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2011-2012 College Football Thread

Tomorrow said:
Then start explaining why you want an expanded playoff instead of simply saying you want one; then I'll ask you why you think two teams isn't enough.

A few years back the Giants won the Super Bowl over the Patriots. The Giants went 10-6 during the regular season; the Patriots went 16-0. Does anybody REALLY think that the Giants had a better season? Be honest; looking at the entire body of work, is there anyone who sincerely believes that the Giants got robbed six times, and the Patriots had a weak schedule, and that their loss in the Super Bowl was anything other than a single bad game?

I prefer to judge a team's season based on an entire season, not on a postseason. Adding more teams to the postseason increases the possibility that a 9-3 team faces an 11-1 team for the championship, when the team that went 12-0 in the regular season loses a single playoff game with no championship to show for it. That, to me, is not a Good Thing.
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The problem with your example is the NFL teams tend to play each other more and less cross over.

Take Big 12 vs SEC. The ONLY time those two confesses ever have any hope of playing each other is in bowl games.
It more a play off is need say from the current BCS games. Have the teams that make play off have to make it into one of the BCS games. It would be a much more balance play off system. Right now it all the guess work and a lot of argument over who is the number 1 and 2 with no real play off.
 
Mr Kram said:
really, a plus one would have been satisfactory in all the years of the BCS.
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Yeah, this would be better than nothing. I don't see the BCS or bowl system going away any time soon, so this would be about the best we can get.

In other news, it looks like Mike Leach is going to be the new coach at Washington State. I wonder if that WSU flag that shows up at every ESPN Gameday location will be replaced with a pirate flag now. :)
 
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I'm impressed that wazzu is making that commitment. If that's the case, I don't know why the even messed around with the wulff experiment.

edit: i'm now realizing that this is being funded by the new pac 12 tv deal with espn and fox.
 
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MacDawg said:
Ok, if the rankings are soooo bad and screwed up, let's take a look at them:

1. LSU
2. Alabama
3. Oklahoma State
4. Stanford
5. Virginia Tech
6. Houston
7. Boise State
8. Arkansas
9. Oregon
10. Oklahoma

Who would you change and why?
Looks about right to me
Of course you can argue a place or two, but are they really that much off?
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The problem with the BCS (over a playoff) isn't that it's terrible at picking a Top 10, but that it is bad at determining who belongs where within that ten. LSU is clearly the best team, but after that..?

Alabama passes the eyeball test, but their body of work isn't more impressive than OK State's or even Stanford's. Neither VT nor Boise have played very good schedules, but their only losses are to ranked teams. Houston hasn't played many good teams, but they've destroyed almost everyone they've faced (especially the last two months).

Without the benefit of a true playoff, of at least four teams (or even better, eight), it's impossible to say who the best team is most years. Does Alabama deserve to play for the "championship" more than OSU, Stanford, VT, UH or Boise?

Maybe they do...or maybe not. They already had their chance at LSU and blew it, didn't they? Shouldn't they have to earn their way to a championship on the field by beating other teams with reasonable resumes? Wouldn't that be grand?
 
Found this a litle funny/sad...four days until the Big Ten championship game between Wisconsin/Michigan State in Indianapolis and there were 9,000 tickets available on StubHub today for as little as $6 (just checked and it looks like the cheapest ticket is $15)

Kinda surprising actually since both teams have fans that travel well
 
IgnatiusTheKing said:
They already had their chance at LSU and blew it, didn't they? Shouldn't they have to earn their way to a championship on the field by beating other teams with reasonable resumes? Wouldn't that be grand?
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I am not particularly a fan of the rematch either, but...
Bama lost to the best team in the country in overtime after arguably outplaying them most of the game
Ok State lost to a crappy team
Who blew what?

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SGMD1 said:
Found this a litle funny/sad...four days until the Big Ten championship game between Wisconsin/Michigan State in Indianapolis and there were 9,000 tickets available on StubHub today for as little as $6 (just checked and it looks like the cheapest ticket is $15)

Kinda surprising actually since both teams have fans that travel well
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Are those game ticket prices or prices to get into the "event"
I know the SEC has an event that has tickets as well, totally separate from the game
 
MacDawg said:
I am not particularly a fan of the rematch either, but...
Bama lost to the best team in the country in overtime after arguably outplaying them most of the game
Ok State lost to a crappy team
Who blew what?
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okie lite played a tougher schedule, but has a "worse" loss. what is more meaningful?
 
MacDawg said:
I am not particularly a fan of the rematch either, but...
Bama lost to the best team in the country in overtime after arguably outplaying them most of the game
Ok State lost to a crappy team
Who blew what?
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That's my point exactly. After LSU, many teams have an argument. Alabama looks like the second best team, but we already know they're not as good as LSU. Okie State's, Boise's and Stanford's losses we much worse, but that doesn't necessarily mean one of those three couldn't beat Alabama (as much as we'd like to think it does).

The uncertainty that the BCS is picking the appropriate two teams, without anything being decided on the field, is the biggest problem with the "two team playoff" system we currently have.


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Here's more on the Big 10 Championship. It seems that they are trying to hire people to fill the empty seats. If true, what a fiasco...

It appears the Big Ten is even willing to pay "fans" to come watch its title game.

At least according to this Craig's List ad:

"Saturday night event in downtown Indianapolis needs seat-fillers. Total number of seat-fillers needed will vary based on crowd. Must tolerate loud noise and crowds. Must have red or dark green casual clothing to wear. Event will last all evening on Saturday night. All ages, sexes, races, etc. Please use contact e-mail. Event planner will follow-up with exact details on location for staging of seat-fillers (additional information and instruction provided there)."


What's the pay?

$75.

Yep, nearly $25 an hour to watch a team win a championship.
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Also, there's a lot of smoke on the Internet that my dream is coming true today, but I wouldn't be a bit surprised if there's an announcement that Sherman will get another year (at least).

Big day!
 
IgnatiusTheKing said:
Here's more on the Big 10 Championship. It seems that they are trying to hire people to fill the empty seats. If true, what a fiasco...




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Also, there's a lot of smoke on the Internet that my dream is coming true today, but I wouldn't be a bit surprised if there's an announcement that Sherman will get another year (at least).

Big day!
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And B10 fans wonder why SEC fans make fun of their conference. The Craigslist ad has been removed, so it was probably fake. Still, the fact that tickets are going for as little as $9 on StubHub is sad. Tickets for Bama-LSU (pt. 1) went for thousands on StubHub, and it was only a regular season game. Of course, the B10 can't be as pathetic as the ACC championship game. ESPN has had to do some really creative camera work the past few years to hide just how empty the stadium was.

I have also seen rumors of Mike Sherman getting fired, but I don't put much stock in them. Much like the Dan Mullen rumors, I'll believe it when I see it.
 
MacDawg said:
Bama lost to the best team in the country at home in overtime after arguably outplaying them most of the game
Ok State lost to a crappy team on the road, in double overtime, hours after two of their basketball coaches died in a plane crash.
Who blew what
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As long as we're analyzing who lost to whom and how badly, let's look at the entire picture.
 
steve2112 said:
And B10 fans wonder why SEC fans make fun of their conference. The Craigslist ad has been removed, so it was probably fake. Still, the fact that tickets are going for as little as $9 on StubHub is sad. Tickets for Bama-LSU (pt. 1) went for thousands on StubHub, and it was only a regular season game. Of course, the B10 can't be as pathetic as the ACC championship game. ESPN has had to do some really creative camera work the past few years to hide just how empty the stadium was.

I have also seen rumors of Mike Sherman getting fired, but I don't put much stock in them. Much like the Dan Mullen rumors, I'll believe it when I see it.
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I think it has something to do with southerners with 4 teeth and no professional football team having nothing better to do :p

Seriously though this is total horse ****. Camp randall stadium is filled to capacity every saturday and badger fans travel well, filling the rose bowl every time they appear. Save me your ******** sec bias :p
 
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IgnatiusTheKing said:
It seems that they are trying to hire people to fill the empty seats. If true, what a fiasco...
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steve2112 said:
And B10 fans wonder why SEC fans make fun of their conference. The Craigslist ad has been removed, so it was probably fake.
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Saw this yesterday...proven fake.

As for the supposed lack of ticket sales, Lucas Oil Stadium has a capacity of 63,000. All seats to the B10 Championship sold out in July (obviously many to ticket brokers) and many people wait until the last week to buy tickets until they know which teams are playing.

StubHub released ~9000 on Monday and as of right now there are ~3000 tickets left. ~3000 out of 63,000. And at the rate they've sold since Monday, I'd bet that most of the remaining ~3000 will be gone by Saturday.

This is a non-story.
 
Sherman out at A&M

Fresh start for the Aggies in the SEC

Mike Sherman was fired as Texas A&M's coach Thursday after the Aggies finished the regular season a disappointing 6-6.

Athletic director Bill Byrne announced the move in a statement.

Sherman went 25-25 in his four seasons. He was hired at the end of the 2007 season three days after Dennis Franchione resigned.

His best and only winning season came last year when the Aggies won their last six regular-season games and lost in the Cotton Bowl to finish 9-4
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Believe it or not, I actually have mixed emotions. I am very glad that we cut bait and got rid of a guy who just wasn't a winner, but I'm sad that it happened the way it did. Mike Sherman is a good man and a good coach, but he simply wasn't the guy to get it done on the sidelines at Texas A&M. I take no glee in the man getting fired, but I'm happy as hell that we're going into the SEC heading in a new direction.

Now...fire Bill Byrne (d-bag athletic director) and get a new one ASAP—UK's AD made a mysterious trip to College Station today with the volleyball team—then go hire the best coach out there: Kevin Sumlin.
 
A couple of bits from the coaching rumor mill...

Chris Petersen turned down $4M/year (plus $3M/year for assistants) offer from UCLA. Looks like he'll probably be at Boise again next year, as I can't imagine a more attractive offer than that coming along.

Petersen, who has a 71-6 record at Boise State, decided to remain at Boise State because of lifestyle reasons. He has turned down other universities in the past, including a $3-million offer from Stanford last year, for the same reasons.
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Arizona St. abandons talk with Kevin Sumlin for their coaching job.

ASU President Michael Crow, Vice President for Athletics Lisa Love and COO Steve Patterson scheduled their visit prior to Texas A&M's announcement Thursday evening that it had fired Mike Sherman.

When it became clear Friday that Sumlin was very likely to take the Texas A&M job based on information they became privy to, ASU decided the trip would be a mistake, a source said.
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:D
 
IgnatiusTheKing said:
Chris Petersen turned down $4M/year (plus $3M/year for assistants) offer from UCLA. Looks like he'll probably be at Boise again next year, as I can't imagine a more attractive offer than that coming along.
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I didn't think UCLA had it in them to offer that kind of scratch for a coach, and for Petersen to turn it town, that's gotta be a sizable bruise to their ego. Ouch!

Hope you guys get Sumlin - that'll be a good hire, and I'm sure there'll be a huge amount of excitement in Aggieland come next season.
 
UCLA always the money. they just didn't want to get it from the boosters. petersen to me is still a crap shoot. if you're going to spend that money, get a big name with someone who's coached in the NFL or the big conferences. either that or grab on of the guys within the conference like sark.
 
Dawgs are having a great year, but are still a year away, LSU is a mature team today.

The biggest differences are in special teams (esp. kick coverage), the ability to avoid mistakes and to make the other team pay for theirs.

Too much pressure on Murray prevents the passing game from making a difference.

Running game has been too inconsistent.
Defense will be on the field too long.
Key mistakes will hurt.

LSU gets up early, and pulls away in the second half. LSU 42 Dawgs 14.

I hope I am wrong.
 
MacDawg said:
Dawgs are having a great year, but are still a year away, LSU is a mature team today.

The biggest differences are in special teams (esp. kick coverage), the ability to avoid mistakes and to make the other team pay for theirs.

Too much pressure on Murray prevents the passing game from making a difference.

Running game has been too inconsistent.
Defense will be on the field too long.
Key mistakes will hurt.

LSU gets up early, and pulls away in the second half. LSU 42 Dawgs 14. I hope I am wrong.
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anything can happen.. but i think LSU wins this one easy.
 
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