2011-2012 College Football Thread

[Mr Kram]

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I'm pulling for Bama now. Split champion.

I don't think LSU can be beaten this year

Bama fans will tell you otherwise.

 

[Abyssgh0st]

Take it no BCS game for Boise.

I think the NC game is going to be crap. I feel OSU should of been the team to try to get a shot. It Iowa loss can be put up that the teams mood was pretty hammer by the fact that the school loss two basketball coaches just hours before hand.

We have another year of great examples of why we need a play off. The BCS ok for getting the top 8 teams but not so much for getting them ordered.

So are you saying that OSU > Alabama? Or are you saying that OSU should have a shot at LSU because Alabama has already had one (and 'won,' but lost)? Because those are very different things.

 

[IgnatiusTheKing]

No. 11 Virginia Tech vs #13 Michigan in the Sugar? Seriously

The clowns that run the bowls may have finally dug their own graves with this one. They are going to be roasted alive, and I wouldn't doubt for a second if the government decides to stick their nose into it again.

So are you saying that OSU > Alabama? Or are you saying that OSU should have a shot at LSU because Alabama has already had one (and 'won,' but lost)? Because those are very different things.

I think Alabama is better, but their resume is worse. I think Oklahoma St would be destroyed by either Bama or LSU, but we'll never know. What we really need is a playoff. A real one, not Tomorrow's stupid "two team playoff".

For what it's worth, Mike Slive proposed a plus-one back in 2008 but was shot down by the idiot triumvirate of Dan Beebe, Jim Delany and the BCS dildos.

How great would it be to be able to look forward to semifinals of LSU-Stanford and Okie St-Alabama followed by a true(er) championship game?

 

[CorvusCamenarum]

So are you saying that OSU > Alabama? Or are you saying that OSU should have a shot at LSU because Alabama has already had one (and 'won,' but lost)? Because those are very different things.

He's saying that he thinks no one wants to see the rematch, and he's also saying that games dominated by two opposing top shelf defenses are "boring".

What's really interesting is that everyone wants to take pot shots at Bama for losing in OT to the only team who plays games on Saturdays who stood a fair chance of winning (IIRC the line was UA +4), yet OSU gets a pass for losing in OT to a nobody, despite being a 4-score favorite to win.

 

[Mr Kram]

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The line was 5 in some places. That's actually 8 points since Bama was at home. The line for the Arky game closed at 12. That's actually 9 on a neutral field. Bama is as head and shoulders above everyone else like some would think.

 

[MacNut]

Why don't they just seed the top 8 teams and have the four main bowls be a playoff then have a true championship game? They get to keep their precious toilet bowls and also have a real winner

 

[Tomorrow]

What we really need is a playoff. A real one, not Tomorrow's stupid "two team playoff".

Panties in a bunch, I see? Grow up. If you have something productive to say, say it - if you want to turn this thread into a third grade playground pissing match where you call me a "dum-dum" and I call you a "poo-poo head," you're going to have to do it without me, because I'm not interested.

 

[jsolares]

He's saying that he thinks no one wants to see the rematch, and he's also saying that games dominated by two opposing top shelf defenses are "boring".

What's really interesting is that everyone wants to take pot shots at Bama for losing in OT to the only team who plays games on Saturdays who stood a fair chance of winning (IIRC the line was UA +4), yet OSU gets a pass for losing in OT to a nobody, despite being a 4-score favorite to win.

So it wouldn't affect you at all if two coaches on college died in an accident? there are not professionals that one would expect to get over it and play and even then we don't expect it of them, so why should we from college kids, they are just kids after all.

Tomorrow:
I think the idea that a two team playoff make it comparable to what everyone asking for playoffs regarding the BCS is stupid, when people ask for playoffs they want 4/8/or more, not what they have now.

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Why don't they just seed the top 8 teams and have the four main bowls be a playoff then have a true championship game? They get to keep their precious toilet bowls and also have a real winner

the bowls and the BCS don't want it, no idea if the colleges actually do or not.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

So are you saying that OSU > Alabama? Or are you saying that OSU should have a shot at LSU because Alabama has already had one (and 'won,' but lost)? Because those are very different things.

No. But if you are not your conference champion you should not have the right to play for NC

He's saying that he thinks no one wants to see the rematch, and he's also saying that games dominated by two opposing top shelf defenses are "boring".

What's really interesting is that everyone wants to take pot shots at Bama for losing in OT to the only team who plays games on Saturdays who stood a fair chance of winning (IIRC the line was UA +4), yet OSU gets a pass for losing in OT to a nobody, despite being a 4-score favorite to win.

Well look at the facts. OSU loss two basketball coaches just hours before hand which killed the teams moral. There are some bloggers who were there at the time and they stated that the motivation for the team just left when they were told about the BB coaches death in a plan crash.

Also it is a rematch. Bama had its chance and loss. Some other school from another conferences should have a chance.

 

[MacNut]

No. But if you are not your conference champion you should not have the right to play for NC

I agree that if you lost your conference you should not get a shot at the championship. There are what 4 major BCS auto qualifiers? Why are they not seeded 1 through 4?

 

[Mr Kram]

I agree that if you lost your conference you should not get a shot at the championship. There are what 4 major BCS auto qualifiers? Why are they not seeded 1 through 4?

There are 6:

big 10
big 12
SEC
pac 12
acc
big east

 

[Abyssgh0st]

No. But if you are not your conference champion you should not have the right to play for NC.

Also it is a rematch. Bama had its chance and loss. Some other school from another conferences should have a chance.

1. I would generally agree with you, just not in this circumstance. The SEC (LSU and Alabama, rather) are just too good for a "loser" of their conference be out of the NC game in favor of any other team out there.

2. I really am not a fan of the SEC, but c'mon! They are the best two teams out there- face it. If you think Alabama blew it chance at LSU, you could say the same thing about the other 1 loss teams (albeit OSU's circumstances were extenuated, but they also blew it.) And please, "give someone else a chance" isn't going to work here. This is the BCS- not a kindergarten sharing lesson.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

1. I would generally agree with you, just not in this circumstance. The SEC (LSU and Alabama, rather) are just too good for a "loser" of their conference be out of the NC game in favor of any other team out there.

2. I really am not a fan of the SEC, but c'mon! They are the best two teams out there- face it. If you think Alabama blew it chance at LSU, you could say the same thing about the other 1 loss teams (albeit OSU's circumstances were extenuated, but they also blew it.) And please, "give someone else a chance" isn't going to work here. This is the BCS- not a kindergarten sharing lesson.

1. Sorry but no matter how you cut if you are not Conference champ you can not be NC. No if's and's or but's about it. Alabama should not be playing for the NC.

2. Does not matter as case 1. Alamaba has no right to play for it as they are not SEC confence champ.

This is a pretty strong case on a need for a play off.

 

[ucfgrad93]

1. Sorry but no matter how you cut if you are not Conference champ you can not be NC. No if's and's or but's about it. Alabama should not be playing for the NC.

Agreed, the BCS is a joke.

 

[Abyssgh0st]

1. Sorry but no matter how you cut if you are not Conference champ you can not be NC. No if's and's or but's about it. Alabama should not be playing for the NC.

2. Does not matter as case 1. Alamaba has no right to play for it as they are not SEC confence champ.

This is a pretty strong case on a need for a play off.

So you'd rather have a less deserving and worse team (OSU) play (and lose) because they won the Big 12 (not even an actual championship game)?

 

[echeck]

Before I go to bed and take my BCS aggression out in Infinity Blade 2, I felt I needed to say this one more time tonight..

**** the Sugar Bowl. **** the BCS.

The only BCS game I'm going to watch is the Fiesta. All the others can suck my sweaty nut sack.

Oh, and **** the Sugar Bowl. Or did I already say that?

 

[CorvusCamenarum]

This is a pretty strong case on a need for a play off.

Kindly direct your ire towards the Big 10, the Big 12, and the [then] Pac 10, since they're the ones who voted against it. The SEC is just giving them what they want.

In the meantime, don't get bitter, play better.

 

[b24pgg]

The only BCS game I'm going to watch is the Fiesta. All the others can suck my sweaty nut sack.

What do you have against the Rose Bowl?*

*says the Badger fan

 

[Rodimus Prime]

So you'd rather have a less deserving and worse team (OSU) play (and lose) because they won the Big 12 (not even an actual championship game)?

Why are they less deserving? The loss the Iowa can be explain and is acceptable.

Quite franking if Alabama wins I would ways sorry they are not NC because they failed to win their conferences.
They owned OU big time on both sides of the the ball.
There is a strong case for OSU to be ranked 2. It close due to case 1 (failing to win conference) they should not be the game.

The game between Alabama and LSU already has been done and it was a boring game at that. Alabama blew that game.

Winning conferences is a requirement to play for NC. End of story.

 

[corvaxmuzzy]

o rly

As I recall, the only conferences that voted for the play-off (when the AQ/BCS commissioners voted) were the SEC & ACC. The SEC wants a play-off more than anyone.

Any and all ire should certainly not be directed toward the SEC (or the ACC).

 

[Abyssgh0st]

Why are they less deserving? The loss the Iowa can be explain and is acceptable.

Quite franking if Alabama wins I would ways sorry they are not NC because they failed to win their conferences.
They owned OU big time on both sides of the the ball.
There is a strong case for OSU to be ranked 2. It close due to case 1 (failing to win conference) they should not be the game.

The game between Alabama and LSU already has been done and it was a boring game at that. Alabama blew that game.

Winning conferences is a requirement to play for NC. End of story.

They are less deserving because they lost to Iowa State. Regardless of their circumstances, in OT with their season on the line they lost because of a fumble (IIRC), which has nothing to do with the lives lost that day.

OU was a tired, injured, and away team that never had a chance going into the game.

If winning a conference is a "requirement" for the NC, where is it in the rulebook?

 

[IgnatiusTheKing]

Panties in a bunch, I see? Grow up. If you have something productive to say, say it - if you want to turn this thread into a third grade playground pissing match where you call me a "dum-dum" and I call you a "poo-poo head," you're going to have to do it without me, because I'm not interested.

Uh, no. Relax.

I wasn't calling you stupid, just your idea that one game equals a playoff. I included it in my post so you wouldn't have to bother telling us all how the BCS is really the greatest playoff system ever devised; we've done this already.

 

[corvaxmuzzy]

To be honest...

Am I the only one who thinks that OU gave (threw) the OSU game?

 

[Rodimus Prime]

They are less deserving because they lost to Iowa State. Regardless of their circumstances, in OT with their season on the line they lost because of a fumble (IIRC), which has nothing to do with the lives lost that day.

OU was a tired, injured, and away team that never had a chance going into the game.

If winning a conference is a "requirement" for the NC, where is it in the rulebook?

Part of the punishment is because it is OSU and not OU or UT.

If say OU only loss was to TTU this year and they won out after that you know what they would of been ranked 2. Sad but true.
And in comparing losses. Lossing to TTU this year (AT HOME) compared to OSU loss to Iowa with multiple things against them. OU still would of been ranked number 2.

It is sad if you are not one of the big name schools you pretty much get kick out for a minor miss step.

While it is not in the rule book the game between LSU and Bama is going to have pathetic ratings for at NC game.

Am I the only one who thinks that OU gave (threw) the OSU game?

No not that. OU is just VERY VERY over rated this year. If it was not for the fact they are OU I do not think they would be even in the top 20 after last nights showing. Just take a look at how badly Houston was punished for losing. OU takes some rather sad losses and they loss very little ground for each one.

 

[mscriv]

The only BCS game I'm going to watch is the Fiesta. All the others can suck my sweaty nut sack.

Oh, and **** the Sugar Bowl. Or did I already say that?

Dude, cold shower...

#1 You need to calm down some before you blow a gasket.

#2 No one likes sweaty testicles.


I'm a Vol fan and based on that usually an all out SEC fan, but I think OSU should play for the championship.

I found this article very interesting. It's a blind poll you can take to decide who you think should be the #2 ranked team in the country. Now the stats do not include this weekend's championship games.

I think the BCS and the voters want the rematch because it will draw well in terms of audience and most people are intrigued by the idea of a rematch. Look at how well the idea goes over in boxing and MMA. And, for all of those saying the OSU couldn't keep up with LSU or Alabama, we'll never know therefore our speculation is meaningless.