news, SPEED's Pit Reporter - Wil Buxton - reported that he saw Webber's "managers" and Christian Horner "all smiles and high-fives" after a meeting on Friday which he believes means they just signed an extension to keep Webber at RBR.
 
Bloody awful. So what if he'd crashed? Would they all have had to wait behind him?
No, because crashing means you're out of the race. Schumi actually went off into the gravel once behind the safety car. Don't remember what race, but it was one of the final ones of 2006. In any case safety car or not, the field does not stop on track, and continues around any disabled cars.
 
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That being said, adding 20 seconds is harsh. Why not just restore him and Alonso to their Safety Car positions?...
That's not an atypical penalty. If he had passed under yellow during the race it would have likely been a drive-thru penalty, costing about 20 secs., give or take.
 
It appears FIA Regulation 40.13 was in effect, which states "If the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pit lane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking."

So even though the green light and green flags were being displayed, no passing was allowed since it was the final lap and all cars needed to cross the Start / Finish line in the order they were behind the Safety Car when it pulled off into the pit lane.

So Michael should not have passed, regardless of what the track lights and flags were saying.

That being said, adding 20 seconds is harsh. Why not just restore him and Alonso to their Safety Car positions?


In other news, SPEED's Pit Reporter - Wil Buxton - reported that he saw Webber's "managers" and Christian Horner "all smiles and high-fives" after a meeting on Friday which he believes means they just signed an extension to keep Webber at RBR.

What Mercedes will appeal is that the race didn't end with the safety car in front. Where the rule is unclear is that the safety car was to be brought in at the end of the lap (meaning it didn't end under a safety car) as opposed to a specific order was sent out saying the race was ending under a safety car. I would advocate a rule change to prevent this 200yd dash to the finish in the future, but similarly not punish Schumi.
 
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