2011-2012 College Football Thread

[einmusiker]

montee ball should win cuz im a homer

but seriously, what does montee ball do???? "montee ball scores touchdowns!"

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Lets face it a LSU vs Alabama game would be crap and the ratings would be beyond crap for a NC BCS game.

I won't be watching. And the fact that Boise is still ranked #7 after losing to a crap, nobody, division 3 JV team makes BCS rankings absolutely worthless IMO. (no offense evilgeek)

 

[CorvusCamenarum]

From Brad Edwards of ESPN's Twitter:

Sagarin has Bama at 2. Rumor is Wolfe does, too. If true, OKST would need almost 40% of 2nd-place votes rather than 25%

Lets face it a LSU vs Alabama game would be crap and the ratings would be beyond crap for a NC BCS game.

Considering the regular season game was the most watched college football game in 20+ years, I'm not sure how you arrive at that conclusion.

 

[Abyssgh0st]

I concur with CC. I think this game would have massive ratings. If the regular season game was the game of the century, this would be the game of the millennium.

 

[IgnatiusTheKing]

Heisman Badger - Some game changing plays, but suspended for drugs and inconsistent in middle of season

The argument for him is the same as the argument for Charles Woodson back in '97. He makes game-changing plays on the best team in the nation. Just looking at the last two weeks: would LSU have beaten Arkansas and UGA without him? Maybe, but it certainly can't be overstated that the Tigers were utterly lifeless before he made the plays that completely changed the direction of both those games.

As for the fake pot thing...who cares? The rule he violated (and there's some question as to whether or not he actually violated any rule at all) was silly. Would you feel the same way if a 20 year old player had gotten caught with one beer in his dorm room?

Case Keenum - Stats inflated by competition (or lack thereof)

True but the numbers alone get him an invite (though certainly not a victory). Numbers are why RG3 will be invited (and might even win), as well.

RGIII is probably the most valuable player to his team

I think RG3 is a phenomenal football player and did a lot of great things this year, but he disappeared in the first half against OSU and the second half against A&M, giving his team no shot to win either of those games (despite some gaudy numbers in the other halves). That alone should preclude him from winning the Heisman.

What's more, when he was injured against Texas Tech, Baylor's offense didn't miss a beat. In a half plus five minutes or so, RG3 was 7-11 for 106 yards and 1 TD, and ran for 62 yards and 2 TDs. Great numbers. In about 25 clock minutes, Nick Florence was 9-12 for 151 yards and 2 TDs and ran for 14 yards and 1 TD. Equal/better numbers?

that Boise is still ranked #7 after losing to a crap, nobody, division 3 JV team makes BCS rankings absolutely worthless IMO. (no offense evilgeek)

You mean the team that beat the mighty Badgers in the Rose Bowl last year?

 

[cuestakid]

latest AP


1 LSU (60) 13-0 1500
2 Alabama 11-1 1418
3 Oklahoma State 11-1 1400
4 Stanford 11-1 1283
5 USC 10-2 1179
6 Oregon 11-2 1170
7 Arkansas 10-2 1148
8 Boise State 11-1 1107
9 Wisconsin 11-2 1038
10 South Carolina 10-2 946
11 Kansas State 10-2 829
12 Michigan State 10-3 733
13 Michigan 10-2 707
14 Clemson 10-3 663
15 Baylor 9-3 656
16 TCU 10-2 632
17 Virginia Tech 11-2 591
18 Georgia 10-3 566
19 Oklahoma 9-3 386
20 Houston 12-1 370
21 Nebraska 9-3 363
22 Southern Miss 11-2 336
23 West Virginia 9-3 199
24 Penn State 9-3 129
25 Florida State 8-4 49

 

[Mr Kram]

I wonder if Southern Miss is going to get calls from other CUSA members saying something like "Thanks for costing us $12 million, jerks!".

Edit: Huh, I thought the OU-OSU game would be lighting up the scoreboard, but it turns out the Big 10 decided to make defense optional.

I thought it was $17 mil.

TCU is the Mountain West champion, Boise is not. By rule, Boise cannot get the at-large bid over TCU, and since TCU will be the highest-ranked non-AQ conference champion and will (likely) be ranked inside the top 16, they will get the at-large bid.

I don't think OSU has done enough to earn a spot into the "championship" (although it's going to be very close), so I think the BCS bowls will end up like...

• BCS Championship Game: LSU (SEC champ) vs Alabama (at large)
• Rose Bowl: Wisconsin (Big 10 champ) vs Oregon (Pac-12 champ)
• Fiesta Bowl: Oklahoma St (Big 12 champ) vs Stanford (at large)
• Sugar Bowl: Michigan (at large) vs TCU (at large)
• Orange Bowl: Clemson (ACC champ) vs. West Virginia (Big East champ)

It's possible that Kansas State could take either Stanford or Michigan's spot, with the former being more likely because Stanford doesn't draw as well as K-State or Michigan do.

Stanford is a lock at #4.

latest AP


1 LSU (60) 13-0 1500
2 Alabama 11-1 1418
3 Oklahoma State 11-1 1400
4 Stanford 11-1 1283
5 USC 10-2 1179
6 Oregon 11-2 1170
7 Arkansas 10-2 1148
8 Boise State 11-1 1107
9 Wisconsin 11-2 1038
10 South Carolina 10-2 946
11 Kansas State 10-2 829
12 Michigan State 10-3 733
13 Michigan 10-2 707
14 Clemson 10-3 663
15 Baylor 9-3 656
16 TCU 10-2 632
17 Virginia Tech 11-2 591
18 Georgia 10-3 566
19 Oklahoma 9-3 386
20 Houston 12-1 370
21 Nebraska 9-3 363
22 Southern Miss 11-2 336
23 West Virginia 9-3 199
24 Penn State 9-3 129
25 Florida State 8-4 49

Trojans back in the top 5. Woot!

 

[IgnatiusTheKing]

Stanford is a lock at #4.

No they aren't, but they're close (see below)

However, there is a remote chance that Stanford could get knocked out of the BCS. As the No. 4 team in the BCS standings, the Cardinal would be guaranteed a berth in all scenarios except one — the one that could become reality Sunday.

If Oklahoma State jumps Alabama, then the Crimson Tide would fall into the No. 3 spot and receive BCS protection as an at-large team.

In that case, Stanford would not be guaranteed a berth, and the Fiesta, under the letter of the BCS law, could invite someone else (best bet: Michigan). But would it? It seems highly unlikely that the Fiesta would pass on the No. 4 team in order to take a team ranked 8-10 spots lower. Never in the 13-year history of the BCS has the No. 4 team been left out.

 

[einmusiker]

You mean the team that beat the mighty Badgers in the Rose Bowl last year?

YES :shuffles off pouting:

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latest AP


1 LSU (60) 13-0 1500
2 Alabama 11-1 1418
3 Oklahoma State 11-1 1400
4 Stanford 11-1 1283
5 USC 10-2 1179
6 Oregon 11-2 1170
7 Arkansas 10-2 1148
8 Boise State 11-1 1107
9 Wisconsin 11-2 1038
10 South Carolina 10-2 946
11 Kansas State 10-2 829
12 Michigan State 10-3 733
13 Michigan 10-2 707
14 Clemson 10-3 663
15 Baylor 9-3 656
16 TCU 10-2 632
17 Virginia Tech 11-2 591
18 Georgia 10-3 566
19 Oklahoma 9-3 386
20 Houston 12-1 370
21 Nebraska 9-3 363
22 Southern Miss 11-2 336
23 West Virginia 9-3 199
24 Penn State 9-3 129
25 Florida State 8-4 49

inFURiating

 

[CorvusCamenarum]

Edit: Jerry Palm over at CBS Sports is calling it, citing "sources":

BCS NC: LSU-Alabama
Orange: Clemson-WV
Sugar: Michigan-Kansas St.
Fiesta: OSU-Stanford
Rose: Wisconsin-Oregon

 

[ZGXtreme]

From Brad Edwards of ESPN's Twitter:




Considering the regular season game was the most watched college football game in 20+ years, I'm not sure how you arrive at that conclusion.

Dear ESP(SEC)N,

Regarding the much hyped "Game of the Century," fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice with the Redux, shame on us.

Hopefully the other networks work some special events up to offer an alternative to watching the MNC Game. Would hate for the sequal to be any more dull than the first and lull me to sleep to early.

Sincerely,

CFB Fans (outside of Louisiana and Alabama)*

*P.S.: Yes, there is football outside the SEC which you've hyped to the point of dubbing it the NFL(AAA) League.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

I concur with CC. I think this game would have massive ratings. If the regular season game was the game of the century, this would be the game of the millennium.

First time yeah but it was a boring game to watch. A repeat is not going to get those ratings. Big time when you limit it only to really the sec market.

 

[CorvusCamenarum]

First time yeah but it was a boring game to watch. A repeat is not going to get those ratings. Big time when you limit it only to really the sec market.

Because no one outside the SEC or PAC-X watched last year's NC game.

 

[einmusiker]

Dear ESP(SEC)N,

Regarding the much hyped "Game of the Century," fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice with the Redux, shame on us.

Hopefully the other networks work some special events up to offer an alternative to watching the MNC Game. Would hate for the sequal to be any more dull than the first and lull me to sleep to early.

Sincerely,

CFB Fans (outside of Louisiana and Alabama)*

*P.S.: Yes, there is football outside the SEC which you've hyped to the point of dubbing it the NFL(AAA) League.

 

[cuestakid]

dear esp(sec)n,

regarding the much hyped "game of the century," fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice with the redux, shame on us.

Hopefully the other networks work some special events up to offer an alternative to watching the mnc game. Would hate for the sequal to be any more dull than the first and lull me to sleep to early.

Sincerely,

cfb fans (outside of louisiana and alabama)*

*p.s.: Yes, there is football outside the sec which you've hyped to the point of dubbing it the nfl(aaa) league.

ftw!

 

[jsolares]

Well the SEC can no longer claim they're undefeated in the BCS championship game so there's that

 

[Mr Kram]

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I'm pulling for Bama now. Split champion.

 

[MacNut]

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I'm pulling for Bama now. Split champion.

This will basically be the SEC championship game not the national championship.

 

[spencers]

Cotton bowl!! Woo pig!

 

[Apple OC]

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I'm pulling for Bama now. Split champion.

I don't think LSU can be beaten this year

 

[echeck]

**** the BCS. I'm so done with this bull ****.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Because no one outside the SEC or PAC-X watched last year's NC game.

While that may be true the largest watch groups for each team have an insane amount of over lap which is SEC. Made worse by the fact they are from the same part of the conferences.

The viewers out side the SEC really do not care about watching what will be a boring game.
Sad they are giving a repeat game. Alabama had its chance and it blew it big time with multiple miss field goals.

This year NC is going to have poor ratings.

 

[echeck]

No. 11 Virginia Tech vs #13 Michigan in the Sugar? Seriously.

**** that. **** the BCS.

 

[einmusiker]

theres a thread over on a popular sports forum titled "so whos not watching the BCS title game?" with already over 100 replies

 

[Rodimus Prime]

No. 11 Virginia Tech vs #13 Michigan in the Sugar? Seriously.

**** that. **** the BCS.

Take it no BCS game for Boise.

I think the NC game is going to be crap. I feel OSU should of been the team to try to get a shot. It Iowa loss can be put up that the teams mood was pretty hammer by the fact that the school loss two basketball coaches just hours before hand.

We have another year of great examples of why we need a play off. The BCS ok for getting the top 8 teams but not so much for getting them ordered.

 

[einmusiker]

rose bowl. always has and always will be the BIG game.