Incorrect info? LOL. You can blow that claim out of your ass because the first C2D CPU's that the 21.5" iMacs used were 65 watts. All Hellhammer did was make a snarky comment that added nothing to the conversation about how the current CPU's use 8 more watts than the ones Apple used before it. I was respsonding to someone who wanted the 21.5" iMacs to have the same processors as a 27" and simply provided an example that Hellhammer felt the need to "correct" because he has nothing better to do with his time. I didn't post incorrect info, I posted an example from the last refresh. So how about you get YOUR panties out of a wad and ignore the situation completely? I was already over this until you felt it was so necessary for you to drag this out any longer with your bat **** crazy claims.
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2011 iMac Predictions?
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Incorrect info? LOL. You can blow that claim out of your ass because the first C2D CPU's that the 21.5" iMacs used were 65 watts. All Hellhammer did was make a snarky comment that added nothing to the conversation about how the current CPU's use 8 more watts than the ones Apple used before it. I was respsonding to someone who wanted the 21.5" iMacs to have the same processors as a 27" and simply provided an example that Hellhammer felt the need to "correct" because he has nothing better to do with his time. I didn't post incorrect info, I posted an example from the last refresh. So how about you get YOUR panties out of a wad and ignore the situation completely? I was already over this until you felt it was so necessary for you to drag this out any longer with your bat **** crazy claims.
It's been awhile since I saw someone taking this much heat about something so minor 
I didn't know correcting people isn't allowed anymore.
You could have just ignored it or said you forgot. No need to take corrections as personal insults.
I didn't know correcting people isn't allowed anymore. You could have just ignored it or said you forgot. No need to take corrections as personal insults.
i would not care about speed , screen size , 17inch are big enough no need for more ,harddrive or ssd space , 250gb are big enough too , the only thing i care about is design , so please steve and jonathan ,please bring back friendly colors to the iMac , i am not a funeral director and dont want a grey/black thingy on my desk, you did show me in 2007 already that it is possible to have nice colors on a iPod shuffle , but still only this sad grey on iMac and mini
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Is there any reason to speculate that a Sandybridge IGP based iMac would drive prices down quite a bit for a baseline model? I sometimes get a headache trying to understand how all these new technologies come into the mix But I thought the Sandybridge's claim to fame was a fast enough IGP to run parallel performance to say a mobile stand alone or at least get close.
I was really hoping they'd introduce a mid-level size again like a 24", but I'd think if they did a size change it'd be to 22" or something like that.
But I thought the Sandybridge's claim to fame was a fast enough IGP to run parallel performance to say a mobile stand alone or at least get close.I was really hoping they'd introduce a mid-level size again like a 24", but I'd think if they did a size change it'd be to 22" or something like that.
Is there any reason to speculate that a Sandybridge IGP based iMac would drive prices down quite a bit for a baseline model? I sometimes get a headache trying to understand how all these new technologies come into the mix
I was really hoping they'd introduce a mid-level size again like a 24", but I'd think if they did a size change it'd be to 22" or something like that.
Anandtech have done a good review on the Sandy Bridge IGP performance, and it looks like a definite step up over the old version.
I think the big problem there is OpenCL support - Intel are apparently 'looking into it' but I've read around the place that there may be physical issues determined by Intel's IGP design. In that case we'd be waiting until Ivy Bridge, if ever. And I doubt Apple will overlook the OpenCL requirement for one model.
If Apple and Intel can get OpenCL support working, then it would make sense for a base 21.5" to forego a dedicated GPU altogether. It could drive the price down to near-Macbook and I imagine sell in good numbers. Then again I don't know if that's a segment of the desktop market they're interested in chasing.
All told, I'd expect all of them to sport dedicated GPUs, which would then mean any cost benefit with the Intel IGP is mostly lost and likely not affect prices.
I'm very interested in what they do with SSD's. If yields are at a decent level, I can see the MBA SSD cards replacing the current 2.5 inchers. It would provide a cost benefit for Apple, but who knows if they'd pass it on to the consumer.
It's been awhile since I saw someone taking this much heat about something so minor
You could have just ignored it or said you forgot. No need to take corrections as personal insults.
Apparently you owe his ego punitive damages.
It's been awhile since I saw someone taking this much heat about something so minor
You could have just ignored it or said you forgot. No need to take corrections as personal insults.
If you want to 'correct' someone then be my guest, but you weren't correcting anyone. You posted a pointless smug response about how the current processor uses 8 more watts when that was irrelevant to my overall point.
Yeah, my ego is so hurt from being 'corrected' for nothing.
Good thoughts reticulate.
I'll probably end up staying in the same place I'm at now - really can't justify the cost of moving to mac if the prices stay around the current levels. I'm not one of those people who think they are massively overpriced, especially the 27" models. When I'm ready to upgrade my software suites AND it's time to buy a new monitor is my gauge for switching to Mac.
Honestly, Windows7 is such a huge improvement from MS it makes staying with MS software not hurt that bad, so I'm content to wait it out
I'll probably end up staying in the same place I'm at now - really can't justify the cost of moving to mac if the prices stay around the current levels. I'm not one of those people who think they are massively overpriced, especially the 27" models. When I'm ready to upgrade my software suites AND it's time to buy a new monitor is my gauge for switching to Mac.
Honestly, Windows7 is such a huge improvement from MS it makes staying with MS software not hurt that bad, so I'm content to wait it out
.If you want to 'correct' someone then be my guest, but you weren't correcting anyone. You posted a pointless smug response about how the current processor uses 8 more watts when that was irrelevant to my overall point.
1+1 = 3 Well, it's OK as it's near enough. Precision is everything. You're the one who put the wrong voltage.
Yeah, my ego is so hurt from being 'corrected' for nothing.
Good thoughts reticulate.
I'll probably end up staying in the same place I'm at now - really can't justify the cost of moving to mac if the prices stay around the current levels. I'm not one of those people who think they are massively overpriced, especially the 27" models. When I'm ready to upgrade my software suites AND it's time to buy a new monitor is my gauge for switching to Mac.
Honestly, Windows7 is such a huge improvement from MS it makes staying with MS software not hurt that bad, so I'm content to wait it out
Yeah, nothing wrong with W7 (I end up with Boot Camp for games anyway). And it's worthwhile holding off until you feel it's necessary. Macs do have an aura of gadget-lust about them but it pays to be sensible, especially given we're counting down to an update.
The monitor, though, is fantastic. It's almost made me put down the money a couple of times. Almost. I just have to remind myself I don't really need it.
Wrong voltage? LOL. It wasn't wrong. It was the voltage for the C2D CPU Apple used last refresh and it served its purpose for my point. "It's silly to argue about this" yet here you are arguing with me.
Uhh, no. I said not be condescending and try to 'correct' things that don't need correcting. chrmjenkins felt the need to add nothing to the conversation and claim that my ego was hurt so I responded accordingly.
What I would like to see is a SSD as the boot device with the 1tb hard disk for general purpose use. Figure 256gb of SSD using the new form factor they brought out in the Airs, this would give them a lot of flexibility considering the size of the case.
Why the SSD as boot? For near instant on that Apple seems headed towards. With some fancy logic they could direct user apps to install on the regular drive with an ability to override to the SSD.
I don't realistically see any screen size larger than 27, simply because the box is too big for most people to transport. I have a Golf and it makes hauling my iMac just fine, but damn, that box is big and won't fit in most cars comfortably.
Graphics wise, I want 1gb of discreet graphics and something close to current next, I can dream.
I do not want to see touch screen.
Why the SSD as boot? For near instant on that Apple seems headed towards. With some fancy logic they could direct user apps to install on the regular drive with an ability to override to the SSD.
I don't realistically see any screen size larger than 27, simply because the box is too big for most people to transport. I have a Golf and it makes hauling my iMac just fine, but damn, that box is big and won't fit in most cars comfortably.
Graphics wise, I want 1gb of discreet graphics and something close to current next, I can dream.
I do not want to see touch screen.
To set the record straight, I felt no such need. I in fact have a small organism residing in my left ear canal originating from a planet in the vicinity of Beetleguise who instructed me to do so. Contrary to what you may believe, this in is in fact a mutually beneficial symbiotic relationship as he's made me great at cooking pizzas and competitive melon balling.
-Similar design, maybe a tad thinner in usual Apple style.
-Screen sizes will stay the same.
-Core ix across the board.
-Most models I assume would be Quad Core, it's just not viable marketing wise to do anything else even if 95% of the people who buy it would suffice on a Pentium 4.
Features I would love to see:
-Small SSD boot drive soldered on to the logic board, like the Air, just for the OS. Then with a normal hard drive for files and software.
-ATI 6xxx chip, mobile of course.
-Built in UPS, just a small 5 minute one or something. If the power doesn't come back on it just safely hibernates. I've always wondered why no one does this, great feature to market and would help a lot of people.
-Would be great to see a better specced 21.5" model. Some people would love a quad i7 and decent GPU but don't want that massive screen.
-Screen sizes will stay the same.
-Core ix across the board.
-Most models I assume would be Quad Core, it's just not viable marketing wise to do anything else even if 95% of the people who buy it would suffice on a Pentium 4.
Features I would love to see:
-Small SSD boot drive soldered on to the logic board, like the Air, just for the OS. Then with a normal hard drive for files and software.
-ATI 6xxx chip, mobile of course.
-Built in UPS, just a small 5 minute one or something. If the power doesn't come back on it just safely hibernates. I've always wondered why no one does this, great feature to market and would help a lot of people.
-Would be great to see a better specced 21.5" model. Some people would love a quad i7 and decent GPU but don't want that massive screen.
Right there with you. I was in the camp that said imacs were overpriced, etc, until I actually dug into the hardware of those monitors. That's the #1 factor that brought me to the conclusion that my next upgrade will be apple.
I used to PC game alot, but with kids I'm now playing xbox more and more just to be around the family and the kids have fun too. So my office computer is now 95% a work machine. Even that "gadget lust" tugs at me all the time lol. But it's nice to actually anticipate something. I bought my wife a mac mini for Christmas and she's really liked it. I really see how far windows has come looking at the difference between 7 and OSx. OSx used to totally blow away XP. But kudos to MS for actually delivering. I like her mac better than my PC, but it's just too slow for what I use it for. I already made the decision I would need to get an IPS panel for my next upgrade because I do lots of graphic design that ends up on paper.
You should totally get one! Price per component, they're probably the most price competitive thing apple has to offer at the moment.
I totally agree and I do too think, that an iMac touch has no advantage. But there are not always offered things that make sense. To me the iPad didn't make sense for what it was partly advertised for (watching videos sitting in the park via wifi -> who wants to look videos on that small screen, where he had just put his fingers on the moment before and doing this when you're outside).
There was this rumor, that they perhaps add a new display size and do another pricepoint for the mainstream market. (see: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1065004/)
Well, why not take the technology of the iPad, put it together with a bigger but still small enough screen (maybe 15") and hook it up on a stand and merchandise it as the first iMac touch (though having nothing to do with the iMac technically) and saying that it is a more affordable iMac plus the "advantage" of a touch screen. All those believers who like to constantly buy the latest iPhone and like the iPad and think the macbook air is worth it, will buy it.
You only have to "explain" things so, that the customer of today think, "this is it!" In other words put it in the right marketing light.
There will never be a imac touch. Steve said as much at the last keynote. They tested touch screens and they found out that it was not very comfortable. Just didn't work.Hence the creation of the track pad. And you already own a magic mouse, which is essentially part track pad and part mouse.
Like I said, touch doesn't work unless the OS is optimized for it. It would take quite a lot time to make OS X work fine via touch and even then, what's the point to do all that work for just one computer? Especially for a desktop, they don't sell that much anymore. And that's just OS X, 3rd party developers might not find it worth it to make a new version of their app for touch.
There are too many things that makes touch obsolete IMO.
As I said, they could take the iPad and hook it up, just say it was a real iMac. They could start on the OS for the iPad and make it just look more like a full OS for desktops.
My thoughts above were just imagination as an outcome of my fear for more things from apple that I do not like. I get this paranoia since there are people all the way saying "Oh, I definitely would buy an iMac touch" (not seeing how ridiculous it is to leave your fingerprints everywhere on the screen were you want to look at it while working).
I totally agree, but there are those other people that like not so useful things.
Correction.
OSX is optimized for touch input, just not via a touch screen. Magic Mouse is a touch device, as is the trackpad on the imac. Gestures, kinetic scrolling, Pinch to zoom all are capable on desktop OSX. OSX is based on touch input, just not via touch screen. There is a difference between the two input methods, but both are based on touch. And Lion will further still the touch input method via multi-touch trackpad and magic mouse.
iOS and OSX is merging, and both are touch OS's. Both based on touch input. Via different methods. Once via screen one via touch devices.
iOS is OSX optimized for touch input via a screen. So it already exists, just not on a desktop.
And the imac line are selling in record numbers. They sell just fine.
http://www.cultofmac.com/apples-imac-is-25-percent-of-desktop-growth-in-2010/34021
Laptops still outnumbered desktops by over 70%. iMacs sell fine but not enough to make it worth it to develop an iMac Touch IMO
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iTouchMac solution!!
HelmHammer said:
"I'm going to put this straight, touch does not work well with a big screen. Keeping your arms up all the time will be painful and that is not what using a computer should be. I've see the patents of incline iMac but think about the glossy screen. Now you can work okay with ceiling light on but with incline iMac, the light would cause some serious reflections. Let alone what your neck and back would say when leaning forward all the time! Then there are things like finger prints, OS and app support which makes touch even more useless."
I've got the answer - lay the iMac down, insert into a desk or coffee table so it is level, like a big iPad! With a touch screen it would be great for gaming - imagine PONG on a Retsina screen!
HelmHammer said:
"I'm going to put this straight, touch does not work well with a big screen. Keeping your arms up all the time will be painful and that is not what using a computer should be. I've see the patents of incline iMac but think about the glossy screen. Now you can work okay with ceiling light on but with incline iMac, the light would cause some serious reflections. Let alone what your neck and back would say when leaning forward all the time! Then there are things like finger prints, OS and app support which makes touch even more useless."
I've got the answer - lay the iMac down, insert into a desk or coffee table so it is level, like a big iPad! With a touch screen it would be great for gaming - imagine PONG on a Retsina screen!
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My dreams (not predictions) would be:
Trackpad as standard
3D viewing capabilities (although could be a messy complication for something which may not last)
1080p input (as with my thread)
USB 3
Slightly improved bass in speakers
Slightly lower price
Design to stay the same (its beautiful)
I recently bought an imac 27" and love it. Was hard to think of anything I have really missed from it.
The above would just be cool, realistic or not.
Trackpad as standard
3D viewing capabilities (although could be a messy complication for something which may not last)
1080p input (as with my thread)
USB 3
Slightly improved bass in speakers
Slightly lower price
Design to stay the same (its beautiful)
I recently bought an imac 27" and love it. Was hard to think of anything I have really missed from it.
The above would just be cool, realistic or not.