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2012-2013 NFL Football Thread
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The Patriots had to have done something to Bernard Pollard for him to keep going off on them every time they play...lol That flashback piece that showed him against the Patriots over the years was pretty interesting.
I call BS. That seat isn't for Brady. Manti Te'o girlfriend is already sitting there.
Wow! Brady and the Patriots shut out in the second half as the Ravens score 21 unanswered points!
Can't say that I'm sad to see the Patriots lose.
NE and ATL got shut out in the second half, if the harbaughs keep it up it'll be 13-10 or something in the superbowl
That was decidedly unfun. Brady had a terrible game, there were questionable decisions, and lots of mistakes. Add some unfortunate luck to it and you have what you saw. Pain is unfortunately part of being a fan, and only one team's fans get to be happy at the end. It takes a perfect storm of talent, opportunity, and luck to win the Super Bowl. Not our year. Good luck to those who still have a rooting interest. Moments like this I'm jealous of casual fans. Once a Patriots fan, always a Patriots fan.
And those of you who were hoping for a Harbaugh matchup got your wish. Hope you like the word "HarBowl" - you'll be hearing it a thousand times over the next two weeks.
I'll be rooting for Colin Kaepernick to pull a 2001 Tom Brady, except with much better wheels.
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Biggest haterade coming from someone whose team has been sitting home for a month. Give it a rest already. When all you can do is celebrate another team's loss, it just shows you have nothing of your own to root for (and believe me, I recognize that type of loser syndrome from being a Red Sox fan). I don't know what you get so worked up about, we haven't won in 8 years.
The truth is the standards are ridiculously high for NE, but we've been really luck as fans. Extremely lucky. We'll be back next year.
Once a Patriots fan, always a Patriots fan.And those of you who were hoping for a Harbaugh matchup got your wish. Hope you like the word "HarBowl" - you'll be hearing it a thousand times over the next two weeks.
I'll be rooting for Colin Kaepernick to pull a 2001 Tom Brady, except with much better wheels.
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Biggest haterade coming from someone whose team has been sitting home for a month. Give it a rest already. When all you can do is celebrate another team's loss, it just shows you have nothing of your own to root for (and believe me, I recognize that type of loser syndrome from being a Red Sox fan).
I don't know what you get so worked up about, we haven't won in 8 years. The truth is the standards are ridiculously high for NE, but we've been really luck as fans. Extremely lucky. We'll be back next year.
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And that was still between the Harbaughs. I think the brothers are the only brother coaches in the nfl right now.
As long as you have your coach, NE will be a threat in the NFL and that could be the next 15 years. I think he's the only one in the NFL who could pull together a 20 year dynasty of making into postseason like a Landry led Dallas.
DAL 1965 7 7 0 .500 2nd in NFL East - - - -
DAL 1966 10 3 1 .769 1st in NFL East 0 1 .000 Lost to the Green Bay Packers in NFL Championship Game
DAL 1967 9 5 0 .643 1st in NFL Capital 1 1 .500 Lost to the Green Bay Packers in NFL Championship Game
DAL 1968 12 2 0 .857 1st in NFL Capital 0 1 .000 Lost to the Cleveland Browns in Divisional Round
DAL 1969 11 2 1 .846 1st in NFL Capital 0 1 .000 Lost to the Cleveland Browns in Divisional Round
DAL 1970 10 4 0 .714 1st in NFC East 2 1 .667 Lost to the Baltimore Colts in Super Bowl V
DAL 1971 11 3 0 .786 1st in NFC East 3 0 1.000 Super Bowl VI Champions
DAL 1972 10 4 0 .714 2nd in NFC East 1 1 .500 Lost to the Washington Redskins in NFC Championship Game
DAL 1973 10 4 0 .714 1st in NFC East 1 1 .500 Lost to the Minnesota Vikings in NFC Championship Game
DAL 1974 8 6 0 .571 3rd in NFC East - - - -
DAL 1975 10 4 0 .714 2nd in NFC East 2 1 .667 Lost to the Pittsburgh Steelers in Super Bowl X
DAL 1976 11 3 0 .786 1st in NFC East 0 1 .000 Lost to the Los Angeles Rams in Divisional Round
DAL 1977 12 2 0 .857 1st in NFC East 3 0 1.000 Super Bowl XII Champions
DAL 1978 12 4 0 .750 1st in NFC East 2 1 .667 Lost to the Pittsburgh Steelers in Super Bowl XIII
DAL 1979 11 5 0 .688 1st in NFC East 0 1 .000 Lost to the Los Angeles Rams in Divisional Round
DAL 1980 12 4 0 .750 2nd in NFC East 2 1 .667 Lost to the Philadelphia Eagles in NFC Championship Game
DAL 1981 12 4 0 .750 1st in NFC East 1 1 .500 Lost to the San Francisco 49ers in NFC Championship Game
DAL 1982 6 3 0 .667 2nd in NFC 2 1 .667 Lost to the Washington Redskins in NFC Championship Game
DAL 1983 12 4 0 .750 2nd in NFC East 0 1 .000 Lost to the Los Angeles Rams in Wild Card Round
DAL 1984 9 7 0 .563 4th in NFC East - - - -
DAL 1985 10 6 0 .667 1st in NFC East 0 1 .000 Lost to the Los Angeles Rams in Divisional Round
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SF 1981 13 3 0 .812 1st in NFC West 3 0 1.000 Super Bowl XVI Champions.
SF 1982 3 6 0 .333 11th in NFC - - - -
SF 1983 10 6 0 .625 1st in NFC West 1 1 .500 Lost to Washington Redskins in NFC Championship Game.
SF 1984 15 1 0 .938 1st in NFC West 3 0 1.000 Super Bowl XIX Champions.
SF 1985 10 6 0 .625 2nd in NFC West 0 1 .000 Lost to New York Giants in NFC Wild-Card Game.
SF 1986 10 5 1 .656 1st in NFC West 0 1 .000 Lost to New York Giants in NFC Divisional Game.
SF 1987 13 2 0 .867 1st in NFC West 0 1 .000 Lost to Minnesota Vikings in NFC Divisional Game.
SF 1988 10 6 0 .625 1st in NFC West 3 0 1.000 Super Bowl XXIII Champions.
SF 1989 14 2 0 .875 1st in NFC West 3 0 1.000 Super Bowl XXIV Champions.
SF 1990 14 2 0 .875 1st in NFC West 1 1 .500 Lost to New York Giants in NFC Championship Game.
SF 1991 10 6 0 .625 3rd in NFC West - - - -
SF 1992 14 2 0 .875 1st in NFC West 1 1 .500 Lost to Dallas Cowboys in NFC Championship Game.
SF 1993 10 6 0 .625 1st in NFC West 1 1 .500 Lost to Dallas Cowboys in NFC Championship Game.
SF 1994 13 3 0 .813 1st in NFC West 3 0 1.000 Super Bowl XXIX Champions.
SF 1995 11 5 0 .688 1st in NFC West 0 1 .000 Lost to Green Bay Packers in NFC Divisional Game.
SF 1996 12 4 0 .750 2nd in NFC West 1 1 .500 Lost to Green Bay Packers
SF 1997 13 3 0 .813 1st in NFC West 1 1 .500 Lost to Green Bay Packers in NFC Championship Game.
SF 1998 12 4 0 .750 2nd in NFC West 1 1 .500 Lost to Atlanta Falcons in Divisional Playoffs.
NE 2000 5 11 0 .313 4th in AFC East – – – –
NE 2001 11 5 0 .688 1st in AFC East 3 0 1.000 Super Bowl XXXVI Champions
NE 2002 9 7 0 .563 2nd in AFC East – – – –
NE 2003 14 2 0 .875 1st in AFC East 3 0 1.000 Super Bowl XXXVIII Champions
NE 2004 14 2 0 .875 1st in AFC East 3 0 1.000 Super Bowl XXXIX Champions
NE 2005 10 6 0 .625 1st in AFC East 1 1 .500 Lost to Denver Broncos in AFC Divisional Game
NE 2006 12 4 0 .750 1st in AFC East 2 1 .667 Lost to Indianapolis Colts in AFC Championship Game
NE 2007 16 0 0 1.000 1st in AFC East 2 1 .667 Lost to New York Giants in Super Bowl XLII
NE 2008 11 5 0 .688 2nd in AFC East – – – –
NE 2009 10 6 0 .625 1st in AFC East 0 1 .000 Lost to Baltimore Ravens in AFC Wild Card Game
NE 2010 14 2 0 .875 1st in AFC East 0 1 .000 Lost to New York Jets in AFC Divisional Game
NE 2011 13 3 0 .813 1st in AFC East 2 1 .667 Lost to New York Giants in Super Bowl XLVI
NE 2012 12 4 0 .750 1st in AFC East 1 1 .500 Lost to Baltimore in AFC Championship Game
BB - .649 career winning percentage (Tom Landry .607)
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Right, the highest comeback in the NFC Championship game was 13 before yesterday. and the biggest road comeback is at 20 by the Lions...
That was decidedly unfun. Brady had a terrible game, there were questionable decisions, and lots of mistakes. Add some unfortunate luck to it and you have what you saw. Pain is unfortunately part of being a fan, and only one team's fans get to be happy at the end. It takes a perfect storm of talent, opportunity, and luck to win the Super Bowl. Not our year. Good luck to those who still have a rooting interest. Moments like this I'm jealous of casual fans.
And those of you who were hoping for a Harbaugh matchup got your wish. Hope you like the word "HarBowl" - you'll be hearing it a thousand times over the next two weeks.
I'll be rooting for Colin Kaepernick to pull a 2001 Tom Brady, except with much better wheels.
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Biggest haterade coming from someone whose team has been sitting home for a month. Give it a rest already. When all you can do is celebrate another team's loss, it just shows you have nothing of your own to root for (and believe me, I recognize that type of loser syndrome from being a Red Sox fan).
The truth is the standards are ridiculously high for NE, but we've been really luck as fans. Extremely lucky. We'll be back next year.
No one uses haterade anymore since like 2005. You are being bitter now after thinking your team is invincible and looking down at the rest of the league all year.
You haven't won in 8 years but the attitude of your fan base and your coach is like you've won 8 years in a row that's why so many fans across the country take joy in seeing them lose. If you thinking the only one you're sadly mistaken
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Wow great game by the 49ers! I was pretty nervous after going down 17-0 but the Falcons can't run the ball so I knew they had trouble holding leads. LIke it was said already in this thread, that catch that Harbaugh challenged I didn't think was a catch, but whatever.......it all worked out.
I'm sure my work isn't going to be happy I'll be going to New Orleans for the Super Bowl and then the following week to Boston for the Lakers/Celtics game
I'm sure my work isn't going to be happy I'll be going to New Orleans for the Super Bowl and then the following week to Boston for the Lakers/Celtics game
It's one thing to root against a team - it's another thing to start insulting every. single. fan of the team. Those of us who are true fans know how much losses like that suck - and to rub it in the face of someone else going through it is just poor form - and a recipe for bad karma.
Queen of Spades (and Zioxide) have never been jerks and they've never talked trash in here. They've defended and talked about their team as everyone else has. Are there obnoxious Patriot fans? Yes. Just as there are obnoxious fans of every other team, but Queen hasn't been one of them.
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I think the hate against the Patriots is just silly. They are a team and they play well (see Coach BB stats in my previous post above). The fans are the truly annoying ones in too many cases. You hit it on the head when you say:
...You haven't won in 8 years but the attitude of your fan base and your coach is like you've won 8 years in a row...
I think on some level Patriot fans know that Tom Brady doesn't have the mental ability anymore to close the deal even though his regular season stats shows that he still has a great passing game and throws very, very few interceptions. His killer instinct of who he was in his 20s, even with limited weapons in terms of his fellow offensive players, is something of legend. He has so much more to work with now, and has that accurate passer rating in his later career in his 30s but what must be the case is that he is missing the mental game. I don't care if he could throw for 600 yards in a game and throw 6 touchdowns, it's clear he's not the same gritty quarterback he was in his 20s who had the arm and the mindset clicking at the same time.
That being said, bigjnyc, Pats fans do have the right to parade the young Tom Brady who is 3 for 3 in AFC Championship games and 3 for 3 in Super Bowls in the very short time period of just four years. If they are being cocky in the sense of being an 8 time winner, the feeling is justified that they have bragging rights from what that team did back then which wasn't really all that long ago. But ask yourself this, besides Dallas, who is the last team in the NFL who has won three championships in four years or three-peated in either the Super Bowl, or previous AFL or NFL championships? (I think with this in context, there's no mystery to the Pats fans bravado). The Packers of nearly 50 years ago are the only ones besides NE and Dallas. It's totally understandable to be a raging fan of the Patriots but at the same time to think they have all the cylinders firing now in Tom Brady's 30s (like they did 2001-2005 in Tom Brady's 20s) is sadly delusional.
Please fans (NE or otherwise), look at the outcomes and take Brady for what he is, a highly rated NFL passer, but now more like Rivers and Romo, who can't win the big ones, than what he once achieved and find out what it is that is making him lack that mental factor. Tom Brady in his 20s would have needed only one or two chances to close that game out, but he has had many chances to do so yesterday and like the previous two Super Bowls he played in, there's something he is lacking. It's amazing to watch a Rivers or Romo, who have similarly high career passer ratings, and usually when it comes to crunch time and win the big ones, they falter and it's painful to see. Brady has spent many years being on the winning side of the most important games and now quite a few years on the losing side so at least he knows what it feels like and hopefully can adjust before he retires. Brett Favre adjusted late in career and found a good set of big rally wins but it was too little too late for him. However, John Elway did the same mental adjustment and it paid off big late in career and he ended it all with a Super Bowl win. Which path will Tom Brady take in the next year or years left in his NFL career?
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Where did I say my team was invincible? And no, I haven't ever looked down on the rest of the league. I think you're confusing your own bitterness and anger about the Patriots with something I've said. And why again am I a jerk? Simply because I root for the Patriots? So I'm not allowed to root for the team from the place where I was born and raised?
And again, I don't talk trash when we win. In fact, with rare exception, I try not to talk trash at all or rub it in other fan's faces. Why? Because it's a) juvenile, and b) not like I played or coached any of the games, and c) not how I'd want to be treated in the reverse situation. Considering the fact that your team has been skiing for weeks, you could tone it down a bit.
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This honestly made me laugh. You're honestly saying that Tom Brady is....is like Philip Rivers and Tony Romo? So, I'd imagine, you're also saying Peyton Manning is? And Eli Manning? And every other QB who has failed to take their team to a SB? I mean come on. I think the rationality in this thread has gone out the window.
And thanks, Moyank24. Always enjoy discussing sports with you.
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I don't agree. The past is the past and 8 years is a long time. I'm not pointing out anyone on this forum (QoS and Zioxide have been more than decent) but those cocky Patriots fan realize the current situation, they're no longer the team that won 3 in 4, they're becoming the team who makes conference championship games, who makes Super Bowls only to lose. When I think of that, I think the Bills, I think of the New Jersey Nets. I think of the Colts with Manning.
Now here's the thing that annoys me about Patriots fans in general. They'll say, well what other team can say they made the playoffs that many times? Made the Conf. Championship games that many times? How about the Super Bowl? True, not many but guess what? I'm holding the Patriots to a higher standard not because they consistently win, it's because the fans set that standard. When the Patriots were winning 3 in 4, those same fans didn't give a **** that the Colts with Manning were making the playoffs on a consistent basis, they loved to point out that Manning "choked" again (more on that later) and it didn't matter unless you win the Super Bowl.
I've been reading game analysis' and reading fan comments and boy are there a lot of excuses for Tom Brady. A LOT. So let me get this straight, Tom Brady didn't choke? Wait, what? I recall Peyton being labelled a choker because he couldn't perform in the playoffs despite the non-exsistent defense on those Colts teams. But why isn't Brady being called a choker the last 8 years and especially after last night when he was only able to put up 13 points? Why? because he won 3 in 4 once upon a time?
Those Patriots fan who love to call out the 49ers for living in the past are slowly becoming the same. In a few years when Brady and Belichick are gone and the Patriots become mediocre or even worse, they'll bring up the past "well remember when we won 3 in 4? What has your team done?".
Good points.
Even though Peyton Manning choked this year, the title of choking belongs to Tom Brady and he has added yesterday's puzzling loss onto his two Super Bowl losses. Had the Pats lost against somebody else, it wouldn't be so bad but the press was calling Ravens-Pats matchup yesterday as some sort of "rematch" as if this had been boxing. Hey Pacqauio lost his "rematch", and just once and he may never be able to live it down. Pats have to do something next year, if even to go to AFC game and win it.